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Quote:You're not missing a thing. If you're feeling bored, keep a list of the names that KY keeps pimping and look back on them in a couple years.


The list will be similar to this one.

Man you really have it out for KY

Quote:Pretty much. As I explained many pages ago guys like Whitman for the Seahawks and Mosqueda for the Packers make lists of guys that passed through the athletic filters they have observed the teams taking...and sure enough darn near every player drafted for years has passed those filters.

Dare to share those filters with the rest of us?

Quote:Man you really have it out for KY

It's a really weird fetish. It's even weirder because almost none of what he has said is true. Shrug, I haven't seen a thing he has typed in 2017 (except for the unfortunate occasional quote like you did) so whatever the troll wants to do is fine. 

Quote:Dare to share those filters with the rest of us?

Follow them. They'll share who passes them as they dig into the numbers.

Quote:Man you really have it out for KY

It just so happens that because of the time of year it is, he has been posting more trash than usual and I see some of the same jag bashers as always falling for his schtick. I just can't stand ignorance and stupidity.

Quote:It's a really weird fetish. It's even weirder because almost none of what he has said is true. Shrug, I haven't seen a thing he has typed in 2017 (except for the unfortunate occasional quote like you did) so whatever the troll wants to do is fine.

Keep telling yourself that. It's funny that you think I can't tell otherwise.

Quote:Follow them. They'll share who passes them as they dig into the numbers.

I don't do twitter.

The TwitterScouts^TM are fun to watch, all the rationalizing when they get it wrong and when they fall too hard for QBs (and they always do.)

Quote:Are we still writing off Mixon in the 4th because he's a douche?

 

 

4th round? I was thinking we'd probably have to get at #35.


 

If Mixon is there is round three, I wouldn't hesitate to draft him.

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If Mixon is there is round three, I wouldn't hesitate to draft him.

I agree. 

Quote:I honest to god do not understand people's facination here with Adams. A lot of you are the same people who swore up and down Jabrill Peppers was top 5 pick too when I said he wasn't even a top 15 player. Adams is a freaking safety, and not even one of the best safety prospects in the past decade. The want for him here is insane.

 


 

I've said this before, but it's worth repeating...


 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">Jamal Adams is Donovin Darious with ball skills to boot.


 

Think about that.


 

Where you around when Double D was playing? If not, you probably won't quite understand just what he did for our defense. There was a reason we franchised him over and over again, and he didn't even make the big plays like Adams is known for until those later years when he was being franchised while working out with a JUGS machine. I truly believe DD is the Jaguars most underrated defensive player ever.

Quote:Yeah. If you read my previous posts you'll find plenty of evidence of me saying that the draft for me is majorly based on watching a player actually play. You'll see me say that the combine and measurements are a small percentage of your research. You'll also see me say that no matter how well prepared you are, it's still a crap shoot.


But if you want to think it's just a witch hunt against the numbers.... Take a look at the guys that KY was slamming his fists for... Geno, teddy, Vic Beasley are the only names that people really remember. Why? Because the players he falls in love with, he falls in love based on their spider charts and their sparq ratings. Most of the guys that are drafted higher based on their combines and charts go nowhere and flame out.


Beasley is honestly the best of the bunch and he's only has one good season so far. Sure there are exceptions, but for me, by rule, the game film is the most important. The combine is a small fraction.


I will say the combine helps expose things like Allen's arthritis. (Not to be confused with 2 shoulder surgeries with the rumor of a third secret surgery.) But to weigh it as highly as people are doing, talking about fournettes poor vert impacting him heavily? No. Get out of here with that. It's fantasy.


Edit: I'll also add that the combine is great for small school players that no one has heard of. Guys that you might not have film on. Guys that come over from other sports or other countries. Those are the type of guys where I would weigh the combine and pro days more heavily.

most of the athletic numbers arent that important for QBs so im not gonna buy into the idea that KY bought into those qbs because of their sparq numbers unless you have the receipts. No one is denying that film is the most important or that its not important, its just that you guys grab your pitchforks at the first sight of any measurable chart for no reason. Its just a number to go along with what you already see on tape. Just like when you see Fournette not getting up to speed until the second level because he isnt explosive and then he bombs on the drill that measures explosiveness, its just a correlation of measurables and tape. Its not a fantasy lol. I have no clue why all this upsets you guys so much. Its not that serious.

Quote:most of the athletic numbers arent that important for QBs so im not gonna buy into the idea that KY bought into those qbs because of their sparq numbers unless you have the receipts. No one is denying that film is the most important or that its not important, its just that you guys grab your pitchforks at the first sight of any measurable chart for no reason. Its just a number to go along with what you already see on tape. Just like when you see Fournette not getting up to speed until the second level because he isnt explosive and then he bombs on the drill that measures explosiveness, its just a correlation of measurables and tape. Its not a fantasy lol. I have no clue why all this upsets you guys so much. Its not that serious.

Wait, he...I...

 

I'm actually at a loss of words for how dumb someone has to be to think I like a QB because of SPARQ or combine measurables. 

 

Or how saying Geno was the best of a bad class and he should be the pick only if Dave deems him a franchise QB is slamming fists...

 

My sanity really needs quotes for guys to be blocked too lol.

Quote:most of the athletic numbers arent that important for QBs so im not gonna buy into the idea that KY bought into those qbs because of their sparq numbers unless you have the receipts. No one is denying that film is the most important or that its not important, its just that you guys grab your pitchforks at the first sight of any measurable chart for no reason. Its just a number to go along with what you already see on tape. Just like when you see Fournette not getting up to speed until the second level because he isnt explosive and then he bombs on the drill that measures explosiveness, its just a correlation of measurables and tape. Its not a fantasy lol. I have no clue why all this upsets you guys so much. Its not that serious.

The QBs weren't an example of guys he likes because of their sparq numbers. They were just examples of the most memorable guys he did like.


Pointing out that the rest of them are basically nobodies.

Quote:The QBs weren't an example of guys he likes because of their sparq numbers. They were just examples of the most memorable guys he did like.


Pointing out that the rest of them are basically nobodies.

everyones pre draft wishlists have nobodies, of the hundreds of guys that are drafted most of them end up as nobodies so thats not much of a critique.

Quote:everyones pre draft wishlists have nobodies, of the hundreds of guys that are drafted most of them end up as nobodies so thats not much of a critique.

If you say so man. It is what it is.

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So the memorable list of 3 guys I like are a guy I actually didn't like that much, a guy who was looking great going into year 2 before suffering a freak injury, and the guy who led the NFL in sacks and forced fumbles in his 2nd year.

 

Sounds like I have been got. 

Has there been any info about interviews with us?

Quote:Has there been any info about interviews with us?

I don't think they're allowed to schedule meetings with teams yet (officially) kinda like Suhe a couple years ago and then they got busted