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His faith was sealed since the end of the season. In moments like this, try to remember the Clayton report of people shying away. Can't be overlooked. The only way quality coaches choose here was with players and security. Free agency is a ways away and we are coming off back to back poor seasons. Only people with familiarity with the situation may be interested. Very few will choose money one year over money and job security

This is just the time he was an OC, not counting stops where he was just the QB coach.

 

2006: St. Louis, 10th in points scored with Bulger, Jackson, Holt, Bruce, Klopfenstein

2007: St. Louis, 28th in points scored with Bulger(missed 6 games)/Frerotte/Berlin, Jackson(missed 6 games), Holt, Bruce,  Klopfenstein

2009: Tampa Bay, 30th in points scored with Freeman®, Cadillac, Antonio Bryant/Sroughter/Stovall, Winslow Jr.

2010: Tampa Bay, 20th in points scored with Freeman, Blount, M. Williams, Winslow Jr

2011: Tampa Bay, 27th in points scored with Freeman, Blount, M. Williams, Winslow Jr

2014: Oakland, 31st in points scored with Carr, Murray/DMC, J. Jones, Holmes, Rivera

 

Seeing how most believe the most important thing is whether Blake Bortles improves or not I think it's worth noting that in his work with young QB's Olson hasn't been bad. 

 

Josh Freeman's first three years in the league with Olson as OC

 

2009: Pct. 54.5 Yds 1,855 Avg 6.4 TD 10 INT 18

2010: Pct. 61.4 Yds 3,451 Avg 7.28 TD 25 INT 6

2011: Pct. 62.8 Yds 3,592 Avg 6.52 TD 16 INT 22

 

Derek Carr's rookie season 

 

Pct. 58.1 Yds 3,270 Avg 5.5 TD 21 INT 12

 

Obviously there is a lot of things that go into a teams success offensively so take from this whatever you want. Unlike many people here I don't pretend to know whether Olson will work out or not but I just wanted to provide some additional information to the discussion. 

Verdict is already in on this dood. He's hot dumpster juice biker gang trash

There can be no waiting and no stats. We must rush to judgment and assume this will be a failure because we didn't sign the guy Alfie said we wanted.


That's right, the uber fat insurance salesmen didn't guess correctly, and now we must all assume the Jags are doomed because they didn't hire Adam Gase: a one time, 37 year old OC, someone who is riding a wave built by Peyton Mannings accomplishments.


Gus sealed his fate. We only hire losers. Greg Olson doesn't even sound like Adam Gase. BecauseJaguars!


You guys are too easy.

Quote:There can be no waiting and no stats. We must rush to judgment and assume this will be a failure because we didn't sign the guy Alfie said we wanted.


That's right, the uber fat insurance salesmen didn't guess correctly, and now we must all assume the Jags are doomed because they didn't hire Adam Gase: a one time, 37 year old OC, someone who is riding a wave built by Peyton Mannings accomplishments.


Gus sealed his fate. We only hire losers. Greg Olson doesn't even sound like Adam Gase. BecauseJaguars!


You guys are too easy.

 

Yeah. That's it. That's why we hate Olson. Because of Alfie. Because everybody on this board listens to Alfie. He's definitely not a walking joke. Otherwise we'd be falling over ourselves to praise the hiring of Greg fricking Olson. 

Lol I'm feeling some solidarity tonight

Quote:How many times does Caldwell have to say we are going to be big spenders before you stop whining?

 

This is kind of exciting as far as off season moves go.

 

I look forward to being even more excited when the off season "big spending" starts to rev up.

Quote:Somebody listed all the jobs he had and the offense's rank while he was the coach...


He coached for the Bucs, Rams, and Raiders.... His offenses ranked on average in the low 20s... Consider that he coached the Bucs, Rams, and Raiders---them there are some pretty darn good stats!!!


I mean, the Bucs, Rams, and Raiders!!! It's not like he was coaching teams with tons of talent and winning cultures...

Low 20's!?! Shoot I'd take an offense ranked in the low 20's next year. That would be our best offense of the decade!!!

Quote:If NFL.com reports it, you can bet it's accurate.

What did NFL.com report, exactly?
 

Quote:NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported on Tuesday night that the Jaguars are hiring Olson to run their offense, per a team source.

I mean, it looks likely to me, but at the moment all that's being reported is Rapoport's report, which we already know to have been jumping the gun.

So yeah, he's probably the new OC, but I'm not 100% sure until I see it from the team, or at least something that isn't from a source we already know to be somewhat inaccurate.

Quote:

 

"We really felt like Greg was the best fit culturally here. We share a lot of the same philosophies on offense."

 

We missed some opportunities out there today, but I did see some good things.

Quote:Apparently I'm in the minority on this one.  But I just have to rely on the fact that the 1 major positive for the guy is how he developed David Carr.

Greg Olson didn't develop David Carr. You're getting him mixed up with Mary-Kate Olson (the other Olson twin...).

Quote:Low 20's!?! Shoot I'd take an offense ranked in the low 20's next year. That would be our best offense of the decade!!!

If 2010 counts as this decade, that is not true.

Quote:I would've even taken a newbie like Lynn or Wilson over Olson. At least they have a chance at not being terrible. And it's not like Olson has just been bad once. He's had shot after shot and been terrible everywhere. 

 

A position coach from a winning culture would be preferable to a experienced OC with a track record of failure.

Hard to get excited about this hire.  His offensive rankings are less then desirable but here is the list of starting QB's he had:

 

Joey Harrington

Marc Bulger

Jeff Garcia

Byron Leftwich

Josh Freeman

Matt Flynn

Derek Carr

 

Bulger and Freeman had career years with him.   Bulger - 24 tds/8 ints & Freeman - 25 tds/6 ints.   Both also seemed to regress the following year.  Gabbert had his best year with him as QB coach. 

 

He seems like a pretty good QB coach, it's tough to say he's going to be a good coordinator from his track record but with the offenses he was working with I'm not sure who would be successful.

 

It's mostly players not plays, this offense and regime will go the way that Bortles does.    

I thought I also heard that part of the reason Marrone left was the drafting up there (EJ and trading a ton to get one player)...also he wanted his assistants to get extensions and was reportedly told no...so if this is true he walked away from a team that was, in his opinion as the HC, making bad draft decisions and wouldn't extend his assistants...I can't say that I blame him.

Quote:This move is mindbogglingly ridiculous. Unfortunately, the apologists like FBT are crazy enough to defend this hire. It's almost like this team has a masochism with losing and bad teams. Reminds me somewhat of the final days of Nazi Germany and the Fall of Berlin...

 

I didn't know much about him (remember him being with the Jags briefly but he was the QB coach, for Gabbert, so I wasn't going to hold that against him).  Looking at what he's done as an OC in the NFL, he certainly looks like an upgrade over Fisch statistically.  He had some good offenses (his first year in St. Louis, they were ranked 3rd), but his team's offensive rankings are inconsistent (his second year they had fallen to 24th).  So I agree he is a risky hire for a team that needs to get the offense in gear.  As usual though, people on this forum are overreacting.  It's the players that ultimately will make the team successful or not.  If Bortles and the OL progress, our offense ranking will improve no matter who the coordinator is.

I'm not "happy" with it. But let's look at this.


You guys wanted a guy with experience, check.


Carr looked pretty good, he made Freeman look good, Tampa went 10-6, pretty much all on the offense that year.


Marrone will help our OL. There's no way he can't. Detroit made the playoffs with the 22nd ranked offense. Granted our defense isn't that good, but if our offense was around there we would have won 4-5 more games. Especially with less sacks.


I wanted Gase. But looking at this objectively. Why hasn't he been hired anywhere? I'm starting to think he was in fact a product of Peyton and just following Fox. Again I'm not excited about the Olson hire. But he's better than Fisch and has been around a while. There's a reason he's been consistently employed.

I'm reserving judgement until the season actually starts and we see what we've got to work with after FA and the draft.  No sense getting all worked up over nothing.  

 

Keep expectations realistic - I am hoping for 4 wins next year.  I know some of you will laugh as that is probably expecting a bit much, but hey, you never know - we may get lucky a few times. 

Omg. Smh.

In the words of a Great American.... R-E-L-A-X

 

Gus did not rush to judgment in hiring Marrone and Olson, in fact he took his sweet time in making these selections.

 

What Gus and the Jags got was the best that was AVAILABLE in the mind of Gus Bradley.

 

Lastly, remember the old saying, PLAYERS NOT COACHES WIN FOOTBALL GAMES!

 

We have all been accustomed to a DISFUNCTIONAL FRONT OFFICE that did not KNOW how to selection talent to fill a roster.

 

So if the TALENT is not there then the TALENT will not be evident on the field and in terms of Wins and Losses.

 

I believe that Dave Caldwell KNOWS how to identify TALENT and I believe that Gus Bradley KNOWS how to develop DEFENSIVE Football Players.

 

Gus brought in a TEAM of OFFENSIVE MINDED GUYS to help in the area he is lacking.

 

In Doug Marrone, the Jags have a TOUGH GUY that will help the Jags to JUMP-START a RUNNING GAME and help establish PASS PROTECTION for Blake Bortles.

 

In Greg Olson, the Jags got their QB Guru, whose JOB is to DEVELOP Blake Bortles into a Franchise QB.

 

So Marrone's job compliments Olson's job and together their JOB is to DEVELOP an OFFENSE comparable to the JOB that GUS has done with the Jags DEFENSE.

 

All these two gentlemen have to do is to DEVELOP an OFFENSE that can score points in the 20's and the Jags can will 7 to 9 games next season.

 

The Jags DEFENSE will keep them in most games, but the OFFENSE has to score points, which means Blake Bortles needs to throw touchdowns, cut down on turnovers and handoff to a Running Game that is tailored to compliment his passing game.

 

So AGAIN... R-E-L-A-X

 

HELP IS ON THE WAY because the NEXT PHASE of the PROCESS involves SECURING MORE TALENT in FREE AGENCY and the DRAFT.