Quote:*The Jags offered the OC position to both Gase and Trestman. Both turned it down*
Us armchair GMs will never know what happened behind those closed doors.
It's too bad about Trestman... But I think we may have dodged a bullet with Gase anyways...
Any word on who the QB coach will be?
Quote:I see these same fools crying 8 months from now
Actually... That's not true.
I'm all for letting this team (or this board) know when they do something dumb. I'm not sold on Bradley because... well... he's only won 7 games. But I've been able to watch him for 32 games. Olson hasn't done anything but take a pen and sign a contract.... Bashing him now doesn't make sense.
Disagree with the hire? Sure! Saying the world is going to end because of it? Probably not
If any of the teams Olson coached actually had a lick of talent and the offense sucked I might be concerned unfortunately none of them did outside of 2006 Rams and the 2010 Bucs had anybody noteworthy on the offensive side. I think there is a tendency to get caught up in coaching names. Who was Belichek before Brady and the Patriots?
Quote:Breaking News: Olson has a deep connection with Ben and Jerry's that heavily swayed Gus decision.
Are you trying to look like a moron? Because you're doing a GREAT job.
Quote:Are you trying to look like a moron? Because you're doing a GREAT job.
He doesn't have to
try.
I will be pleasantly surprised if Greg Olson works out well here; however, my current impression is that the hire was based more on availability than on suitability. I can see where he has done some good work with developing quarterbacks, but his track record as an OC is just awful.
All things being equal (which they rarely are...) I almost think it would have been wiser to keep Fisch and hire Olson as a quarterback coach if we really wanted him; but that boat has sailed, so no point pondering it now.
Olsons track record doesn't look that formidable. In fact it's just not good. So fans not liking the hire is understandable. This team needs a blood transfusion, not a flu shot.
But, it's obvious it is what it is. This is a huge year for the team. Flounder again with uninspired football and don't win considerably more games, then I'm sure the Gus Bus will be sold at auction
We have to put up with the Colts..again...for the division. The team has to improve more than marginally.
On a rebuild, losing more games in the second year isn't a good sign.
Let's not forget the Marrone hiring. He could be a difference maker...unless he and Gus clash.
For the opimists .... Do you think the team wins 8 games next year?
In the 3rd year of the " new era".... That's a minimum.
Track record for an OC is almost meaningless, because it can pretty much be entirely summed up by "Who was his QB"? Josh McDaniels was an up and coming offensive genius when he coached Tom Brady. Then went to Denver and became an offensive dullard when he had to coach Kyle Orton and Tebow. Then magically rediscovered his genius status when he went back to New England and coached Brady again. Just like Charlies Weis went from offensive genius to washed up has been just about the time he stopped coaching Tom Brady. Funny how that works.
A lot of teams have in essence co-coordinator duties between a "running game coordinator" and "passing game coordinator" in weekly gameplanning and preperation, and the passing game coordinator usually handles playcalling duties because it's the most complexity and involvement. Sounds like the Jags will have a similar split in duties between Marrone and Olson.
I watched a few raiders games and the one thing i can say is He is an improvement on fisch. he did not call a run up the middle when it was 3 down and 20. He took shots and threw the ball to make first downs. He just didnt have the weapons to make it happen. I think if he can get BB5 going and the recievers get better in their second year we could have a very explosive offense.
Quote:Are you trying to look like a moron? Because you're doing a GREAT job.
Mama said he don't have what they call the social skills.
Quote:I watched a few raiders games and the one thing i can say is He is an improvement on fisch. he did not call a run up the middle when it was 3 down and 20. He took shots and threw the ball to make first downs. He just didnt have the weapons to make it happen. I think if he can get BB5 going and the recievers get better in their second year we could have a very explosive offense.
The only year he had a decent QB, he had a top 10 offense. I mean seriously, the man has had very little talent to work with over the years.
I wonder if the Jaguars wanted the OC to commit to more than one year in their contract in order to ensure a steady path for Bortles.
Quote:I wonder if the Jaguars wanted the OC to commit to more than one year in their contract in order to ensure a steady path for Bortles.
i was thinking that as well
In 2004 he became an OC for the first time and lead the Detroit Lions to the 24th ranked offense, followed that up in 2005 with the 28th ranked offense before being let go. in 2006 he was hired as the OC for the St Louis Rams and led them to the 10th ranked offense only to drop to the 28th ranked offense the year after. in 2008 he went on to become the OC in Tampa leading them to the 19th ranked offense in 2008, 30th in 2009, 20th in 2010 and 16th in 2011. After 2011 he came in to jacksonville as our QB Coach/asst headcoach and didn't really make much of an impact, left the following year to Oakland where he lead the Raiders to the 24th ranked offense in 2013 and the 31st ranked offense in 2014.
Not exactly an impressive resume.
Quote:In 2004 he became an OC for the first time and lead the Detroit Lions to the 24th ranked offense, followed that up in 2005 with the 28th ranked offense before being let go. in 2006 he was hired as the OC for the St Louis Rams and led them to the 10th ranked offense only to drop to the 28th ranked offense the year after. in 2008 he went on to become the OC in Tampa leading them to the 19th ranked offense in 2008, 30th in 2009, 20th in 2010 and 16th in 2011. After 2011 he came in to jacksonville as our QB Coach/asst headcoach and didn't really make much of an impact, left the following year to Oakland where he lead the Raiders to the 24th ranked offense in 2013 and the 31st ranked offense in 2014.
Not exactly an impressive resume.
Cool story, bro.
Quote:In 2004 he became an OC for the first time and lead the Detroit Lions to the 24th ranked offense, followed that up in 2005 with the 28th ranked offense before being let go. in 2006 he was hired as the OC for the St Louis Rams and led them to the 10th ranked offense only to drop to the 28th ranked offense the year after. in 2008 he went on to become the OC in Tampa leading them to the 19th ranked offense in 2008, 30th in 2009, 20th in 2010 and 16th in 2011. After 2011 he came in to jacksonville as our QB Coach/asst headcoach and didn't really make much of an impact, left the following year to Oakland where he lead the Raiders to the 24th ranked offense in 2013 and the 31st ranked offense in 2014.
Not exactly an impressive resume.
yeah it isnt the most impressive hire or resume, but its what weve got. trestman turned down the job, gase did too..... wasnt much else out there. the jaguars have a ways to go.
Curious what rosters were like on all of those teams. All of them sound like poor talent on offense IIRC.
Not a great resume.
but.
there are so many things that affect those numbers that are out of his control...
let's wait and see...
I have a feeling our offense can be much improved next year