Josh Allen always deserved a nice new contract offer.
It's just now he deserves a bigger one.
(11-30-2023, 09:21 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Josh Allen always deserved a nice new contract offer.
It's just now he deserves a bigger one.
Right. Before this year he was on track for a great contract from us or someone else. For those that had watched him four years, he has been a great player since he got here, but this year he's found his pass rushing groove. How he's on track for a massive contract, hopefully from us.
Lol @ NYC dismantling that guy brick by brick
(11-30-2023, 05:03 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2023, 12:03 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]It was worse actually. He said 10-15 million and lots of other, ummm, well, he said things.
https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...pid1573013
New Information requires new analysis.
I'm pretty sure I can find quotes from you that are just as incorrect. I'm sorry that I have an open mind, I'm sorry if that offends you.
Thing is, the info isn't new. Not like he ate some power pill like pac man and suddenly could get to the QB. He is who he's always been. Pass coverage has improved, the team plays with leads more often, and Walker's development on the other side have helped improve his stat sheet, but Josh is doing what he's done his whole time here.
It's ok to say you wanted to sneak a cheap offer to see if he stays for the promise of a ring or three, or that you underestimated the market, or his ability to put stats on paper. It looks a lot better than trying to fabricate some fallacy that this was some overnight revelation. Be better than that.
(11-30-2023, 05:15 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2023, 05:03 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]New Information requires new analysis.
I'm pretty sure I can find quotes from you that are just as incorrect. I'm sorry that I have an open mind, I'm sorry if that offends you.
In the words of my generation.
Nahhh deadass bro tripping fr ong
...your generation suffered from strokes often?
(11-30-2023, 09:21 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Josh Allen always deserved a nice new contract offer.
It's just now he deserves a bigger one.
bimbo!
Er, I mean Bingo!
"deserves" is the key. He has earned every dime of the deal he gets. No trepidation about any falloff once the check clears.
(12-01-2023, 08:37 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2023, 05:03 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]New Information requires new analysis.
I'm pretty sure I can find quotes from you that are just as incorrect. I'm sorry that I have an open mind, I'm sorry if that offends you.
Thing is, the info isn't new. Not like he ate some power pill like pac man and suddenly could get to the QB. He is who he's always been. Pass coverage has improved, the team plays with leads more often, and Walker's development on the other side have helped improve his stat sheet, but Josh is doing what he's done his whole time here.
It's ok to say you wanted to sneak a cheap offer to see if he stays for the promise of a ring or three, or that you underestimated the market, or his ability to put stats on paper. It looks a lot better than trying to fabricate some fallacy that this was some overnight revelation. Be better than that.
Pretty soon he'll have a sig that says "Since week 9 Josh Allen has proven that he's blah blah blah."
(12-01-2023, 11:10 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2023, 08:37 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]Thing is, the info isn't new. Not like he ate some power pill like pac man and suddenly could get to the QB. He is who he's always been. Pass coverage has improved, the team plays with leads more often, and Walker's development on the other side have helped improve his stat sheet, but Josh is doing what he's done his whole time here.
It's ok to say you wanted to sneak a cheap offer to see if he stays for the promise of a ring or three, or that you underestimated the market, or his ability to put stats on paper. It looks a lot better than trying to fabricate some fallacy that this was some overnight revelation. Be better than that.
Pretty soon he'll have a sig that says "Since week 9 Josh Allen has proven that he's blah blah blah."
Dude, it's been a discussion since his rookie season that Allen's play isn't consistent. He'll have a monster game and then be invisible the next couple weeks. That's been a real thing with him. Anyone that says otherwise is lying. With that said, I hope we can make him an offer that he'll accept. He's worth paying top 5 money, especially when teamed up with Walker. But the concern that he'll get his bag and then become inconsistent again is real and valid.
I always notice that you comment on my posts but really have nothing to contribute but some lame insult to me. Like bro, relax. First, I shouldn't take up so much of your time. Second,
Trolling, much like spamming the board will not be tolerated. If a user's behavior is determined to be trolling in nature, posting privileges can be suspended.
(12-03-2023, 12:01 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2023, 11:10 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty soon he'll have a sig that says "Since week 9 Josh Allen has proven that he's blah blah blah."
Dude, it's been a discussion since his rookie season that Allen's play isn't consistent. He'll have a monster game and then be invisible the next couple weeks. That's been a real thing with him. Anyone that says otherwise is lying. With that said, I hope we can make him an offer that he'll accept. He's worth paying top 5 money, especially when teamed up with Walker. But the concern that he'll get his bag and then become inconsistent again is real and valid.
I always notice that you comment on my posts but really have nothing to contribute but some lame insult to me. Like bro, relax. First, I shouldn't take up so much of your time. Second, Trolling, much like spamming the board will not be tolerated. If a user's behavior is determined to be trolling in nature, posting privileges can be suspended.
Maybe to those that just look at sack numbers.
He has ALWAYS consistently been good against the run and pressured the QB. He’s finishing now.
Some morons attribute it to a contract year. It doesn’t dawn on them since mid year last year he’s been on. Coincidence the team is competitive and Travon has been getting push on the other side?
(12-03-2023, 12:01 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (12-01-2023, 11:10 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty soon he'll have a sig that says "Since week 9 Josh Allen has proven that he's blah blah blah."
Dude, it's been a discussion since his rookie season that Allen's play isn't consistent. He'll have a monster game and then be invisible the next couple weeks. That's been a real thing with him. Anyone that says otherwise is lying. With that said, I hope we can make him an offer that he'll accept. He's worth paying top 5 money, especially when teamed up with Walker. But the concern that he'll get his bag and then become inconsistent again is real and valid.
I always notice that you comment on my posts but really have nothing to contribute but some lame insult to me. Like bro, relax. First, I shouldn't take up so much of your time. Second, Trolling, much like spamming the board will not be tolerated. If a user's behavior is determined to be trolling in nature, posting privileges can be suspended.
Lighten up. You've been here long enough to get the joke.
We all poke fun at each other. When you drop a bad taek (of which 10-15M offer certainly was), you gotta expect a few jabs your way. Roll with em, kinda like the guy who started the week 9 stuff did.
On the topic, I still think your attempted analysis is way off base. You fail to acknowledge any of the so-called support that led to Allen's prior inconsistency; for several years, he was playing opposite Chaisson, and got negligible help in drawing focus from opposing linemen. He's never been asked to solely rush the passer like some other of the stat sheet heroes are. I don't see how you look at the present makeup of the team and say that the only change being his payroll that you would expect his talent, effort or character to change. He's been on some piss poor defenses and asked to carry the brunt of the load, and not once did he pout, demand a bag, or seek a ticket to greener pasture. The inconsistency, in my mind, is a symptom of the group that surrounded him in the past, not a result in him cherrry picking which teams were going to be best yields for his stat sheet, or conservation of effort to ensure he can chase a payday elsewhere when the rookie deal runs out.
If you've got concern that he changes who he is (and has been) once the check clears, I question whether you've been paying attention to him over the years.
The only good player on our defense last night.
Can the team afford Trevor and Allen and be able to dip into free agency enough to fix the lines?? No, I don’t think the draft alone will be enough, especially with Baalke doing the drafting.
Sorry, but this is more about the cap than Allen.
Fix the lines!
(12-06-2023, 10:32 PM)wg171 Wrote: [ -> ]Can the team afford Trevor and Allen and be able to dip into free agency enough to fix the lines?? No, I don’t think the draft alone will be enough, especially with Baalke doing the drafting.
Sorry, but this is more about the cap than Allen.
Fix the lines!
Josh Allen IS the d-line lol...
Not going to find, arguably, any better on that side than Josh without ponying up the same amount of money if you want to fix the line thru FA.
We need to pay him 100%.
(12-07-2023, 06:33 AM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ] (12-06-2023, 10:32 PM)wg171 Wrote: [ -> ]Can the team afford Trevor and Allen and be able to dip into free agency enough to fix the lines?? No, I don’t think the draft alone will be enough, especially with Baalke doing the drafting.
Sorry, but this is more about the cap than Allen.
Fix the lines!
Josh Allen IS the d-line lol...
Not going to find, arguably, any better on that side than Josh without ponying up the same amount of money if you want to fix the line thru FA.
We need to pay him 100%.
For sure, the thought of not paying him and trying to buy 2-3 replacements is asinine. Pay him, draft a couple DTs. Him and Walker have the edges set right now. The entire draft should be OL and DL. Odds are you hit on one or two
Josh Allen gets paid, then disappears. It’s a nagging suspicion I can’t shake. #jagstrauma
(12-07-2023, 09:29 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Josh Allen gets paid, then disappears. It’s a nagging suspicion I can’t shake. #jagstrauma
I don't worry about that at all, just that we can keep enough around him to let him work. He's the antithesis of Who Douglas, and a man of upstanding character. I think he's going to be at the top of the League for the next 5 years.
He'll be fine post big payout. I think if they can fix this damn offensive line it would allow Lawrence to take another step up in the right direction. We should be playing with more leads early in these games. Makes it easier for Allen and everybody else to get after the QB.
