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(01-03-2024, 09:36 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-03-2024, 08:36 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I brought up a number of players deals, not just Crosbys.  I brought up Sweat who was the latest to sign and who has had a similar career to Allen.  Crosby isn't outperforming his deal, 23.5 mil per is a good deal for both sides.  Garrett is 25 mil per.

C'mon man, Garrett signed that contract in 2020. Sweat got 4/$98 with $62m guaranteed. Allen is going to get minimum 5/$130 with $80 guaranteed.

$15m or $16m guaranteed per year? Seems too low, to me.

(01-03-2024, 09:59 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-03-2024, 09:36 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]C'mon man, Garrett signed that contract in 2020. Sweat got 4/$98 with $62m guaranteed. Allen is going to get minimum 5/$130 with $80 guaranteed.

$15m or $16m guaranteed per year? Seems too low, to me.

I looked at percentages of recent contracts that are guaranteed. I know we're seeing higher amounts recently, so I went with a conservative number. That's also the guarateed salary portion after the signing bonus not inclusive of it. Most contracts list the total, signing, and guaranteed numbers for reference.

He will request a contract that is at least No. 4/5 for a lot of these parameters:

(01-03-2024, 09:36 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-03-2024, 08:36 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I brought up a number of players deals, not just Crosbys.  I brought up Sweat who was the latest to sign and who has had a similar career to Allen.  Crosby isn't outperforming his deal, 23.5 mil per is a good deal for both sides.  Garrett is 25 mil per.

C'mon man, Garrett signed that contract in 2020. Sweat got 4/$98 with $62m guaranteed. Allen is going to get minimum 5/$130 with $80 guaranteed.

He just restructured this past year. So you are agreeing with me.  I said 24.75mil you are saying 25 mil per.  I said a 4 year maybe 5, not a 6 year if we extend him.  You are saying a 5 year lol.  I think he gets tagged if he is asking for Nick Bosa money

(01-03-2024, 10:01 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-03-2024, 09:59 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]$15m or $16m guaranteed per year? Seems too low, to me.

I looked at percentages of recent contracts that are guaranteed. I know we're seeing higher amounts recently, so I went with a conservative number. That's also the guarateed salary portion after the signing bonus not inclusive of it. Most contracts list the total, signing, and guaranteed numbers for reference.

OK I'm including the signing bonus so we might be on the same page.

It’s quite simple you pay him top 5 De money, he’s a great player, and while I obviously don’t know him every reporter or person around the team tells you he’s an amazing team mate, that’s the kind of player/leader you sign long term and keep happy

(01-03-2024, 11:31 AM)Craigukjag Wrote: [ -> ]It’s quite simple you pay him top 5 De money, he’s a great player, and while I obviously don’t know him every reporter or person around the team tells you he’s an amazing team mate, that’s the kind of player/leader  you sign long term and keep happy

Agreed, that's why I said 24.75 mil per year.  That would make a top 5 paid edge rusher.  If he has been more consistent the last few years, All Pro, NFL defensive player of the year etc. I could see him setting the market and becoming the highest paid defender in history like AD, Watt, Bosa etc.  I don't think he sets the market, if he wants that he gets tagged

(01-03-2024, 09:59 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-03-2024, 09:36 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]C'mon man, Garrett signed that contract in 2020. Sweat got 4/$98 with $62m guaranteed. Allen is going to get minimum 5/$130 with $80 guaranteed.

$15m or $16m guaranteed per year? Seems too low, to me.

That's not how it should be viewed.  The guarantees are the signing bonus and early years of the deal and are not prorated over the life of the contract.  I could see $80 to $100MM guaranteed which would be the signing bonus plus the next 2-3 years of the contract fully guaranteed based on a $25MM per year salary.  After that he's essentially playing at the team's option or holding out for a new deal if his play is at or exceeding his pay at that point.

Keep him a Jag longterm. Good building block. Need couple other pieces on defense

Silly question, but what is Josh’s current rating on madden?

(01-03-2024, 03:59 PM)MojoKing Wrote: [ -> ]Silly question, but what is Josh’s current rating on madden?

89 superstar development. My guess is when they do the ratings update tomorrow he will be a 90 or 91.

(01-03-2024, 09:59 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-03-2024, 09:36 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]C'mon man, Garrett signed that contract in 2020. Sweat got 4/$98 with $62m guaranteed. Allen is going to get minimum 5/$130 with $80 guaranteed.

$15m or $16m guaranteed per year? Seems too low, to me.

Agreed.    Josh deserves to be a 100 million dollar player.   Sign him for 5 years, 20 million per.

Front load the cotract in the need to resign Lawrence in the future.

It’s going to be 5 yr 150mil 80 guaranteed

(01-04-2024, 04:21 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-03-2024, 09:59 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]$15m or $16m guaranteed per year? Seems too low, to me.

Agreed.    Josh deserves to be a 100 million dollar player.   Sign him for 5 years, 20 million per.

I think he gets a 4 year 100 mil

When 41 walks in and his agent says "this is what we think we deserve" Baalke should say "deal"

Back up the Brinks truck. Back it right the hell up.

I'm just happy we finally have a first round pick who actually deserves to be paid like the best in the league if i'm being honest.

The NFL owes Allen *1 extra sack

Allen is only .5 sacks away from being tied for most sacks in the NFL.

He could plausibly finish the season as the sack leader.

And some people say he isn't worthy of an elite contract.