Quote:I agree...Blake's best year was almost 75% jump balls.
It didn't surprise me that in 2016 the jump ball plan didn't work anymore.
Those passes were jump balls by design. AR15 isn't going to out run anyone. You throw it up and let him use his body and hops to go get it. As for 2016 we stopped throwing down field and opted to throw for 1 yard gains in the flat. That's why Gus and Olson are no longer here.
Quote:Blake had a career day against Tennessee in 2015. He threw for over 300 yards, 5tds, 0 ints, and a 134 rating.
but PFF didn't have a good grade on him that day. That's what KY looks at
Quote:Those passes were jump balls by design. AR15 isn't going to out run anyone. You throw it up and let him use his body and hops to go get it. As for 2016 we stopped throwing down field and opted to throw for 1 yard gains in the flat. That's why Gus and Olson are no longer here.
My man you cannot make those observations because that's called speaking the truth and they don't like that around here when it comes to Blake Bortles. LOL
Quote:I was thinking the same thing. I thought it might have been a joke!
This three throw stretch? Like that's a real thing?
And on top of it, it's preseason throws.
If there is anyone who takes KY seriously anymore, it's a mystery to me why.
Glock is like his puppet. KY could say the sky is green and he would believe it
Quote:LOL... Ted was barely game managing when he broke.
One thing about the Jags (for better and worse) is they certainly didn't hold Blake back. Ted boxed in that offense because of his limitations, so they boxed in Ted. Heavily. So much so they certainly didn't get much production out of him.
Norv Turner even said this himself
Quote:Those passes were jump balls by design. AR15 isn't going to out run anyone. You throw it up and let him use his body and hops to go get it. As for 2016 we stopped throwing down field and opted to throw for 1 yard gains in the flat. That's why Gus and Olson are no longer here.
We didn't stop throwing downfield, teams just started playing almost exclusively cover 2. Blake can't hit the deep out or seam buster cover 2 beaters with any consistency to force teams out of it.
Quote:but PFF didn't have a good grade on him that day. That's what KY looks at
Good to see you are getting as bad as Achilles with not being interested in having honest, grown up conversations, since you know what you said is a lie and just don't care.
I guess you deserve the same treatment too.
Quote:Those passes were jump balls by design. AR15 isn't going to out run anyone. You throw it up and let him use his body and hops to go get it. As for 2016 we stopped throwing down field and opted to throw for 1 yard gains in the flat. That's why Gus and Olson are no longer here.
I'm sure the jump balls were by design.
But Blake has bad accuracy when trying to hit a guy in stride.
I realize ar15 isn't going to out run anybody.
It just doesn't make sense that he's so inaccurate and throw such a horrible pass
Quote:We didn't stop throwing downfield, teams just started playing almost exclusively cover 2. Blake can't hit the deep out or seam buster cover 2 beaters with any consistency to force teams out of it.
Teams won't stop over the top coverage because you can pass against it, they do it because you successfully run against it, which the Jaguars never did in 2016, that's why the Jaguars saw a lot of pass coverage schemes instead of run stop schemes, it's also why it's clear Coughlin knows that aspect of the game must be fixed.
Quote:I'm sure the jump balls were by design.
But Blake has bad accuracy when trying to hit a guy in stride.
I realize ar15 isn't going to out run anybody.
It just doesn't make sense that he's so inaccurate and throw such a horrible pass
Was every pass he has thrown was a bad and hoorible pass? When A-Rob had dropped touchdown passes and passes that result in an interceptions was that Blake fault too. We get it you hate Blake it's all good but between your hearsay reporting and your over the top criticism of him is getting overblown and personal but maybe I'm taking it the wrong way.
Quote:Was every pass he has thrown was a bad and hoorible pass? When A-Rob had dropped touchdown passes and passes that result in an interceptions was that Blake fault too. We get it you hate Blake it's all good but between your hearsay reporting and your over the top criticism of him is getting overblown and personal but maybe I'm taking it the wrong way.
No offense, I like the guy too, but even at his best in 2015 Blake is not very good at hitting WR's in stride. He's just not. Perhaps that will change...I know I'd like it to.
Quote:No offense, I like the guy too, but even at his best in 2015 Blake is not very good at hitting WR's in stride. He's just not. Perhaps that will change...I know I'd like it to.
Yeah even in his best season, A lot of Arobs highlight plays from 2015 were him adjusting to blakes misplacement.
Quote:No offense, I like the guy too, but even at his best in 2015 Blake is not very good at hitting WR's in stride. He's just not. Perhaps that will change...I know I'd like it to.
It's true.
It happens way too infrequently. Watching the all22 stuff makes it even more apparent how much adjustment he's getting from his receivers.
The accuracy issues are real. The timing is too.
Even the simple swing pass to a RB he struggles mightily with.
The velocity, arc and timing are woefully inconsistent on those passes. There were
many such instances in 2016 where Ivory or Yeldon may have had a shot at a nice gain only to wait too long for an inaccurate pass that arrived a tenth-second before the defender.
I'm still rooting for him, and I have seen him hit guys in stride. I have seen him lob the swing pass with proper touch and timing.
I've just seen nothing to convince me he'll ever do those things consistently well.
its real easy to look better on the field without people defending you. I'm not saying his throws don't look better or anything like that. all im saying is huge difference between no one in your face then there is with someone in your face in a actual game.
Quote:its real easy to look better on the field without people defending you. I'm not saying his throws don't look better or anything like that. all im saying is huge difference between no one in your face then there is with someone in your face in a actual game.
Sorry to pick on you for this Wolfie but you're the most recent one to say this....
Yes you're right, there's a difference when someone is in your face. HOWEVER, in Blake's case, he was throwing like garbage in training camp under no pressure situations. He had that hitch and footwork problems running this same drill in Jax TC last year.
It's definitely a positive that he's fixed it here. Hopefully it translates to in game. I tend to think it will.
Quote:Sorry to pick on you for this Wolfie but you're the most recent one to say this....
Yes you're right, there's a difference when someone is in your face. HOWEVER, in Blake's case, he was throwing like garbage in training camp under no pressure situations. He had that hitch and footwork problems running this same drill in Jax TC last year.
It's definitely a positive that he's fixed it here. Hopefully it translates to in game. I tend to think it will.
Didn't Tebow release a similar type clip when he fixed his wind-up?
Quote:Didn't Tebow release a similar type clip when he fixed his wind-up?
Unfortunately yes. Did it transfer no. Will this? Probaly not.
Quote:Didn't Tebow release a similar type clip when he fixed his wind-up?
Don't recall, but there is a big difference between having a problem for one season and always having a problem.
Bortles throwing motion was fine coming out of college and in his first two years. No idea who taught him that ridiculous motion from last year.
Quote:Unfortunately yes. Did it transfer no. Will this? Probaly not.
Bortles mechanics transferred pretty well in the 2015 season. It was taking that next year off from his training there that led to his regression.
Be skeptical all you want, but you can't say "probably not" when Bortles history, albeit limited, shows when he works on this it does transfer to the games for him.
He was evidently injured in 2016. Due to a fatigued arm. However, not like he was on point in 2015.
Did he throw 30 tds? Yes. Was the majority of them perfectly placed?
Or adjustments from the receivers?
Why did he have to throw that much?
Because we were down by two tds or more. And was playing catch up. With lenient defenses.
And still lost.
Is he better then tebow. Even though tebow won a playoff game.
Without a doubt. Is elite no way.
Is he in the top half of nfl qbs? Absolutely not.
Can Marone and his staff. Help Blake produce more wins?
Without a doubt. Cause he needs that push to be successful.
But lets just say with all the improvements. We split down the middle.
Do we still not look for a new qb in four years can't make playoffs?
And first three couldnt win 6 games?
I say we still need to draft a qb.
But as good as Doug is and our OC. They can't bet the farm on someone inaccuate and seriously needs help in the mental game.
I would not be shocked with a qb at 4 or within first 3 or four rounds.
As good as cook or fournette could be. It wont help a ton. And all grabbing a great defender does.
Is set up for a new qb in 2018 to be successful. And speed up the process of learning.
Which nothing is wrong with it. And still will root and cheer and scream for my Jags. All season long.