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Quote:I remember the offseason mechanical change video hype all over ESPN every offseason for Tebow too.

Tebow never went for 70 and 11,000 over his first three seasons so there is a bit of a difference.

Hopefully his arm doesn't get tired like he said it did his rookie yearv

Quote:Tebow never went for 70 and 11,000 over his first three seasons so there is a bit of a difference.

There's a huge difference.

This coming year is huge for Blake.

I hope he let's his self have fun...

Because it could get really ugly really fast if he doesn't play well right away

This is what we get after we ripped apart other qb's mechanics... yup, we got the same gift

Good for him.  I'm not as down on Bortles as some around here but those mechanics last year and those ducks were really hard to watch.  

 

There's a long way to go to undo the trainwreck we saw last year but it sure would be a great story if he was able to fix things and get back to where he left off at the end of 2015.

I'm seriously pulling for the guy. I too, am not as down on him as some of the crew here.

 

Progress isn't a straight shot up. I'm hoping the guy just had a bad year and felt pressured to save Gus, while not having much veteran presence on the team. He certainly played better the final two games after things hit rock bottom.

 

I hope next hear he shreds things. We've all seen him play well at times and even make some remarkable throws.

 

Fingers crossed.

Music to my ears...and no incompetent offensive coordinator to get in his way this time. Okay Yeldon, everyone else is doing what they can to fix this. What are YOU doing to help this offseason?

The problem is our qb going into his fourth year is still worrying about his mechanics.


Thats a huge issue.


All i can say is im damn glad he started his first year instead of sitting watching coverages and working on his throwing motion. It really paid off.

Quote:Unwilling to buy in to "but next year"?  The guy had a breakout season 18 months ago.  Did he have a bad season last year...yes.  Did he play for the worst head coach of all time, re-tread OC and pathetic offensive line...yes.  He deserves a year with a real coach and if he doesn't win you move on but he deserves a chance given the dumpster fire the organization threw him in for 3 years.

Let's not forget the running game was trash too.

Quote:The problem is our qb going into his fourth year is still worrying about his mechanics.

Thats a huge issue.

All i can say is im damn glad he started his first year instead of sitting watching coverages and working on his throwing motion. It really paid off.

Once again, do we say the same thing about Cam Newton and Tom Brady who work on their arm mechanics every year. Stop acting like Blake Bortles working on his mechanics is anomaly despite the fact the other QBs does the same thing.

Quote:Once again, do we say the same thing about Cam Newton and Tom Brady who work on their bikinis every year.

Hahahaha

Quote:Hahahaha

My bad that was a grammar error. LOL

Quote:Let's not take ourselves too seriously..I want Blake to do well.

 

Well? What's wrong with you? I want him to do great!


Hang your head in shame and stop pretending to be a true fan :thumbsup:

Bortles, latavius murray, ar15, jags have their tripplets, chaaaammmmpppiiiooonnnssshhip

Quote:I remember the offseason mechanical change video hype all over ESPN every offseason for Tebow too. 

This. Yes he threw for 35 TDs, but that was your "lightning in a bottle" scenario.  He has never completed over 60% over a season and his arm "tires" over the duration of a season because his mechanics revert and decay, When you throw a ball incorrectly for long enough it will wear your arm out(may even cause injury), causing less power behind your passes, less accuracy and your timing is off too. I have little faith in Bortles at this point, but if he can somehow unlearn his old mechanics and keep his footwork/arm in check for 16-20 games(probably more likely to win the lotto twice) he can be really good. Otherwise, just another project QB that busted out of the 1st round. 

Bortles will be the reason for the eating of much crow nest season. You can take that to the bank and deposit it.

 

That way you broke [BLEEP] fools will at least have something in there. :woot:

Quote:This. Yes he threw for 35 TDs, but that was your "lightning in a bottle" scenario. He has never completed over 60% over a season and his arm "tires" over the duration of a season because his mechanics revert and decay, When you throw a ball incorrectly for long enough it will wear your arm out(may even cause injury), causing less power behind your passes, less accuracy and your timing is off too. I have little faith in Bortles at this point, but if he can somehow unlearn his old mechanics and keep his footwork/arm in check for 16-20 games(probably more likely to win the lotto twice) he can be really good. Otherwise, just another project QB that busted out of the 1st round.

Or the Jags get a run game so my man doesn't have to throw 40 times a game or more.


Better D (in ppg terms) and better run game most likely means a better Blake.

Quote:Or the Jags get a run game so my man doesn't have to throw 40 times a game or more.


Better D (in ppg terms) and better run game most likely means a better Blake.

 

Amen.

Quote:This. Yes he threw for 35 TDs, but that was your "lightning in a bottle" scenario.  He has never completed over 60% over a season and his arm "tires" over the duration of a season because his mechanics revert and decay, When you throw a ball incorrectly for long enough it will wear your arm out(may even cause injury), causing less power behind your passes, less accuracy and your timing is off too. I have little faith in Bortles at this point, but if he can somehow unlearn his old mechanics and keep his footwork/arm in check for 16-20 games(probably more likely to win the lotto twice) he can be really good. Otherwise, just another project QB that busted out of the 1st round. 

 

He needs to work on his mechanics which will help him avoid the bad throws that result in turnovers and raise his completion percentage but it's hard to think of a guy who's been responsible for as much offense as he has as a bust.  For some perspective, look at some previous Jags starter's first 3 years.

 

Brunell
43 games started, 9,816 yards, 63.8% completion percentage, 53 TDs, 34 INTs.
 

<div>Leftwich
38 games started, 7,883 yards, 58.6% completion percentage, 44 TDs, 41 INTs
 
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Bortles
46 games started, 11,241 yards, 58.8% completion percentage, 69 TDs, 51 INTs.
 
Sure, Bortles has to bring down the turnovers and work on the completion percentage, but if you take Brunell as the gold standard (Pride of the Jaguars and all that), Bortles is at least in the conversation.

Quote:He needs to work on his mechanics which will help him avoid the bad throws that result in turnovers and raise his completion percentage but it's hard to think of a guy who's been responsible for as much offense as he has as a bust. For some perspective, look at some previous Jags starter's first 3 years.


Brunell

43 games started, 9,816 yards, 63.8% completion percentage, 53 TDs, 34 INTs.



Leftwich

38 games started, 7,883 yards, 58.6% completion percentage, 44 TDs, 41 INTs


Bortles

46 games started, 11,241 yards, 58.8% completion percentage, 69 TDs, 51 INTs.


Sure, Bortles has to bring down the turnovers and work on the completion percentage, but if you take Brunell as the gold standard (Pride of the Jaguars and all that), Bortles is at least in the conversation.

Yup. Bortles biggest problem is his INTs. But we knew from day one that he'd be a guy who throws a lot of INTs but also a lot of TDs. His rookie year is really making his overall number look worse bc he only threw what, 11tds but 17ints?


With a better run game he'll be able to throw less and in turn take less chances just to keep us in games.


Let's also remember, he's only been out there since what? Late January/beginning of Feb? He's only halfway done with his training out there this year.