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He better play great. With our defense now (if the play to full potential) , WRs we have, the assumption that we beef up our OLine and go fournette or cook and With khan and coughlin in a win now mindset. If he doesn't play great in 2017 then bye bye

He threw for 4400 yards and 35 TDs when they pushed the ball downfield.  Gus talked run all offseason last year and clearly changed the passing scheme to be a short passing game (how many times did we throw the ball in the flat for a 1 yard gain?).  One problem with the plan...they couldn't run the ball putting them in 3rd and long all year yet Olson stayed with the short passing scheme.  Once the Gus bus pulled out of town Marrone decided to push the ball down the field and Blake's last 2 games looked completely different than the first 14.  

We have already done so much in FA. I think that management is doing everything they can to make this team a winner. With all the changes taking place, it would be a shame to have addressed every need only to have the team fall short due to subpar quarterback play. We know that management is counting on Bortles being the starter, and hoping that plays better, I just hope they have a Plan B.


Edit: A viable Plan B, that doesn't include Chad Henne.

"Blake looks to be doing better"


"Oh yea? Bet he still sucks and the Jags suck and Blake isn't good and Marrone sucks."


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Quote:We have already done so much in FA. I think that management is doing everything they can to make this team a winner. With all the changes taking place, it would be a shame to have addressed every need only to have the team fall short due to subpar quarterback play. We know that management is counting on Bortles being the starter, and hoping that plays better, I just hope they have a Plan B.


Edit: A viable Plan B, that doesn't include Chad Henne.

I want Blake to be the starter but there has to be a Plan B. No way TC is going into next season without a Plan B and no way Plan B is Chad Henne.

Quote:I want Blake to be the starter but there has to be a Plan B. No way TC is going into next season without a Plan B and no way Plan B is Chad Henne.

There isn't a point to any of the message board ranting about what the team needs.


Who do you think is out there waiting to be signed that can be a better than top half of the league passer, which is what Bortles is when he plays decently? And that's just what he's done so far. The Jaguars spent more than a decade looking for someone that could throw more than 23 TDs in a season.

I would really like to know what they think about Brandon Allen. They drafted him last year, and I believe he was suppose to be the plan B. But Henne was resigned. Maybe a decent QB projected to go around the 3rd round?

Quote:The bar has been set extremely low when this is a highlight.

 

lol .... no kidding.

Quote:I want Blake to be the starter but there has to be a Plan B. No way TC is going into next season without a Plan B and no way Plan B is Chad Henne.

And how many starting caliber quarterbacks do you think are fine with signing up to be Plan B? Do you think Tony Romo is going to say "That's cool Tom. I have 5 teams all willing to have me start Week 1 and pay me accordingly but I'm fine with riding the bench until you figure out if your current starter is the future or not."

Quote:We have a QB who even during his franchise record breaking 2015 season where he did some great things still made the same mistakes then that we saw last year and single handedly cost us several games in both 2015 and 2016. Many have been willfully ignorant about 2015, but the writing for 2016 was on the wall if you cared to examine his performance objectively (i.e. temper your irrational exuberance). He essentially took 2016 off and went through the motions on game day and then threw his coaches who were no longer here under the bus after the season was over.


Very little about him suggests he's a leader of men and that is usually a problem when it comes to QBs. Several of you are willing to bend over backwards to refuse to believe what your senses should be telling you just because dude is wearing a Jags uni. I'm not trying to kill optimism regarding him or the team and this post isn't targeted at those who are merely optimistic as I myself am somewhat optimistic about this season, but some of you act like you're relatives of his or part of his circle of friends with how fervently you defend him.


Does that one throw look good? Yeah. Do I hope he plays better in 2017? You bet. Will I be rooting for him on game day in 2017? Absolutely. But let's be honest here: it's ONE throw in shorts in perfect conditions with no pass rush. That scenario won't happen much if at all during the season.


Some of you are kidding yourselves and doing intellectual pretzels to provide excuses for him. It's why the rest of us are picturing this guy with this exact expression at the keyboard behind your posts.

Post of the year!

Quote:There isn't a point to any of the message board ranting about what the team needs.


Who do you think is out there waiting to be signed that can be a better than top half of the league passer, which is what Bortles is when he plays decently? And that's just what he's done so far. The Jaguars spent more than a decade looking for someone that could throw more than 23 TDs in a season.

Cutler,Romo,Rg3 potentially Bridgewater,Garopollo, Taylor..

Btw, does anyone know how fowler is doing this offseason? He's supposed to be working out with Von miller

Quote:Cutler,Romo,Rg3 potentially Bridgewater,Garopollo, Taylor..

All of whom I am sure are more than happy to sit on the bench while the team finds out if Bortles is good or not. 

Quote:Btw, does anyone know how fowler is doing this offseason? He's supposed to be working out with Von miller

He's probably loving Mile High Stadium.

Quote:BB5 set franchise records under one of the worst coaches in history, without any semblance of a running game all the while being the most sacked QB in the league. That in itself is reason enough to not throw the towel in on him yet. I hold the belief he will blossom and thrive under Marrone.

Yes, all of those reasons and a terrible defense in addition is how Blake was able to inefficiently compile franchise record numbers. If all of that stuff was good Blake would have merely produced inefficient low numbers. 

Quote:Cutler,Romo,Rg3 potentially Bridgewater,Garopollo, Taylor..

And just to add:

 

Cutler: Just cut by the 3-13 Bears, has had two winning seasons in 11 years.

Romo: hasn't played a full season since 2014, will be 37 years old with a bad back.

RG3: Cut by the 1-15 Browns, only one full season. Hasn't played a majority of games since 2013.

Bridgewater: one year away from ACL surgery, even the Vikings don't think he's ready for 2017.

Garopollo: Did Matt Cassell not teach you people anything? Also gonna cost a fortune to trade for him.

Taylor: 8-6 & 7-8 over last two season. Gonna cost a fortune to trade for him. 

Quote:Yes, all of those reasons and a terrible defense in addition is how Blake was able to inefficiently compile franchise record numbers. If all of that stuff was good Blake would have merely produced inefficient low numbers. 

Remember kids; if your team is good, your QB is gonna suck and vice versa. 

Quote:Yes, all of those reasons and a terrible defense in addition is how Blake was able to inefficiently compile franchise record numbers. If all of that stuff was good Blake would have merely produced inefficient low numbers. 

Who gives a [BLEEP] if it produced wins… And to bring the argument that you and the usual suspects do on this topic, who cares… "Stats don't mean anything", right?

 

This is a TEAM sport... And if all of those phases were running effectively and contributed to more wins, while Bortles puts up "inefficient low numbers" - then pencil me in because thats what we want as JAGUARS FANS.

 

All you want to do is cry about something and you seem to be able to see the future or revised past. 

 

Here is one of those MB Nostradamus' I was talking about JIB.

Quote:Remember kids; if your team is good, your QB is gonna suck and vice versa. 

That's why you look at rate numbers not overall numbers. Not so hard to understand. 

 

Blake's bad rates were propped up by huge volume. If the volume wasn't so large because the team was bad, then his rates would have been bad and so would his overall numbers. 

Some of you don't want Bortles but are willing to give Cutler a chance?!!