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Quote:Well? What's wrong with you? I want him to do great!


Hang your head in shame and stop pretending to be a true fan :thumbsup:

Be careful that spacecoastjag doesn't get jealous of you and his boy/son/lover!

Quote:We take ourselves seriously because in my case i'm tired of the same people spewing negativity towards this man as if they are rooting for him to fail to be so called right. Some people on here isn't happy unless they are unhappy and if that's the case i don't know they're love one's deal with them on a daily basis.

He has won 13 games and lost almost 3xs as many.


So no, I am not gonna be thrilled over one pass. With no pass rush and no pressure.

I think Bortles' biggest mountain to climb is gonna be trying to put last season behind him.. He's showing that he has the work ethic, but can he mentally move on from last season? Negative thoughts have the ability to crawl inside your head and wreak havoc. Gotta eliminate those negative mental blocks and keep trying to move forward..

Quote:I think Bortles' biggest mountain to climb is gonna be trying to put last season behind him.. He's showing that he has the work ethic, but can he mentally move on from last season? Negative thoughts have the ability to crawl inside your head and wreak havoc. Gotta eliminate those negative mental blocks and keep trying to move forward..

I don't think any of us have an issue with Bortles if can show he can consistently win.


However he has not shown that. And last thing we need is to bet it all on Bortles.


And he does not improve.


So Romo or a talented Rookie like Watson would be an insurance policy.


I don't care what entertainment ya put in there. 10 plus years losing straight is pathetic.


Plus if we do not get romo. Be no position we need more than qb.


And I see what many are doing. 2018 qbs right now look promising.


But we say that every year before. And what happens? The qbs who shined.


Don't preform as well. And than its 2019 qb's that will shine.


That kind of thinking. Will get us no where. who is good now?


That's what we should focus on.

We have a QB who even during his franchise record breaking 2015 season where he did some great things still made the same mistakes then that we saw last year and single handedly cost us several games in both 2015 and 2016.  Many have been willfully ignorant about 2015, but the writing for 2016 was on the wall if you cared to examine his performance objectively (i.e. temper your irrational exuberance).  He essentially took 2016 off and went through the motions on game day and then threw his coaches who were no longer here under the bus after the season was over.  

 

Very little about him suggests he's a leader of men and that is usually a problem when it comes to QBs.  Several of you are willing to bend over backwards to refuse to believe what your senses should be telling you just because dude is wearing a Jags uni.  I'm not trying to kill optimism regarding him or the team and this post isn't targeted at those who are merely optimistic as I myself am somewhat optimistic about this season, but some of you act like you're relatives of his or part of his circle of friends with how fervently you defend him.

 

Does that one throw look good?  Yeah.  Do I hope he plays better in 2017?  You bet.  Will I be rooting for him on game day in 2017?  Absolutely.  But let's be honest here: it's ONE throw in shorts in perfect conditions with no pass rush.  That scenario won't happen much if at all during the season.  

 

Some of you are kidding yourselves and doing intellectual pretzels to provide excuses for him.  It's why the rest of us are picturing this guy with this exact expression at the keyboard behind your posts.

 

Quote:We have a QB who even during his franchise record breaking 2015 season where he did some great things still made the same mistakes then that we saw last year and single handedly cost us several games in both 2015 and 2016. Many have been willfully ignorant about 2015, but the writing for 2016 was on the wall if you cared to examine his performance objectively (i.e. temper your irrational exuberance). He essentially took 2016 off and went through the motions on game day and then threw his coaches who were no longer here under the bus after the season was over.


Very little about him suggests he's a leader of men and that is usually a problem when it comes to QBs. Several of you are willing to bend over backwards to refuse to believe what your senses should be telling you just because dude is wearing a Jags uni. I'm not trying to kill optimism regarding him or the team and this post isn't targeted at those who are merely optimistic as I myself am somewhat optimistic about this season, but some of you act like you're relatives of his or part of his circle of friends with how fervently you defend him.


Does that one throw look good? Yeah. Do I hope he plays better in 2017? You bet. Will I be rooting for him on game day in 2017? Absolutely. But let's be honest here: it's ONE throw in shorts in perfect conditions with no pass rush. That scenario won't happen much if at all during the season.


Some of you are kidding yourselves and doing intellectual pretzels to provide excuses for him. It's why the rest of us are picturing this guy with this exact expression at the keyboard behind your posts.

Agreed.

The Jags have to find an insurance policy this off season.  Blake will get his chance but if he continues to struggle go to plan B.

Quote:Just curious, what are you basing your optimism off of?

 

I'm not necessarily optimistic.

 

But I'll reserve judgement until the latter stages of the 2017 season. There is a new regime. He has show flashes of being very good and very poor.

 

If he doesn't get it right with a new regime, then I'm happy to move on, but until then I'd rather 'wait and see'.

Quote:Be careful that spacecoastjag doesn't get jealous of you and his boy/son/lover!

 

I thought spacecoastjag WAS BB5.. my bad.

Quote:The Jags have to find an insurance policy this off season. Blake will get his chance but if he continues to struggle go to plan B.

Same thing in simple form ty. Good thing Tom will pull the trigger.

Quote:I'm not necessarily optimistic.


But I'll reserve judgement until the latter stages of the 2017 season. There is a new regime. He has show flashes of being very good and very poor.


If he doesn't get it right with a new regime, then I'm happy to move on, but until then I'd rather 'wait and see'.

He is not very good if can't win games. Fantasy is just that, not real.

Quote:He is not very good if can't win games. Fantasy is just that, not real.

 

"He has shown flashes of being very good" is what I said.

 

I also said "and very poor" so there's no need to focus on one part of my post.

BB5 set franchise records under one of the worst coaches in history, without any semblance of a running game all the while being the most sacked QB in the league. That in itself is reason enough to not throw the towel in on him yet. I hold the belief he will blossom and thrive under Marrone.

Quote:BB5 set franchise records under one of the worst coaches in history, without any semblance of a running game all the while being the most sacked QB in the league. That in itself is reason enough to not throw the towel in on him yet. I hold the belief he will blossom and thrive under Marrone.

 

This.

Quote:BB5 set franchise records under one of the worst coaches in history, without any semblance of a running game all the while being the most sacked QB in the league. That in itself is reason enough to not throw the towel in on him yet. I hold the belief he will blossom and thrive under Marrone.

Stats once again are fantasy. Wins in the NFL are all that matter.

Quote:Stats once again are fantasy. Wins in the NFL are all that matter.

My God man let it go. You don't like him, that's fine. Can you at least say you hope he does well? However unlikely you may think it is.


Also, you don't just fall into 35tds in a season on accident.

Quote:My God man let it go. You don't like him, that's fine. Can you at least say you hope he does well? However unlikely you may think it is.


Also, you don't just fall into 35tds in a season on accident.

When you have really good receivers you do.

Quote:When you have really good receivers you do.

 

So what, they just throw it to themselves?


It has to be catchable for them to, erm, catch it.

Quote:Lol, it will take a lot more than this to convince me that Blake has gotten "better". I really loved him at UCF, and was definitely on board when we drafted him. 3 years in...I'm not so sure now. Honestly, I think there has been some excuse making. Not having an adequate backup didn't help him either. And although I didn't concur with it at first, I now believe his 2015 numbers were actually garbage time stats.


I'd love for Blake to get it right this season. I want him to work out so that we're not wasting an early 2018 pick on another QB. I'm not very optimistic about it though. I think we've seen enough to warrant getting a reliable QB to have on reserve.

How many of the "actually garbage time stats" can also point to sacks taken, DBs sitting in routes, and/or Dlineman pinning their ear backs on every play?


It is amazing to me that people only contemplate the part of the equation that benefits Blake, while not bothering with the idea that it gets that much more difficult as well on a lot of levels.


Like Dlineman aren't licking their chops to jack up their own numbers at those times.....

Quote:When you have really good receivers you do.

Like clockwork