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Quote:Hmm...

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/258375-agency-wont-give-gop-internal-docs-on-climate-research'>This is kind of interesting.</a>

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/10/26/us-congress-to-investigate-noaas-temperature-adjustments/'>So is this.</a>


I guess. If you find republican obstructionism of science for political reasons interesting.
Quote:So you live in the Arctic? While the sea ice in the Arctic is below average, the Antarctic set a record for most sea ice just last year.


 

If you are referring to WRITTEN history, there wasn't anything written about the extent of the polar caps. We have no good measurements of them until satellites. But there were historical records of the Vikings farming in Greenland and grapes being grown in Scotland 1000 years ago.


 

YOU need to go outside. Does it feel warmer than it did 15 years ago? Go to Majorie Kinnan Rawlings house in Cross Creek. There's a map of where the orange groves used to be. There's no way people grow oranges that far north any more, because it has gotten COLDER. Even the groves around Clermont have been abandoned due to cold.


 

Go to the beach. Is the water warmer? The water levels are rising, but not rising any faster than they have been since they started keeping records over 100 years ago. For instance:


 

http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrend...id=8720030

 

Tornadoes are down. This March was the only the second time that ZERO tornadoes were reported that month (1969 was the other). also, historically there have been plenty of tornadoes in PA. Look at the maps at the bottom of this page:


 

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/wcm/#data

 

You need to look at the actual data rather than just read press releases
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To be fair, most researchers claim it as Global Climate Change. So marking that no bad things or something would actually agree with that. The predictions are for extremes, with little time in between or time to adjust. Examples would be just as you noted the record low of tornadoes that you noted or the high of SEASONAL Antarctic ice which is increasing, but the Permanent ice sheets are receding.

 

However, would you at least agree that it would be brash to say NOTHING that humans are doing/releasing is changing the world's ecology, fauna, flora, and climate? If you can agree to that, then it would make sense to evaluate and try to figure out what changes are happening and what can be stopped.

 

The problem is that, given what we understand, is that most of these changes have a cascading effect where once you really notice the end all effects it is too late change things. The only way to try to enact change then is by scare tactics because of multiple aspects of human nature.
Quote: The only way to try to enact change then is by scare tactics because of multiple aspects of human nature.
 

On that note, here's today's newest scare tactic. It turns out that Global Warming means fewer people getting laid.

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...mer-planet

 

That Global Warming/Cooling/Climate Change...

 

is there ANYTHING it can't mess up?
I hope you republicans don't enjoy a subscription to national geographic. You might be exposed to some things you really don't want to see in this month's issue. Consider this fair warning Smile
Quote:I hope you republicans don't enjoy a subscription to national geographic. You might be exposed to some things you really don't want to see in this month's issue. Consider this fair warning Smile
 

Difficulty: contains Bill Nye articles. No thanks.
Some people just go out of their way to attempt to discredit and/or ridicule people who are intelligent or in the sciences. It's shameful and yet this perspective is not only fostered on the right but celebrated as well. Good luck with that.  

Quote:Some people just go out of their way to attempt to discredit and/or ridicule people who are intelligent or in the sciences. It's shameful and yet this perspective is not only fostered on the right but celebrated as well. Good luck with that.  
 

You don't have to go far out of your way at all to discredit that guy.
Quote:You don't have to go far out of your way at all to discredit that guy.
And if it was just celebrity type scientists than sure. It's not though. 
Damn. I hate the heat..
Lol the oil just goes to china to help their economy.
Quote:<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.sciencealert.com/china-emits-nearly-1-billion-tonnes-more-co2-a-year-than-it-discloses-report-claims'>http://www.sciencealert.com/china-emits-nearly-1-billion-tonnes-more-co2-a-year-than-it-discloses-report-claims</a>


Whoops


Surprised? No one else is.
Quote:Surprised? No one else is.


Nope. You should see what General Tso's Chicken does to me, alone..
I can't believe that this thread is still alive.  Global warming climate change is a national security threat?  Really?

Quote:I can't believe that this thread is still alive. <del>Global warming</del> climate change is a national security threat? Really?


Are you really asking a queation that was already answered in a thread you started?
2015 is the warmest year on record. Again. So it goes.