Quote:This is not true according to the experts.
This is simply your belief, which you refuse to let go of, which is the entire basis of your argument. You start with your conclusion and work your way backwards to the argument, ie the experts aren't saying what I expect to hear, therefore they are lying. It's actually exactly what you accuse the scientists of and exactly the opposite of what they actually do.
According to some experts who've been caught fudging the data. Second verse, same as the first.
Quote:This is not true according to the experts.
This is simply your belief, which you refuse to let go of, which is the entire basis of your argument. You start with your conclusion and work your way backwards to the argument, ie the experts aren't saying what I expect to hear, therefore they are lying. It's actually exactly what you accuse the scientists of and exactly the opposite of what they actually do.
Are these the "experts" that you are referring to?
http://www.naturalnews.com/045695_global...raud.html#
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014...year-2000/
Quote:According to some experts who've been caught fudging the data. Second verse, same as the first.
You can be wrong all you want. You can 'believe' what you want.
But, in the real world, where existent things actually permeate the constraints of our physical reality, there is a :::very real thing::: called 'The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change,' which explicitedly states the Man (not Nature) is the primary driver of today's climate change.
It is most definitely not just "some experts who've been caught fudging the data."
It's Nasa. It's noaa.
Here's most everyone outside of the states:
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php'>http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php</a>
They all say the same thing.
Quote:So find me a quote by someone who made such a claim before 'until recently.' It certainly wasn't the claim of the 31,000+ scientists who signed the Oregon petition.
Or were you just accepting the talking point of some left-wing website?
Fair enough I cannot find, in the time I have given, any direct quotes claiming what I suggested. I stand corrected.
Plenty of indirect ones but none I would consider direct denials. I have my own anecdotal evidence of plenty of people interpreting things to mean nothing is happening perhaps just accepting the talking point of right leaning "news" sources.
Quote:So find me a quote by someone who made such a claim before 'until recently.' It certainly wasn't the claim of the 31,000+ scientists who signed the Oregon petition.
Or were you just accepting the talking point of some left-wing website?
Lol you did not just bring up the thoroughly debunked Oregon petition signed online by 'scientists' like Mickey MouseYou really are a loon.
Quote:You can be wrong all you want. You can 'believe' what you want.
But, in the real world, where existent things actually permeate the constraints of our physical reality, there is a :::very real thing::: called 'The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change,' which explicitedly states the Man (not Nature) is the primary driver of today's climate change.
It is most definitely not just "some experts who've been caught fudging the data."
It's Nasa. It's noaa.
Here's most everyone outside of the states:
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php'>http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php</a>
They all say the same thing.
Deny it all you want, the truth is that the foundation of fraud they've built is crashing like a house of cards.
Quote:Are these the "experts" that you are referring to?
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.naturalnews.com/045695_global_warming_fabricated_data_scientific_fraud.html#'>http://www.naturalnews.com/045695_global_warming_fabricated_data_scientific_fraud.html#</a>
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/noaanasa-dramatically-altered-us-temperatures-after-the-year-2000/'>https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/noaanasa-dramatically-altered-us-temperatures-after-the-year-2000/</a>
No. Climate scientists don't run blogs.
Quote:Deny it all you want, the truth is that the foundation of fraud they've built is crashing like a house of cards.
In your sad, sad, sad, sad, little world, sure, whatever. In the real world, your politicians will soon start backpedaling, eg Christie's recent announcement.
Quote:No. Climate scientists don't run blogs.
If you bothered to read either of the blogs, they point to actual data where "climate scientists" at both NOAA and NASA intentionally manipulated data. However, keeping with the left's mindset, the "data" is accurate and "proof" of
global warming climate change caused by man.
Quote:Bill Nye was caught faking the results of this experiment for just that reason.
Talk about being a fraud... an actor with a mechanical engineering degree talking about climate change.
Quote:In your sad, sad, sad, sad, little world, sure, whatever. In the real world, your politicians will soon start backpedaling, eg Christie's recent announcement.
RINOs arent my politicians. You guys are the ones who have it made, no matter who wins the elections you get your poisonous policies passed.
Quote:Talk about being a fraud... an actor with a mechanical engineering degree talking about climate change.
He's got a sweet bowtie though
Quote:RINOs arent my politicians. You guys are the ones who have it made, no matter who wins the elections you get your poisonous policies passed.
Good thing the EPA and the CDC is around amirite?!
Quote:If you bothered to read either of the blogs, they point to actual data where "climate scientists" at both NOAA and NASA intentionally manipulated data. However, keeping with the left's mindset, the "data" is accurate and "proof" of <del>global warming</del> climate change caused by man.
I can make a blog and say whatever I want to too. I'm just not a jerk.
Quote:Lol you did not just bring up the thoroughly debunked Oregon petition signed online by 'scientists' like Mickey MouseYou really are a loon.
Anyone can sign a petition using a fake name, and every petition has a few Mickey Mouses on it. That doesn't mean that the petition is fake. In this case, 31,000+ is the number of signatures verified to be legit.
And t
hanks for making my point for the 1000th time by using a personal attack. That's most of what Warmists deliver, rather than actual science.
Quote:Anyone can sign a petition using a fake name, and every petition has a few Mickey Mouses on it. That doesn't mean that the petition is fake. In this case, 31,000+ is the number of signatures verified to be legit.
And t
hanks for making my point for the 1000th time by using a personal attack. That's most of what Warmists deliver, rather than actual science.
How is making fun of your stupid petition a personal attack?