Pointless thread at its best!
Quote:Going to pummel the cheaters in Week 3. Brady will either be serving a lifetime ban, serving a # game suspension, or on the field with his little baby hands fumbling away regulation balls all day to Jag defenders. I think the NFL should have a new process for Patriot games. They should re-check the ball every time Brady touches it.
And then you woke up from your dream....
Quote:But soo many smart people in this thread had all the "facts" already. I figured Tom Brady and Belichick would be in jail by now with such a clear-cut case.
Speaking of those "smart" people, they seem to have abandoned the thread 
Nope smart people still here!
Quote:Nope smart people still here!
Thanks for the compliment
Quote:Thanks for the compliment
Haha
Why is that a dream Tim? If he could hold onto a regulation ball, would he risk his Hall of Fame career by cheating? Instead, he cheats not for one game but for multiple seasons, with the full backing of his "Hall of Fame" coach...and you back them.
That raven game before the clots blowout... that to me is the game that cheating helped...
Brady is tainted, that's just the deal here.
Most people had common sense and saw this pretty early... some had their head in the sand. Lol, at least one has come back to save face. Ironically, he just looks sillier...
Quote:Look at the facts.
There's an outlined penalty for deflated balls, and it's merely a fine for the team.
That's for the infraction itself.
As with most "crimes", the coverup is worse than the act. If there's any additional punishment, that's where it would have to apply.
The problem is that "probably" and "likely" aren't certainties. But, facts like that haven't stopped Goodell from overstepping his authority in the past. So with Goodell, it's not beyond the realm of possibility, regardless of his still not being able to produce any smoking gun.
Aaron Hernandez will be doing life in prison regardless of the prosecution not being able to produce any smoking gun (literally and figuratively). The integrity of the game clause far exceeds any "outlined penalty".
People at first thought Bountygate was no big deal. I'm guessing Goodell wants to avoid showing favoritism to the Patriots and may be harsher than we'd normally expect. (Someone commented that Kraft is figuring out what penalty he should receive and he'll soon let Goodell know, lol.)
While "probably" isn't a certainty, unless you have it on video or someone talks, that's the language that will be used. But it doesn't preclude the use of common sense. Have you read those e-mails? Not good.
Quote:It's not dumb. They cheated in a championship game.
Isn't committing penalties like holding cheating?
Maybe they should hold a 5 month investigation for each hold.
Quote:20 bucks says nothing happens
I think it's a conspiracy. As soon as that Seattle story broke all of a sudden Wells PI has "finished" his ridiculous report. He could have produced the next Lord of the Rings movie with this effort. NFL knows what they are doing. Divert attention from negative publicity to stupid publicity.
Contrary to what I'm reading in this thread, "more likely than not" is actually a pretty strong conclusion. "More likely than not" is all the evidence needed in a civil trial. If you're ever the defendant of a lawsuit and you're found to be "more likely than not" in the wrong you lose the lawsuit.
Quote:I think it's a conspiracy. As soon as that Seattle story broke all of a sudden Wells PI has "finished" his ridiculous report. He could have produced the next Lord of the Rings movie with this effort. NFL knows what they are doing. Divert attention from negative publicity to stupid publicity.
What Seattle story? The Frank Clark stuff?
If so, that was going to be a minor story and out of the public's consciousness within a few days.
At least Brady was smart enough to pay them in cash and free shoes. But it's obvious this was not a 1 game incident. Statistical analysis suggests it went on for 6 seasons. I don't think it's possible that Belichick did not know. Even if it wasn't Belichick's idea, teams do their own analytics. This was a large statistical anomaly where fumbles suddenly dropped to half the league average and stayed there for 6 years. The coach would know.
Quote:At least Brady was smart enough to pay them in cash and free shoes. But it's obvious this was not a 1 game incident. Statistical analysis suggests it went on for 6 seasons. I don't think it's possible that Belichick did not know. Even if it wasn't Belichick's idea, teams do their own analytics. This was a large statistical anomaly where fumbles suddenly dropped to half the league average and stayed there for 6 years. The coach would know.
Weren't the Pats the least fumbling team over the past 6 years or so?
I thought I read that somewhere.
Coincidence?? You decide.
Need a Smoking Gun? Brady (and Peyton Manning) went before the Competition Committee in 2006 and pleaded that the rules be changes to let visiting teams "break in" game balls in practice the week before the game. The rules were changed, and Brady promptly set an NFL record with 50 TDs. This is the same year the fumble ratio went way down for the Pats, and stayed down for the next 8 years.
Brady said in an interview back then that he had many "sleepless nights" worrying over the condition of the footballs he would be using next day. He said all QBs like the ball a little different, some like it less inflated, some like it more. Some like it shiny, some like it scuffed up.
Of course this flies in the face of claims by Brady and the Pats that they never think about such things. Belichick even claimed he had never once in his coaching career ever though about the air in the balls. Really? Even when your QB was testifying in front of the Competition Committee about it?
Brady is a liar and a cheat. Belichick is a liar and a cheat. Robert Kraft is a liar and a cheat.
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Penalty for Patriots for #DeflateGate -- they can only use nine players on field for Week 4 game against #Jaguars.
— Ryan O'Halloran (@ryanohalloran) 2015-05-06T17:41:35Z
Can this be true?
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The better question is, did you just ask that.
Quote:Stance is the same has it always has been, wait until the facts are out and hope anyone that broke the rules are punished.
We should have a "common sense" emoticon too...but it wouldn't be used all that often.....
You surely couldn't be a routine user of that "common sense" emoticon. The facts that were originally out at the beginning of this ordeal would allow common sense to determine what the final rulings did.
Quote:That raven game before the clots blowout... that to me is the game that cheating helped...
Brady is tainted, that's just the deal here.
Most people had common sense and saw this pretty early... some had their head in the sand. Lol, at least one has come back to save face. Ironically, he just looks sillier...
You got it.
Quote:Isn't committing penalties like holding cheating?
Maybe they should hold a 5 month investigation for each hold.
That is why there is a penalty. Did you really just post this thought?
Quote:Some people say "if you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin'..
Sure, but if you are cheating and getting caught, you aren't doing it right. Also, if you're cheating....the guy thats cheating for you should like you or he'll have no problem eventually turning you in. Like his "joke" about going to SI.