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Quote:Ima be honest. I was flat our wrong about Carr.

 

Did not think he would be this good.
Not trying to toot my own horn, but I liked Carr that year.

I was blasted by many for wanting Gabbert 2.0.

 

I was in the Mack/Carr 1.2. camp...

Da raaaidas stole my blueprint lol

which left them open for Cooper this year (I still like the Jags pick of Fowler though)
Quote:It's a joke of a comparison.....Tom Brady got hurt and Bill Belichick STILL went (11-5) with Matt Cassel. If Bortles got hurt and Henne started, Gus would go (1-15) if he was lucky. 

 

Bortles has very little help on this team. His defense is terrible 30th in PPG; they don't even cause turnovers and put the offense in good positions
To be fair... that was Cassel stepping into a system that had Randy Moss on the outside and in an AFCE that was pretty weak and the D still had Wilfork, Bruschi, and some of those playmakers.

 

But yeah.... if Henne starts here, we're 0-8 right now.

But that isn't on Gus... that'd be on Henne. He's awful lol
Quote:To be fair... that was Cassel stepping into a system that had Randy Moss on the outside and in an AFCE that was pretty weak and the D still had Wilfork, Bruschi, and some of those playmakers.

 

But yeah.... if Henne starts here, we're 0-8 right now.

But that isn't on Gus... that'd be on Henne. He's awful lol
 

It's on Gus.....his defense gives up 30 ppg. It's gotten worse EVERY year. Henne would win some games if he had a D like Garrard had and gave up 17 ppg 
Quote:It's on Gus.....his defense gives up 30 ppg. It's gotten worse EVERY year. Henne would win some games if he had a D like Garrard had and gave up 17 ppg


Do you realize that part of the reason the defense gives up so many points is that because the offense turns the ball over and is so horribly inefficient?


The defense have the 8th worst average starting position in the nfl, meaning opposing offenses are starting near scoring position pretty frequently. But here's what's interesting, the defense only allow 5.3 yards/a play. That's good for 9th best in the nfl, tied with the Patriots. You reduce the time the defense is on the field and stop giving offenses great field position and I bet you the defense would be a lot better.


Obviously the defense has issues of its own, but they look worse than they are because the offense constantly puts them in bad situations.
Quote:Do you realize that part of the reason the defense gives up so many points is that because the offense turns the ball over and is so horribly inefficient?


The defense have the 8th worst average starting position in the nfl, meaning opposing offenses are starting near scoring position pretty frequently. But here's what's interesting, the defense only allow 5.3 yards/a play. That's good for 9th best in the nfl, tied with the Patriots. You reduce the time the defense is on the field and stop giving offenses great field position and I bet you the defense would be a lot better.


Obviously the defense has issues of its own, but they look worse than they are because the offense constantly puts them in bad situations.
 

You can't read can you?

 

Gus' defense has allowed 27-30 ppg FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS!

 

Has nothing to do with turnovers. Gus is consistently BAD
Quote:You can't read can you?

 

Gus' defense has allowed 27-30 ppg FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS!

 

Has nothing to do with turnovers. Gus is consistently BAD
 

You don't think the turnovers (giving the team points directly, or via great starting position) and the offenses inability to sustain drives (tiring out the defense and giving opposing offenses good field position) has anything to do with it? Obviously their is a severed deficiency of talent on the defense, but they still only allow 5.3 yards/play. That's top 10 in the NFL, and that's no fluke. You give the opposing offense that many opportunities and great field position and they'll score eventually.
Quote:You don't think the turnovers (giving the team points directly, or via great starting position) and the offenses inability to sustain drives (tiring out the defense and giving opposing offenses good field position) has anything to do with it? Obviously their is a severed deficiency of talent on the defense, but they still only allow 5.3 yards/play. That's top 10 in the NFL, and that's no fluke. You give the opposing offense that many opportunities and great field position and they'll score eventually.
 

NO. Turnovers the past 3 years of sample size enough to say Gus Bradley and his crappy defense are the problem. Bortles has better stats than nearly EVERY playoff QB. The difference is the 10-13 ppg BETTER their defenses are. 

Quote:Do you realize that part of the reason the defense gives up so many points is that because the offense turns the ball over and is so horribly inefficient?


No,, he doesn't understand that. He truly doesn't.


** For the record,, I don't think the defense is good either. And I think Bortles will be very good.**


Space just keeps spouting PPG without realizing quite alot of those PPG are given up by pick 6's, fumble returns, and terrible short fields to defend.

That's all on the offense.


-Defense held Carolina to 13 points (Bortles pick 6 made it 20)


-Defense held Colts to 13. The offense could only muster 13 themselves (granted it would've been 16 if a FG is made)


-Defense played excellent in the Miami game (especially in the 2nd half). Guess what,, no turnovers allowed the Jags to win it with a FG.


-Defense scored 14 points (basically 21 points including a 3rd turnover very deep in Bills territory). Bortles pick 6 gave points away,, though that ball was an "up for grabs" situation.


Space just doesn't want to acknowledge these things. It's always the defenses fault.


I'd argue that PPG have gone up because the offense has given up quite a few pick 6's, fumble returns, short field turnovers.


But that's just me.
Quote:No,, he doesn't understand that. He truly doesn't.


** For the record,, I don't think the defense is good either. And I think Bortles will be very good.**


Space just keeps spouting PPG without realizing quite alot of those PPG are given up by pick 6's, fumble returns, and terrible short fields to defend.

That's all on the offense.


-Defense held Carolina to 13 points (Bortles pick 6 made it 20)


-Defense held Colts to 13. The offense could only muster 13 themselves (granted it would've been 16 if a FG is made)


-Defense played excellent in the Miami game (especially in the 2nd half). Guess what,, no turnovers allowed the Jags to win it with a FG.


-Defense scored 14 points (basically 21 points including a 3rd turnover very deep in Bills territory). Bortles pick 6 gave points away,, though that ball was an "up for grabs" situation.


Space just doesn't want to acknowledge these things. It's always the defenses fault.


I'd argue that PPG have gone up because the offense has given up quite a few pick 6's, fumble returns, short field turnovers.


But that's just me.
 

Great points, but 30 PPG! 
Feels like a pretty good year for INTs all around. Peyton/Luck/Stafford all have more than Blake(also less TDs) Bradford has the same amount and less TDs. Cousins/Newton/Tannehill/Flacco all have 8 or 9 INTs but also less TDs. Then comes Brees with 7 picks but he does have one more TD than blake.  For being as young as Blake is and how this team has played overall(our running game/Oline/Def) I say that he is in a pretty good place overall. Of course we still want him to cut the INTs down of course.

Blake isn't very smart


I have yet to encounter a guy who chews on his tongue who is actually smart.


Case in point - George the Animal Steele


Also notice how he frequently scratches during interviews



Blake will never learn from his mistakes


We got the short end of the QB stick *again*
Quote:Blake isn't very smart


I have yet to encounter a guy who chews on his tongue who is actually smart.


Case in point - George the Animal Steele


Also notice how he frequently scratches during interviews



Blake will never learn from his mistakes


We got the short end of the QB stick *again*
 

Wonderlic Score

 

Bortles- 28

Peyton- 28

 

 

His IMPROVEMENT this year and all 3 years in college prove he's intelligent. His interviews, leadership with teammates, and clutch 2 minute drives also prove he's intelligent. I don't see Carr, Teddy, or Jameis using the 2 minute warning any better than Bortles. It also proves you have no concept of what a great young QB looks like.

Quote:Blake isn't very smart


I have yet to encounter a guy who chews on his tongue who is actually smart.


Case in point - George the Animal Steele


Also notice how he frequently scratches during interviews



Blake will never learn from his mistakes


We got the short end of the QB stick *again*
I get it now...

 

mommy didn't love you enough. You really need the attention.
Quote:Blake isn't very smart

I have yet to encounter a guy who chews on his tongue who is actually smart.

Case in point - George the Animal Steele

Also notice how he frequently scratches during interviews

Blake will never learn from his mistakes

We got the short end of the QB stick *again*
You're calling someone dumb, then dropping a George the animal Steele reference? First off genius, the guy became a legend by acting foolish. Second, if you determine talent by toungue placement I've got three words for you-

Michael freakin Jordan!!!

As far as the scratching, I'm sure quite a few people read your posts while doing some head scratching.
Quote:Blake isn't very smart


I have yet to encounter a guy who chews on his tongue who is actually smart.


Case in point - George the Animal Steele


Also notice how he frequently scratches during interviews



Blake will never learn from his mistakes


We got the short end of the QB stick *again*
 

1. Are you saying Michael Jordan isn't intelligent?

 

2. I know George personally. He lives in Merritt Island and goes to First Baptist Church. He's pretty intelligent. Brighter than you.

Quote:No,, he doesn't understand that. He truly doesn't.


** For the record,, I don't think the defense is good either. And I think Bortles will be very good.**


Space just keeps spouting PPG without realizing quite alot of those PPG are given up by pick 6's, fumble returns, and terrible short fields to defend.

That's all on the offense.


-Defense held Carolina to 13 points (Bortles pick 6 made it 20)


-Defense held Colts to 13. The offense could only muster 13 themselves (granted it would've been 16 if a FG is made)


-Defense played excellent in the Miami game (especially in the 2nd half). Guess what,, no turnovers allowed the Jags to win it with a FG.


-Defense scored 14 points (basically 21 points including a 3rd turnover very deep in Bills territory). Bortles pick 6 gave points away,, though that ball was an "up for grabs" situation.


Space just doesn't want to acknowledge these things. It's always the defenses fault.


I'd argue that PPG have gone up because the offense has given up quite a few pick 6's, fumble returns, short field turnovers.


But that's just me.
 

You're defending a defense that can't stop ANYONE when the game is on the line. A defense that NEVER causes turnovers? The name of the game is POINTS FOR vs. POINTS AGAINST. The Patriots are consistently in the top 3 in this category and the Jags are constantly in the bottom 3. The reason? Our defense.
the troll is getting his clicks...

Quote:1. Are you saying Michael Jordan isn't intelligent?

 

2. I know George personally. He lives in Merritt Island and goes to First Baptist Church. He's pretty intelligent. Brighter than you.
Lol, beat you to the Jordan reference. Bet he doesn't respond.
he'll spin, or sweep, or trolololol

BB5 had 2 INTs against the Panthers.  Panthers scored 20 points.

 

On top of that...

 

MM has almost the same amount of turnovers as BB5 when you include fumbles lost...  And the tacks give up 1 full TD less than the jaguars.

 

Some PhD students who that think they understand numbers truly have no understanding of anything at all.

 

Morons...

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