(06-01-2020, 09:20 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 07:58 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Donald Trump really just had the police fire tear gas and rubber bullets at peaceful protestors in Washington D.C. to clear the streets for a photo op at a church he doesn't attend, with a book he's never read that teaches lessons he doesn't preach. Unbelievable.
Funny.
The same people going chicken little over Jade Helm and Fema camp conspiracy theories, the same people forming militias and flying don't tread on me flags are actually supporting this.
I don't want to hear jack [BLEEP] about patriotism or governmental overreach from them ever.
Sad. So sad.
(06-01-2020, 09:34 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 10:54 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ]Peaceful protests directed at the actual violators (in this case MPD and Minneapolis City Hall) seems to me to be the right approach. Are you justifying the use of violence because ____ ?
As far as Kaepernick is concerned, he expressed hatred for the whole United States of America rather than blame those responsible, and not just during the National Anthem but in lauding Castro's Cuba as being better than the US. He has the right to protest peacefully, but that doesn't protect him from the observation that he's a despicable idiot.
Complete horse [BLEEP].
He did no such thing-exoressing hatred towards the U.S.. He consulted a former Green Beret-Nate Boyer- on how to best express dissent on this issue and show respect to the military and the country. He was trashed.
The people who who show the hatred for this country are those righties flying nazi and confederate flags. You know...flags of entities that WAGED WAR AGAINST THE UNITED STATES AND KILLED AMERICAN SOLDIERS!
Of course, no condemnation from you or other righties. They are patriots. Very fine people as your fuhrer...president would say.
We mustn't tell lies Deloris
Out of interest does anyone actually believe Trump is remotely religious? That was all very odd.
(06-01-2020, 09:49 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 09:40 PM)Jagsfan4life9/28/82 Wrote: [ -> ]That’s partisan politics in a nutshell, to be fair. I view the left and right as two groups on opposite sides of the road, each side holding their signs. Whenever the occupant of the White House is replaced with someone from the other side, the two groups drop their signs, cross the street and pick up the other group's signs, then continue.
Right now, it's these so-called small government conservatives that support Trump who seem so comical. That they've vehemently argued states rights in the past, only to argue the opposite is absolutely hilarious.
That said, I'm not sure why the left is so sore over Trump's anti-capitalist, protectionist democrat tariffs.
You really should post more.
Particularly that last paragraph, the Trump fans also get very sore when you point out that Trump actually is economically not remotely a free marketer.
Too many people are entombed in tribalism. This leads to hypocrisy and decay of ideology. Not that a pure ideologue isn't without fault; pragmatism certainly has it's place. But anymore, I see people arguing against themselves from administration to administration.
(06-01-2020, 09:56 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Out of interest does anyone actually believe Trump is remotely religious? That was all very odd.
Who cares. Religion means different things to different people. Trump has been consistent talking about God, so who is anyone to question him?
(06-01-2020, 09:48 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 09:43 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]1. Not violate the Constitution-you know...the document you guys claim to revere.
2. Ensure the remaining three cops get arrested.
3. Let the states continue to impose and enforce the curfews.
The protests, while still active...are slowly dying down. This country has had several riots over the years without the President declaring the American people need to be "dominated," and that he would deploy the military in violation of the Constitution.
Are you saying Federal government overreach is okay now?
Should Trump use the fema camps you RWNJs were sp wprroed about?!?
By the way, the significance of him moving first on Washington D.C. is obvious.
1. Not a state
2. Full of blacks.
They are NOT enforcing the curfews. Turn on your TV if you don't believe me.
If state leadership refuses to do their job, then something has to be done.
NOW we are worried about the constitution all of a sudden?
Are you sympathetic to any of these hard working Americans who just lost their businesses and livelihood and will be [BLEEP] over by their insurance carriers when they try to rebuild?
Justice will come to the other 3 dirty cops.
99% OF THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT PROTESTORS!!!!!
They ARE enforcing the curfews. Not everyone is abiding by them and many are being arrested.
What happened to states rights? Isn't that a conservative thing?!?
I have always been concerned about the constitution...and not just the 2nd amendment, unlike righties.
I am sympathetic to those who lost their businesses. However, if the insurance companies screw them over, that's on the insurance companies. But more importantly, I do not prioritiize business interests over human lives.
There is a LONG history suggesting justice will NOT come to the cops who murder blacks (see Tamir Rice).
I agree that the people doing the looting are NOT the ones doing the protesting and the ones doing the protesting are NOT the ones doing the looting. In his zeal to "dominate" the streets, in no way, shape or form do I trust Trump (who encouraged all of this telling cops not to worry about being gentle with arrestees) to make those distinctions.
(06-01-2020, 09:58 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 09:43 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]1. Not violate the Constitution-you know...the document you guys claim to revere.
2. Ensure the remaining three cops get arrested.
3. Let the states continue to impose and enforce the curfews.
The protests, while still active...are slowly dying down. This country has had several riots over the years without the President declaring the American people need to be "dominated," and that he would deploy the military in violation of the Constitution.
Are you saying Federal government overreach is okay now?
Should Trump use the fema camps you RWNJs were sp wprroed about?!?
By the way, the significance of him moving first on Washington D.C. is obvious.
1. Not a state
2. Full of blacks.
P.S. Protesters are NOT terrorists.
Is everyone seeing this?
His TV must be stuck on CNN, because I am hardly seeing any protesters when the sun goes down.
(06-01-2020, 09:53 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 09:20 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Funny.
The same people going chicken little over Jade Helm and Fema camp conspiracy theories, the same people forming militias and flying don't tread on me flags are actually supporting this.
I don't want to hear jack [BLEEP] about patriotism or governmental overreach from them ever.
Sad. So sad.
(06-01-2020, 09:34 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Complete horse [BLEEP].
He did no such thing-exoressing hatred towards the U.S.. He consulted a former Green Beret-Nate Boyer- on how to best express dissent on this issue and show respect to the military and the country. He was trashed.
The people who who show the hatred for this country are those righties flying nazi and confederate flags. You know...flags of entities that WAGED WAR AGAINST THE UNITED STATES AND KILLED AMERICAN SOLDIERS!
Of course, no condemnation from you or other righties. They are patriots. Very fine people as your fuhrer...president would say.
We mustn't tell lies Deloris
Who is this "we?" Who is this "Deloris?" Not only do you have problems recognizing the rights of African Americans, you have pronoun and proper noun trouble, to say nothing of discerning fact from fiction.
(06-01-2020, 10:00 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 09:58 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]Is everyone seeing this?
His TV must be stuck on CNN, because I am hardly seeing any protesters when the sun goes down.
You choose not to see them.
But let the record reflect you are fine with Trump violating the Constitution.
(06-01-2020, 09:59 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 09:48 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]They are NOT enforcing the curfews. Turn on your TV if you don't believe me.
If state leadership refuses to do their job, then something has to be done.
NOW we are worried about the constitution all of a sudden?
Are you sympathetic to any of these hard working Americans who just lost their businesses and livelihood and will be [BLEEP] over by their insurance carriers when they try to rebuild?
Justice will come to the other 3 dirty cops.
99% OF THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT PROTESTORS!!!!!
They ARE enforcing the curfews. Not everyone is abiding by them and many are being arrested.
What happened to states rights? Isn't that a conservative thing?!?
I have always been concerned about the constitution...and not just the 2nd amendment, unlike righties.
I am sympathetic to those who lost their businesses. However, if the insurance companies screw them over, that's on the insurance companies. But more importantly, I do not prioritiize business interests over human lives.
There is a LONG history suggesting justice will NOT come to the cops who murder blacks (see Tamir Rice).
Bruh... Is Keith Ellison a Shill for white supremacists? Minneapolis has been dominated by the dems for what 50 years, more. Do you understand what you're saying?
I agree that the people doing the looting are NOT the ones doing the protesting and the ones doing the protesting are NOT the ones doing the looting. In his zeal to "dominate" the streets, in no way, shape or form do I trust Trump (who encouraged all of this telling cops not to worry about being gentle with arrestees) to make those distinctions.
Are you implying that trump encouraged the killing of George Floyd! Really? Is that the hill you want to die on? What happened to you man? You used to be better than this!
(06-01-2020, 10:02 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 09:53 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]Sad. So sad.
We mustn't tell lies Deloris
Who is this "we?" Who is this "Deloris?" Not only do you have problems recognizing the rights of African Americans, you have pronoun and proper noun trouble, to say nothing of discerning fact from fiction.
(06-01-2020, 10:00 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]His TV must be stuck on CNN, because I am hardly seeing any protesters when the sun goes down.
You choose not to see them.
But let the record reflect you are fine with Trump violating the Constitution.
Harry Potter and the Order of The Phoenix Quote. (#Gryffindor)
(06-01-2020, 10:05 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 09:59 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]They ARE enforcing the curfews. Not everyone is abiding by them and many are being arrested.
What happened to states rights? Isn't that a conservative thing?!?
I have always been concerned about the constitution...and not just the 2nd amendment, unlike righties.
I am sympathetic to those who lost their businesses. However, if the insurance companies screw them over, that's on the insurance companies. But more importantly, I do not prioritiize business interests over human lives.
There is a LONG history suggesting justice will NOT come to the cops who murder blacks (see Tamir Rice).
Bruh... Is Keith Ellison a Shill for white supremacists? Minneapolis has been dominated by the dems for what 50 years, more. Do you understand what you're saying?
I agree that the people doing the looting are NOT the ones doing the protesting and the ones doing the protesting are NOT the ones doing the looting. In his zeal to "dominate" the streets, in no way, shape or form do I trust Trump (who encouraged all of this telling cops not to worry about being gentle with arrestees) to make those distinctions.
Are you implying that trump encouraged the killing of George Floyd! Really? Is that the hill you want to die on? What happened to you man? You used to be better than this!
If Keith Ellison were the sole factor in a criminal trial, you MIGHT have had a point. To answer your question, I understand exactly what I am saying. I don't understand what YOU are saying, and I'm not sure you do either.
I am flat out stating Trump encouraged police brutality, and some of that brutality-as brutality is prone to do-will cross the line with tragic results.
Not that difficult to understand. At least for those with average intelligence, anyway.
(06-01-2020, 10:05 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 09:59 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]They ARE enforcing the curfews. Not everyone is abiding by them and many are being arrested.
What happened to states rights? Isn't that a conservative thing?!?
I have always been concerned about the constitution...and not just the 2nd amendment, unlike righties.
I am sympathetic to those who lost their businesses. However, if the insurance companies screw them over, that's on the insurance companies. But more importantly, I do not prioritiize business interests over human lives.
There is a LONG history suggesting justice will NOT come to the cops who murder blacks (see Tamir Rice).
Bruh... Is Keith Ellison a Shill for white supremacists? Minneapolis has been dominated by the dems for what 50 years, more. Do you understand what you're saying?
I agree that the people doing the looting are NOT the ones doing the protesting and the ones doing the protesting are NOT the ones doing the looting. In his zeal to "dominate" the streets, in no way, shape or form do I trust Trump (who encouraged all of this telling cops not to worry about being gentle with arrestees) to make those distinctions.
Are you implying that trump encouraged the killing of George Floyd! Really? Is that the hill you want to die on? What happened to you man? You used to be better than this!
(06-01-2020, 10:02 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Who is this "we?" Who is this "Deloris?" Not only do you have problems recognizing the rights of African Americans, you have pronoun and proper noun trouble, to say nothing of discerning fact from fiction.
You choose not to see them.
But let the record reflect you are fine with Trump violating the Constitution.
Harry Potter and the Order of The Phoenix Quote. (#Gryffindor)
Ahh. Never got into the HP films.
(06-01-2020, 10:10 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 10:05 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]Are you implying that trump encouraged the killing of George Floyd! Really? Is that the hill you want to die on? What happened to you man? You used to be better than this!
If Keith Ellison were the sole factor in a criminal trial, you MIGHT have had a point. To answer your question, I understand exactly what I am saying. I don't understand what YOU are saying, and I'm not sure you do either.
I mean he's only the states attorney General. From what I saw this morning, he just took over the case from the local prosecutor. You're right, at some point there is a chance (If Chovin is stupid) that this could go to trial in the district that elected Ilhan Omar.... Jury selection opened and closed on YouTube on this one. Where's your faith in your precious lefties? When Mark Fuhrman comes out and says this was slow motion homicide... I'll say this. If Chovin isn't sent to prison after a conviction on at least manslaughter then I'll write you 500 words on the back woods hick conservatives in Minneapolis.
I am flat out stating Trump encouraged police brutality, and some of that brutality-as brutality is prone to do-will cross the line with tragic results.
That's what I thought you said. Sometimes, when we feel things too deeply we allow our rational mind to go all mushy. It's ok. It happens to the best of us. For some, public events trigger grief, anxiety, even mourning as if they happened to them. I am just going to remember you as you were and chalk your current lack of reason up to hurting. Hey, just want to let you know. I'm here for you man. If you ever want to chop it up over a cup of hot coco I'm down.
In reality, most people know that there is a fine line between being gentle and giving a suspect a foot rub vs. putting your knee on a mans neck while people look on in horror as the life drains from his body. But like I said. That's only if you approach things objectively and like I said, you have your doctor's note.
Not that difficult to understand. At least for those with average intelligence, anyway.
So how would you know? (Sick Burn)
(06-01-2020, 10:05 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]Are you implying that trump encouraged the killing of George Floyd! Really? Is that the hill you want to die on? What happened to you man? You used to be better than this!
Harry Potter and the Order of The Phoenix Quote. (#Gryffindor)
Ahh. Never got into the HP films.
Bruh... You're missing it!
Watching Macys being looted right now. Glad they are following curfew.
What is President Cuomo doing ????
Am I watching The Purge? Jesus!
(06-01-2020, 10:25 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 10:10 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]If Keith Ellison were the sole factor in a criminal trial, you MIGHT have had a point. To answer your question, I understand exactly what I am saying. I don't understand what YOU are saying, and I'm not sure you do either.
I mean he's only the states attorney General. From what I saw this morning, he just took over the case from the local prosecutor. You're right, at some point there is a chance (If Chovin is stupid) that this could go to trial in the district that elected Ilhan Omar.... Jury selection opened and closed on YouTube on this one. Where's your faith in your precious lefties? When Mark Fuhrman comes out and says this was slow motion homicide... I'll say this. If Chovin isn't sent to prison after a conviction on at least manslaughter then I'll write you 500 words on the back woods hick conservatives in Minneapolis.
I am flat out stating Trump encouraged police brutality, and some of that brutality-as brutality is prone to do-will cross the line with tragic results.
That's what I thought you said. Sometimes, when we feel things too deeply we allow our rational mind to go all mushy. It's ok. It happens to the best of us. For some, public events trigger grief, anxiety, even mourning as if they happened to them. I am just going to remember you as you were and chalk your current lack of reason up to hurting. Hey, just want to let you know. I'm here for you man. If you ever want to chop it up over a cup of hot coco I'm down.
In reality, most people know that there is a fine line between being gentle and giving a suspect a foot rub vs. putting your knee on a mans neck while people look on in horror as the life drains from his body. But like I said. That's only if you approach things objectively and like I said, you have your doctor's note.
Not that difficult to understand. At least for those with average intelligence, anyway.
So how would you know? (Sick Burn)
Ahh. Never got into the HP films.
Bruh... You're missing it!
So you seriously assert a president's words has no impact on the thoughts and actions of citizens? That must come as a surprise to those who were inspired by Kennedy's "Ask not what your country can do for you" speech and went into various forms of public service. I mean, I guess you can be understood for not giving Trump credit for being able to influence people, considering he is unquestionably the LEAST eloquent, LEAST articulate president in modern history.
My words were not that difficult to understand with someone with at least average intelligence.
How would I know?
Because intelligence can be above average. A difficult concept for you, I'm sure.
By the way, "sick burn[ing]" your own botched jibe? Being your own hype man? Not a good look.
Just trying to help.
Re: HP, I don't know if somewhere in my subconscious I felt it too kids stuff or for some other reason, but I couldn't bring myself to get into it. I know I saw one (I think the first one). Just didn't do it for me. Marvel movies? "That [BLEEP] jus' be callin' me man, it be callin' me."
(06-01-2020, 10:37 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Watching Macys being looted right now. Glad they are following curfew.
What is President Cuomo doing ????
Am I watching The Purge? Jesus!
Tell you what he's NOT doing.
VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION or declaring war on American citizens!!!
(06-01-2020, 11:05 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 10:25 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]Bruh... You're missing it!
So you seriously assert a president's words has no impact on the thoughts and actions of citizens? That must come as a surprise to those who were inspired by Kennedy's "Ask not what your country can do for you" speech and went into various forms of public service. I mean, I guess you can be understood for not giving Trump credit for being able to influence people, considering he is unquestionably the LEAST eloquent, LEAST articulate president in modern history.
My words were not that difficult to understand with someone with at least average intelligence.
How would I know?
Because intelligence can be above average. A difficult concept for you, I'm sure.
By the way, "sick burn[ing]" your own botched jibe? Being your own hype man? Not a good look.
Just trying to help.
Re: HP, I don't know if somewhere in my subconscious I felt it too kids stuff or for some other reason, but I couldn't bring myself to get into it. I know I saw one (I think the first one). Just didn't do it for me. Marvel movies? "That [BLEEP] jus' be callin' me man, it be callin' me."
(06-01-2020, 10:37 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Watching Macys being looted right now. Glad they are following curfew.
What is President Cuomo doing ????
Am I watching The Purge? Jesus!
Tell you what he's NOT doing.
VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION or declaring war on American citizens!!!
You forgot to mention he is also NOT doing his job.
(05-31-2020, 02:05 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2020, 01:52 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Will allow the use of federal resources to go after the terrorist and maybe make Jimmy, who resides in his mom's basement think twice before brutalizing society.
white Christians in America have committed much worse domestic terrorism than antifa, maybe they should be dealt with first
You meant
radical white Christians, of course. Because the
average Christian, white or otherwise, lives the daily grind just as everyone else does.
(06-01-2020, 11:09 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 11:05 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]So you seriously assert a president's words has no impact on the thoughts and actions of citizens? That must come as a surprise to those who were inspired by Kennedy's "Ask not what your country can do for you" speech and went into various forms of public service. I mean, I guess you can be understood for not giving Trump credit for being able to influence people, considering he is unquestionably the LEAST eloquent, LEAST articulate president in modern history.
My words were not that difficult to understand with someone with at least average intelligence.
How would I know?
Because intelligence can be above average. A difficult concept for you, I'm sure.
By the way, "sick burn[ing]" your own botched jibe? Being your own hype man? Not a good look.
Just trying to help.
Re: HP, I don't know if somewhere in my subconscious I felt it too kids stuff or for some other reason, but I couldn't bring myself to get into it. I know I saw one (I think the first one). Just didn't do it for me. Marvel movies? "That [BLEEP] jus' be callin' me man, it be callin' me."
Tell you what he's NOT doing.
VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION or declaring war on American citizens!!!
You forgot to mention he is also NOT doing his job.
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of the
President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
"
Has Trump kept his inaugural oath?
Erm quick question, when did firing tear gas and rubber bullets at people become police policy?
Isnt it that kind of action that started this whole thing?
(06-01-2020, 11:15 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2020, 02:05 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]white Christians in America have committed much worse domestic terrorism than antifa, maybe they should be dealt with first
You meant radical white Christians, of course. Because the average Christian, white or otherwise, lives the daily grind just as everyone else does.
yeh id assume they are fairly radical if committing domestic terrorism
(06-01-2020, 11:54 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (06-01-2020, 11:09 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]You forgot to mention he is also NOT doing his job.
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of the President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
"
Has Trump kept his inaugural oath?
Yep
(06-01-2020, 11:58 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Erm quick question, when did firing tear gas and rubber bullets at people become police policy?
Isnt it that kind of action that started this whole thing?
No.
Crowd control and crowd disbursement is messy. When the Secret Service tells you to move YOU MOVE.
especially after 50 Secret Service agents were injured during ann assault on the whitehouse.