Quote:Because it doesn't count future games because it's acting as if the season is ending right now. Our SOS is weaker once you include future opponents.
So SOS doesn't include the results of games that haven't been played? That's so lame.
Quote:Well, except when theres a QB at the top of the draft such as Troy Aikman, Andrew Luck, Bridgewater and Peyton Manning...
Then the correlation indeed does become skewed in its favor....
But, but I know....you want you some of 'dem meaningless wins at the end of this dead season above all else....ALL ELSE!
Because we all know that the #1 QB pick is a hit, in every draft! Above all else, you're wrong.
Quote:Well, except when theres a QB at the top of the draft such as Troy Aikman, Andrew Luck, Bridgewater and Peyton Manning...
Then the correlation indeed does become skewed in its favor....
But, but I know....you want you some of 'dem meaningless wins at the end of this dead season above all else....ALL ELSE!
And you continue to rank him with Hall of famers, yet dont include Dan LeFevour? Remember him? I like Bridgewater, and if he came here I would not be upset at all. But I cant stand the way you come on, and bash anyone on here who wouldnt mind a win or 2 more, because it will prevent us getting the " next Aikman, or Manning". Are you using the same crystal ball that was used last draft when Geno was "that guy"? If not, I hope its not the same one you used when LeFevour was "that guy".
Quote:Well, except when theres a QB at the top of the draft such as Troy Aikman, Andrew Luck, Bridgewater and Peyton Manning...
Then the correlation indeed does become skewed in its favor....
But, but I know....you want you some of 'dem meaningless wins at the end of this dead season above all else....ALL ELSE!
Y'know, that's the second time I've seen you use Aikman and Manning in the same sentence as Bridgewater.
Do you REALLY think the kid is that good? I'm not being a smartarse, I really want to know.
As a prospect, do you think Bridgewater is in the same league as Peyton Manning?
Quote:Y'know, that's the second time I've seen you use Aikman and Manning in the same sentence as Bridgewater.
Do you REALLY think the kid is that good? I'm not being a smartarse, I really want to know.
As a prospect, do you think Bridgewater is in the same league as Peyton Manning?
Ill be honest with you, I think he is close. If he was 6'4 220, he would be considered on par with Luck probably better due to more arm talent
We would be in danger of not getting Teddy by beating the Texans this week that's for sure
Quote:We would be in danger of not getting Teddy by beating the Texans this week that's for sure
I think the Texans may fall in love with Keenum, thats fine. Ill take the better qb
Quote:I think the Texans may fall in love with Keenum, thats fine. Ill take the better qb
I hope they do. He's not very good.
Quote:Ill be honest with you, I think he is close. If he was 6'4 220, he would be considered on par with Luck probably better due to more arm talent
when luck and manning were in college they had a lot of hype especially in the media all throughout the season and seasons before, they were actually dubbed once in a decade qb prospects or something of that sort. as for teddy not so much, well expect from message boards. so yeah me and a few others are skeptic about him being paraded with those guys.
Quote:Because we all know that the #1 QB pick is a hit, in every draft! Above all else, you're wrong.
No, the #1 pick isn't a hit in -every- draft, thats why I listed Teddy with similar quality as himself. I didn't list Teddy in the company of the David Carr's of the world or the Tim Couch's or David Klinglers....they would be comparible to the Mariota's of the world.....
Quote:Y'know, that's the second time I've seen you use Aikman and Manning in the same sentence as Bridgewater.
Do you REALLY think the kid is that good? I'm not being a smartarse, I really want to know.
As a prospect, do you think Bridgewater is in the same league as Peyton Manning?
Yes I do. What is similar with all 3 of them is their command/ knowledge of the position and how they can manipulate defenses. If Teddy played with the kind of talent that Oregon has on offense (among a few others) it would be sick. Teddy is limited by his own team and his own coaching which often runs the ball as if its a badge of honor, forgetting that they have the best QB in the country.
Quote:Yes I do. What is similar with all 3 of them is their command/ knowledge of the position and how they can manipulate defenses. If Teddy played with the kind of talent that Oregon has on offense (among a few others) it would be sick. Teddy is limited by his own team and his own coaching which often runs the ball as if its a badge of honor, forgetting that they have the best QB in the country.
Running the ball was why they lost the ucf game
Quote:Yes I do. What is similar with all 3 of them is their command/ knowledge of the position and how they can manipulate defenses. If Teddy played with the kind of talent that Oregon has on offense (among a few others) it would be sick. Teddy is limited by his own team and his own coaching which often runs the ball as if its a badge of honor, forgetting that they have the best QB in the country.
So you think Teddy Bridgewater is the next Peyton Manning. Thanks for your honest answer, and I'm not going to beat you up over it just because I think he has a 1 in a thousand chance of being as good as Manning, who many are calling the best of all time. At least there's a chance.
This may make you feel better: the rest of the world has not recognized Bridgewater as the next Manning, or Luck, or Aikman, and has not even come close to hyping him as such. Even if the Jags win enough to pick outside the top 2, he may still be available.
Quote:So you think Teddy Bridgewater is the next Peyton Manning. Thanks for your honest answer, and I'm not going to beat you up over it just because I think he has a 1 in a thousand chance of being as good as Manning, who many are calling the best of all time. At least there's a chance.
This may make you feel better: the rest of the world has not recognized Bridgewater as the next Manning, or Luck, or Aikman, and has not even come close to hyping him as such. Even if the Jags win enough to pick outside the top 2, he may still be available.
Well, those are your words not mine - I'm not sure he'll have 60,000 yards in the NFL like Peyton (even Peyton never would have had that without having the great weapons he had for much of his career and coaches willing to let him sling the rock) , but his command of the position/ game deserves him to be mentioned with the THREE QB prospects I mentioned as a comparison. He's clearly a top level QB prospect and you are on DRUGS if you think Teddy Bridgewater will be available outside the TOP pick, let alone outside the top 2....and this is with a DE prospect in the SAME draft that many consider amongst the best DE prospects in a decade or 2.
The only way Teddy doesn't go 1 right now is if he suffers some sort of significant injury between now and the draft.
Quote:So you think Teddy Bridgewater is the next Peyton Manning. Thanks for your honest answer, and I'm not going to beat you up over it just because I think he has a 1 in a thousand chance of being as good as Manning, who many are calling the best of all time. At least there's a chance.
This may make you feel better: the rest of the world has not recognized Bridgewater as the next Manning, or Luck, or Aikman, and has not even come close to hyping him as such. Even if the Jags win enough to pick outside the top 2, he may still be available.
Bridgewater will be the #1 overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft.
Quote:Bridgewater will be the #1 overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft.
I mean, its pretty obvious to most people, right???
Quote:I mean, its pretty obvious to most people, right
Yes, he is the odds-on favorite, and it's not close. He's one of the best QB prospects in the last 10 years, if anyone thinks the Jaguars, Vikings, Texans, or any of the other QB-needy teams will pass on him for another prospect they are truly naive.
I think what hurts Teddy Bridgewater is the offense he plays in isn’t high powered like some teams. He doesn’t have that flash that people like to see but he has all the tools to be a top tier QB in the NFL. He plays within the game, playing smart and throwing the ball where only his receivers can make the play.
Quote:Yes, he is the odds-on favorite, and it's not close. He's one of the best QB prospects in the last 10 years, if anyone thinks the Jaguars, Vikings, Texans, or any of the other QB-needy teams will pass on him for another prospect they are truly naive.
Nightmare scenario is the Titans or Texans getting him, and it could happen - especially the Texans whose record is only one game better than us right now.
Quote:I think what hurts Teddy Bridgewater is the offense he plays in isn’t high powered like some teams. He doesn’t have that flash that people like to see but he has all the tools to be a top tier QB in the NFL. He plays within the game, playing smart and throwing the ball where only his receivers can make the play.
Thats because the Lousiville coaches run the ball as if its a badge of honor, and seemingly often forget they have the best QB in the country on their team. Even Simple Jack is smart enough to allow Peyton to do his thing, and not mess it up....
Quote:I think what hurts Teddy Bridgewater is the offense he plays in isn’t high powered like some teams. He doesn’t have that flash that people like to see but he has all the tools to be a top tier QB in the NFL. He plays within the game, playing smart and throwing the ball where only his receivers can make the play.
I don't think that hurts him at all, maybe in some of the fans eyes, I think Bridgewater can do whatever an offensive coordinator wants him to do. He has the arm strength and accuracy to be a productive player in any scheme, what's most impressive is his poise, eye level, pocket presences, and toughness, and those are things you simply can't teach.