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Quote:our team sucks and we ran out of things to talk about?

Jagz are badz!!!

Quote:Mr Seahawk bro has a bit of a reading comprehension problem.


Never said Hilton was bad and never called Richardson a bust.


Some QBs elevate the play if their receivers. Andrew Luck clearly does that.


I find it hilarious that you guys act like Luck got thrown onto some awesome team full of playoff caliber players. Like Wilson did.


Question for Mr Seahawks homer dude:


If you could keep your QB, and trade rosters with the Colts, would you?


Not in a million years, but keep telling yourself Luck has it so good, and Russell is surrounded by scrubs. Hilarious.

 

You said Hilton would be "average" on the Hawks. A point I disputed and proved false.

 

You said the Trent Richardson trade has been a disaster. Using the word disaster isn't far from using the word bust. Hopefully you can see why I drew that parallel. 

 

As far as changing rosters, I've already conceded that Seattle is better on the defensive side of the ball in an earlier post. 

 

You keep saying that Russell Wilson gets great field position because of the defense, but I have yet to see you back that up with actual evidence. I haven't seen much of that over the course of the last two seasons, but then again, I'm one of few Seahawk fans who thinks our defense is highly overrated. I've seen people throwing around how we are the #1 defense in the NFL, that simply isn't true.

 

I don't know who will be the better QB in 10 years, but right now, the stats are in WIlson's favor. Anyone who tries to dispute the facts likes to throw out generalities about "defense," and "field position," because they can't make a statistical arguments based off the numbers.

Quote:You said Hilton would be "average" on the Hawks. A point I disputed and proved false.


You said the Trent Richardson trade has been a disaster. Using the word disaster isn't far from using the word bust. Hopefully you can see why I drew that parallel.


As far as changing rosters, I've already conceded that Seattle is better on the defensive side of the ball in an earlier post.


You keep saying that Russell Wilson gets great field position because of the defense, but I have yet to see you back that up with actual evidence. I haven't seen much of that over the course of the last two seasons, but then again, I'm one of few Seahawk fans who thinks our defense is highly overrated. I've seen people throwing around how we are the #1 defense in the NFL, that simply isn't true.


I don't know who will be the better QB in 10 years, but right now, the stats are in WIlson's favor. Anyone who tries to dispute the facts likes to throw out generalities about "defense," and "field position," because they can't make a statistical arguments based off the numbers.

You didn't prove anything false. The statement I made about Hilton is an opinion on a hypothetical. Impossible to prove true or false. Also, average does not equal bad, but keep grasping.


If you don't consider the Trent Richardson deal to be a massive failure to this point, then there is no use arguing with you because clearly you are clueless.


Furthermore, show me one quote where I use the phrase 'field position' once in this thread. If I keep saying it as you suggest, it should be pretty easy to find a quote. I'll wait here.


You obviously have very little ability to watch a player play and make judgement on his skill level, and instead rely on stats to tell you the 'whole' story. Clearly Case Keenun is better than Tom Brady, because he's had better stats the last few weeks, right? RIGHT?!


I don't need to be told who is better by stats. I have two eyes and years of watching football. I also come to this debate with no bias, as the player I am backing doesn't play for my team. Such as yours, and you.

Quote:You didn't prove anything false. The statement I made about Hilton is an opinion on a hypothetical. Impossible to prove true or false. Also, average does not equal bad, but keep grasping.


If you don't consider the Trent Richardson deal to be a massive failure to this point, then there is no use arguing with you because clearly you are clueless.


Furthermore, show me one quote where I use the phrase 'field position' once in this thread. If I keep saying it as you suggest, it should be pretty easy to find a quote. I'll wait here.


You obviously have very little ability to watch a player play and make judgement on his skill level, and instead rely on stats to tell you the 'whole' story. Clearly Case Keenun is better than Tom Brady, because he's had better stats the last few weeks, right? RIGHT?!


I don't need to be told who is better by stats. I have two eyes and years of watching football. I also come to this debate with no bias, as the player I am backing doesn't play for my team. Such as yours, and you.

you said field position...  also this thread is hugely off topic.

 

Also andrew luck has beat Denver and Seattle, So he's clearly better than Wilson from the standpoint of leading their team down the feild to win. A lot of seattles wins this season were because of their defence, not the QB. All of the colts wins have been because of their qb.

Quote:you said field position...

Yeah. Show me. Quote it up.


Should be easy enough.

Quote:Yeah. Show me. Quote it up.


Should be easy enough.

it was a joke, cause u said feild position in your big post.. hence the reason i quoted it..  haha hehe ? lighten up a little.

 

also my edit after the attempted joke defended your point...

Quote:it was a joke, cause u said feild position in your big post.. hence the reason i quoted it.. haha hehe ? lighten up a little.


also my edit after the attempted joke defended your point...

Hahahehe, sorry. I did notice you defended my point.


Lightening up is probably not bad advice.

VIkings are the team we should worry about, they play only really good teams the rest of the season. I feel pretty confident all of the other teams will get up to at least 3 wins.

Quote:VIkings are the team we should worry about, they play only really good teams the rest of the season. I feel pretty confident all of the other teams will get up to at least 3 wins.

The Vikings have an excellent chance of beating the Packers tomorrow.

Quote:Lightening

IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU SAID! I SEENT IT!

Quote:The Vikings have an excellent chance of beating the Packers tomorrow.

 

True, forgot Rodgers was out. 

Another sub-par week for "the greatest prospect all time" in Andrew Luck, and another spectacular week for the best QB in the 2012 NFL draft class in Russell Wilson. 

Quote:Another sub-par week for "the greatest prospect all time" in Andrew Luck, and another spectacular week for the best QB in the 2012 NFL draft class in Russell Wilson.

Russell Wilson should win MVP

Quote:Russell Wilson should win MVP

He'll receive some votes, but Manning has that award locked up.

Manning will win it, but Luck is looking pretty average without Reggie.

Quote:Manning will win it, but Luck is looking pretty average without Reggie.

Luck looks below average without Reggie.

Quote:Luck looks below average without Reggie.

Luck is not living up to the next Peyton hype he recieved. Everyone was saying how luck and rg3 where the only elite QBs comming out of the draft and both are showing that they are nothing like the hype Wilson is far and away a myuch better QB then either of them. So if we are drafting dont believe the Teddy hype it could be a smoke screen. Remeber last year Gabberts stats were mostly better then lucks but the team got them to playoffs.

Quote:Russell Wilson should win MVP

No way, it's gotta be B. Anger.  That's why we drafted him ahead of R. Wilson

 

-Gene

Quote:No way, it's gotta be B. Anger.  That's why we drafted him ahead of R. Wilson

 

-Gene

To be fair Banger was drafted to be a starter and Wilson was drafted to be a backup.(Matt Flynn was paid$$$ to be the starter). But that is why you dont always have to go with QB in the first round if you have a good Scouting staff and GM you can find a good QB in later rounds. You just never know how good a 6th round QB couild be.

Title of this thread needs to be changed to "Race for the#7 overall pick