Quote:He actually hasn't. That's the point.
That's the funny thing. Luck right now after two years hasn't been much different than someone like mark Sanchez in his first two seasons. Except less playoff success. He already dug his heels in the ground with his luck schtick and anti Dalton so the opinion will never evolve, regardless of fact and actuality.
Quote:LOL, spin away.
It kills you that Luck is pretty much becoming everything he was hyped to become.
Umm.. no. From what I've seen... he's he hasn't improved on what his negatives were coming out of college (just as the ho-hum senior year he returned for without improvement.) He's good, but hasn't shown much improvement. It's possible he's already reaching his ceiling.
He overthinks the game and is baited into making mistakes he shouldn't.
Guess you can't argue against any of the facts I destroyed you with.
It's obvious the truth is killing you, since you're now just sidestepping arguments that have sunk yours and have resorted to making stuff up again, again.
Quote:That's the funny thing. Luck right now after two years hasn't been much different than someone like mark Sanchez in his first two seasons. Except less playoff success. He already dug his heels in the ground with his luck schtick and anti Dalton so the opinion will never evolve, regardless of fact and actuality.
Truth be told, Sanchez was much better in the playoffs early in his career. His early numbers were more Aikman than Dalton and Luck.
But he doesn't want to acknowledge that, either.
Hahahahahahahaha Sanchez better than Luck?
I can't stop laughing.
This forum delivers every time
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Quote:0-3 in the playoffs.
On his way to what? A losing/ "one who goes belly up in the biggest games" stigma??
So basically you are making fun of Luck too. As they have been equally mediocre in the playoffs
Quote:Hahahahahahahaha Sanchez better than Luck?
I can't stop laughing.
This forum delivers every time
yeah that one was a reach... I think it was more that Jet defense than anything Sanchise did.
Quote:Hahahahahahahaha Sanchez better than Luck?
I can't stop laughing.
This forum delivers every time
2009 mark Sanchez threw 4tds, 2ints, 60.3% completion and a 92.7 passer rating in 3 games.
2010 mark Sanchez threw 5tds, 1int, 60.7% completion and a 95.5 rating.
So seems like his numbers were similar or better than lucks in all categories to me...
Quote:2009 mark Sanchez threw 4tds, 2ints, 60.3% completion and a 92.7 passer rating in 3 games.
2010 mark Sanchez threw 5tds, 1int, 60.7% completion and a 95.5 rating.
So seems like his numbers were similar or better than lucks in all categories to me...
Hahahahhaa
This is just hilarious to me
Let's recap. Luck's first year they completely revamp the entire team by letting Manning, Clark, Garçon, etc..leave the franchise. They completely started over, including new coaches and a new GM. This is not a good situation for any new player to step into, and it doesn't matter what their previous records were-- it was a whole new regime and a whole new team.
Luck was surrounded by rookies in year 1, with the exception of Wayne. Rookie TEs, rookie receivers, and Ballard, a rookie RB is who he relied on. The defense was ranked bottom third in the league and there was no run game. He still won 11 games and made it to the playoffs, only to be criticized for not winning. The Colts had NO business being in the playoffs. They were so overmatched talent wise, but due to Luck they made it.
Year 2: Luck had a new offensive coordinator, a rookie OC, even though they have history together. It was clear that Pep was not ready for the NFL just yet. Luck improved his completion % and lowered his INTs down from 18 to 9. His #1 weapon, Wayne was lost for half the season, and his #1 TE for nearly the entire season. The defense still sucked and the run game was worse, and the O-line was amongst the worst in the league. He still took a below average team, talent wise, to the playoffs. With no run game, every team knew the Colts had to pass.
The comparison to Manning is asinine. Who would compare Manning now, to a rookie or second year player? It's stupid to do so.
Comparing Luck to Sanchez: who's team had better talent? A better run game? A better defense? Rex Ryan stated that all they wanted Sanchez to do is not screw it up, the defense would take care of the rest. Luck doesn't have that luxury.
Comparing Luck to Dalton: this is a fair comparison. Dalton really is a good QB but has had issues in the post season. The difference is that Dalton's team is arguably the most talented team, up there with SF and Seattle. He needs to step it up, whereas the Colts have arguably the least talent of all of the teams that made the playoffs and if not for Luck, wouldn't have made the playoffs.
Lastly, Luck has thrown for more yards in his first two years than any rookie QB in their first two years. He holds the record for most yards thrown by a rookie QB in a season. He holds the record for most yards thrown in a single game by a rookie QB. These are the types of things you would expect to see if a QB truly is special. Well, we are seeing it, but people would rather compare him to Manning, Rodgers, Brady, or Brees, all who have way more years of experience and can be considered among the best to ever play. Not fair to judge him by those standards.
Flash, logic around these parts don't work very well.
Imagine Blake Bortles leading the Jaguars to consecutive playoff appearances, relying on rookie and second year receivers, a horrible O-line, no run game, and a bottom third defense. In order to do that, it won't look pretty--how can it? He will not have the flashy stats. But Jags fans would know that what he was doing was nearly impossible.
That's how Colts fans feel about Luck.
Quote:Flash, logic around these parts don't work very well.
Actually, he made some good points.
Usually I don't allow logic, but I'll make an exception.
Quote:Actually, he made some good points.
Flash? Yes, I know this...
Quote:Imagine Blake Bortles leading the Jaguars to consecutive playoff appearances, relying on rookie and second year receivers, a horrible O-line, no run game, and a bottom third defense. In order to do that, it won't look pretty--how can it? He will not have the flashy stats. But Jags fans would know that what he was doing was nearly impossible.
That's how Colts fans feel about Luck.
Yeah it would be great if Bortles had Jimmy Smith to throw to and Tony Brackens put in a career best year
Quote:Imagine Blake Bortles leading the Jaguars to consecutive playoff appearances, relying on rookie and second year receivers, a horrible O-line, no run game, and a bottom third defense. In order to do that, it won't look pretty--how can it? He will not have the flashy stats. But Jags fans would know that what he was doing was nearly impossible.
That's how Colts fans feel about Luck.
He had Reggie Wayne his first season and a half. So stop with that only rookie and second year receivers crap.
Quote:Lastly, Luck has thrown for more yards in his first two years than any rookie QB in their first two years. He holds the record for most yards thrown by a rookie QB in a season. He holds the record for most yards thrown in a single game by a rookie QB. These are the types of things you would expect to see if a QB truly is special. Well, we are seeing it, but people would rather compare him to Manning, Rodgers, Brady, or Brees, all who have way more years of experience and can be considered among the best to ever play. Not fair to judge him by those standards.
He broke the record for most yards in his first two years that had been standing for all of one year. He broke Cam Newton's record. Wow.
Passing yards mean nothing these days anyway. Chad Henne can throw for 400. Flynn can throw 500. Luck is elite at breaking away from defenders and keeping plays alive his general play and decision making still needs a lot of work. His accuracy is also hot and cold
Quote:Actually, he made some good points.
Usually I don't allow logic, but I'll make an exception.
Well, the truth is the Colts success has been more attributable to luck (lowercase) than Luck the last two years.
http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/1/19...kiest-team
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<p style="margin-left:40px;">"Of course, such statistics are far from infallible, and history is not destiny. As proof one need look no farther than the 2013 second luckiest team, the <a class="" href='http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/indianapolis-colts'>Indianapolis Colts</a>, with 1.6 more wins than their Expected W-L would indicate. Which team was the 2012 "luckiest" team? The very same Colts, with a whopping 3.8 more wins than Expected W-L would indicate. So the Colts at least bucked the odds two years in a row. On the other hand, they also experienced a pronounced regression toward the Expected W-L number, as they shaved 2.2 wins off their "luck" in 2013."
Fools and trolls can deny it all they want, but that doesn't change the truth.
Quote:Truth be told, Sanchez was much better in the playoffs early in his career. His early numbers were more Aikman than Dalton and Luck.
But he doesn't want to acknowledge that, either.
Sanchez was 4-2 in the playoffs in 2009 and 2010.and boasted a 9/3 in TD/INT ratio.
Comparatively speaking...
Dalton is 0-3, 1/6
Luck isn't much better at 1-2, 6/8 (more INTs than TDs)
Numbers don't lie, but butthurt posters certainly do.
Quote:He had Reggie Wayne his first season and a half. So stop with that only rookie and second year receivers crap.
One more thing to add to this. After Wayne's injury, the Colts were 6-3. 5 of those wins were against Houston twice, Tennessee twice and The Jaguars once. The three losses were to St Louis by 30, to Arizona by 29 and to Cincinnati by 14. They also lost in the playoffs to New England by 21.