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Quote:Nobody has taken away his comeback win against Andy Reid and the Chiefs.


One of the best comebacks in NFL playoff history. Right up there with Frank Reich, Tommy Maddox and Jeff Garcia in terms of great comeback wins.
 

Problem is... his lone win still doesn't erase his otherwise relatively bad playoff record.
Quote:Well, he was one of the best QB prospects ever. He was one of the can't miss'tyiest prospects you'll ever get at that position coming out of the draft. Yes, there were a few others, too, but yes, so was Luck. 

 

I agree with the rest of your post. 

 

That comeback win in the playoffs last year did a lot to elevate Luck on the realtime QB totem pole. 
 

I think it did too. A lot of people say the Chiefs were depleted, but the Colts were too. Either way, a comeback that large in a playoff atmosphere is a very impressive feat.

 

I also think Luck does "more with less," than just about all of the young QB's out there. 
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I also think Luck does "more with less," than just about all of the young QB's out there. 
 

Most crucial point made. 
Quote:Most crucial point made.


BLC
Quote:BLC
 

Exactly.  That "point" was already shot down by the metrics illustrating it was more luck (lowercase) than Luck (uppercase.)  Someone's not keeping up.  Either by being slow, or just on purpose to cling to a flaccid opinion.

How on Earth do you measure luck? 

Maybe if you guys keep typing/saying Andrew Luck stinks it'll actually come true.

 

Actually, probably not.

Ah, so this 'luck metric,' measures how lucky a team is by looking at their point differential? I don't see how point differential directly translates into how lucky a team gets. The Colts were blown out a few times so that skewed things immensely. Doesn't mean they got lucky in every win they had.

 

In fact, the article pirk posted had a different interpretation of 'luck,' which it defined clearly:

 

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This is a very specific meaning of the term "lucky", wholly unrelated to any specific game circumstances or outcome.  When we say "lucky" here, we are simply referring to the difference between what a team with the Jets' point differential would historically have been expected to achieve in terms of total wins and what the Jets actually achieved, regardless of any individual plays, games, referee's calls, or other circumstances. 
 

So saying the Colts "got lucky," means pretty much nothing.

Quote:Ah, so this 'luck metric,' measures how lucky a team is by looking at their point differential? I don't see how point differential directly translates into how lucky a team gets. The Colts were blown out a few times so that skewed things immensely. Doesn't mean they got lucky in every win they had.

 

In fact, the article pirk posted had a different interpretation of 'luck,' which it defined clearly:

 

 

So saying the Colts got lucky means pretty much nothing...
 

 

Hence pirk's entire argument here, means pretty much nothing. 
Luck????? Pfft. Having a little bit of clot envy pirk?


If he played for the Jags you would be all over his jock and then some.
Quote:Luck????? Pfft. Having a little bit of clot envy pirk?


If he played for the Jags you would be all over his jock and then some.
 

Exactly....and its not just pirk. Theres a few of them...
Quote:Maybe if you guys keep typing/saying Andrew Luck stinks it'll actually come true.


Actually, probably not.


Nobody has said he stinks
Quote:Nobody has said he stinks
 

When there's no retort, make stuff up.  Some have turned it into an art form.  Not unlike monkeys flinging poo.  Which really is about what the "quality" of their posts are.
TMD why is his ypa so low then? That's how you measure qb's isn't it? So how can you objectively call him a top qb?
Quote:When there's no retort, make stuff up.  Some have turned it into an art form.  Not unlike monkeys flinging poo.  Which really is about what the "quality" of their posts are.
 

Does "Sanchez is as good as Luck" REALLY need a retort?

 

Keep typing it away. Maybe it will all come true some day.
Quote:Does "Sanchez is as good as Luck" REALLY need a retort?


Keep typing it away. Maybe it will all come true some day.


I dont think we will see much of you this year I'm afraid...
Quote:Does "Sanchez is as good as Luck" REALLY need a retort?

 

Keep typing it away. Maybe it will all come true some day.
 

Fact:  Sanchez has performed better in the playoffs than Luck.

 

Fact:  Luck is a far better QB than Sanchez, and it's not even close.

 

Care to unlatch from your strawman long enough to debate the facts I've presented instead of your imaginary concoctions?

 

Couldn't do that, that would require conceding truth.  Not your style.  Never has been, never will be.

 

There's simply no excuse for how poorly Luck has played in his playoff losses.  That just further reinforces the lowercase luck factor, that the team really wasn't playoff caliber.  Instead, it was an easier path than most due to a putrid division that spotted them six wins.

 

But carry on inventing other things that haven't been said.  Then you may have a chance.  Maybe.
Quote:TMD why is his ypa so low then? That's how you measure qb's isn't it? So how can you objectively call him a top qb?
 

That's the dirty secret they are too ignorant to see or are selectively sweeping under the rug.

 

He's nearly the statistical equal of Eli Manning across all metrics, the sole difference being Eli's ridiculous amount of INTs last season.
Quote:Nobody has said he stinks
 

I think we already established that "above average" and "stinks" mean the same thing in Andrew Luck units.  
My socks and shoes always match. Is it luck?