Quote:The lamest argument yet, we should choose an outsider no matter who he is.
The Emperor-to-be has no clothes.
not "no matter who he is", so you're misrepresenting my argument to make it "lame". classic straw man. bravo.
i simply support his proclaimed policies more than either democrat candidate, so it's an easy choice for me. the idea of him being a non-politician is just a bonus.
Quote:Inherited...
the amount he inherited is so small compared to what he turned it into
Quote:the amount he inherited is so small compared to what he turned it into
Doesn't seem to be any reliable figure on either...Plus it doesn't matter when you have a huge pot of money to play with it is a lot easier. Go ask your local small businesses what they had to put on the line at the start...can't afford bankruptcies
Quote:Doesn't seem to be any reliable figure on either...Plus it doesn't matter when you have a huge pot of money to play with it is a lot easier. Go ask your local small businesses what they had to put on the line at the start...can't afford bankruptcies
obviously, it's easier to make money if you have it to start with without borrowing. it's also pretty easy to lose it all.
ive heard the figure before on what he inherited. it's not much compared to his wealth now. somebody did an article on it saying if he invested in X then, then he'd have Y today.
May as well have President Kim Kardashian inherited loads of money. Is famous for a brand rather than any tangible product. Famous for being famous.
She's a great negotiator!
Quote:May as well have President Kim Kardashian inherited loads of money. Is famous for a brand rather than any tangible product. Famous for being famous.
She's a great negotiator!
This is kind of the reason I refuted the idea that he's simply a TV figure. He's much more than that.
So is Kim she's made loads more money than she started with. Therefore would be rich anyway.
Quote:Yeah, you're also not American so please stay out of this. Nobody here knows or cares about the politics of Holland or wherever you're from. But for some reason you're following so closely American politics. Very strange.
Actually, the world economy depends on what the U.S. economy does. Look at what happened to world markets when the housing/banking bubble burst in 2008. If you think that what happens in other nations isn't relevant, then you are sadly mistaken. Our economy depends on the economic health of other nations and vice-versa.
Quote:Rubio's campaign has really turned nasty. His donors must have threatened his future or something.
Actually the whole GOP side is getting ugly. It's come down to personal insults rather than policy. I'm starting to lean more towards Ted Cruz rather than Marco Rubio after the latest round of name calling. Although I do believe that Marco Rubio pointed out something that most don't pay attention to. Trump says (regarding health care) the "we will take down the line around the states and have a great plan". He didn't go into specifics and couldn't even give an idea about what the "great plan" is. I would rather Rubio's message be about his plan and his policy rather than talk about Trump's spray-on tan and little hands.
I happen to think that if Donald Trump is the nominee, we will have another Barack Obama; somebody with no political experience with no clue as far as how to run the country making promises that he can't keep. Donald Trump makes a lot of promises that people want to hear, but has no viable solutions to fulfill those promises. It's pretty much "hope and change v2".
Quote:It really speaks to the strength of the Republican field that Trump is a viable candidate for the GOP.
And Hillary for the Dems. You're right, we get a choice between a career crook and a sociopath who was a Dem for nine years as recently as 2009. There's a lot of talk, but when it comes to action there's little difference between the two ruling establishment parties.
It sure would be great if the Libertarian Party wasn't so incompetent.
Quote: Our economy depends on the economic health of other nations
Ok but Nederland could fall off the face of the Earth and nobody would care or notice. That's just a fact.
Also, he should probably just stay out of our business especially since he's no doubt a Bernie supporter. The worst thing for the world economy would be for the US to turn socialist.
Quote:not "no matter who he is", so you're misrepresenting my argument to make it "lame". classic straw man. bravo.
i simply support his proclaimed policies more than either democrat candidate, so it's an easy choice for me. the idea of him being a non-politician is just a bonus.
You support his "proclaimed policies."
As I said, duped.
Quote:Ok but Nederland could fall off the face of the Earth and nobody would care or notice. That's just a fact.
Also, he should probably just stay out of our business especially since he's no doubt a Bernie supporter. The worst thing for the world economy would be for the US to turn socialist.
It's a political forum, you have no business telling anyone to stay out of it. There's nothing magical about an American vs. (pick your country) point of view.
Quote:Actually, the world economy depends on what the U.S. economy does. Look at what happened to world markets when the housing/banking bubble burst in 2008. If you think that what happens in other nations isn't relevant, then you are sadly mistaken. Our economy depends on the economic health of other nations and vice-versa.
Although I do believe that Marco Rubio pointed out something that most don't pay attention to. Trump says (regarding health care) the "we will take down the line around the states and have a great plan". He didn't go into specifics and couldn't even give an idea about what the "great plan" is.
When you advocate for free-market healthcare, what kind of policy do you want? Do you want him to create a second ObamaCare or a new RubioCare where the government manages all the healthcare plans? I think the simpler the policy for healthcare, the better, and Trump said as much. Allow competition across state lines and let the insurance companies create their own healthcare plans. The only mandate Trump supports is a mandate for pre-existing conditions, which would likely be in the form of subsidies for either the customer or the company.
Quote:You support his "proclaimed policies."
As I said, duped.
One man's aligning of beliefs with another's has nothing to do with being "duped". If he gets into office and does exact opposite of the things I agree with, then that would be getting "duped".
And in any event, Obama voters should be the last to look down on others for being deceived.
Quote:It's a political forum, you have no business telling anyone to stay out of it. There's nothing magical about an American vs. (pick your country) point of view.
Well everybody just told me otherwise... American politics apparently is magical in the sense that all foreigners are interested in it. I personally have little care for who's running in Belgium's next election.
American politics is great light entertainment...
You don't get any policy, just meaningless slogans while flinging mud at each other. The debates are basically pointless, just pure personality politics.
Quote:American politics is great light entertainment...
You don't get any policy, just meaningless slogans while flinging mud at each other. The debates are basically pointless, just pure personality politics.
no you're cool. it's this "European Guy" that's really annoying.
Rubio is a sweaty mess. He comes off so phony that if he wins the nomination, I dint even know if I will vote. I dislike him that much, even more than Cruz, and that is saying a lot.
Quote:American politics is great light entertainment...
You don't get any policy, just meaningless slogans while flinging mud at each other. The debates are basically pointless, just pure personality politics.
You sound kind of salty. Our entertaining politics rule the world while Australia, well, just sort of exists. You make a good puppet for the US though. Very submissive.
Aussie politics pretty bad too don't get me wrong! Glad you get some kind of national pride out of having a more powerful military! You certainly pay enough from taxation...
I'd rather have higher living standards, higher wages, more time off, better health care and that's before the better beaches etc