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(12-10-2021, 12:02 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]It's really sad how Urban Meyer made a bad team even worse.

It's also sad to see fans pick and choose who they blame rather than be factual. 


Meyers a bad coach
Balkes a bad GM
Trevor (for the time being) is the worst starting QB in the NFL. 
Our entire roster lacks talent
Trading Jalen Ramsey was a mistake
Paying Blake Bortles to instigiate our good players leaving was a mistake
Drafting bums like Cj Henderson, Chaisson, was a mistake. 

This entire team is a mistake. Does Urban carry most of the blame? absolutely. Could Bill Bellicheck win with this team? doubt it.

Imagine if myer had been coaching minshew

Same results for both

He is ths issue

Minshew peaked his rookie year. Does anyone really believe Lawrence is peaking now?

Nothing screams facts like a Twitter graphic that can’t even accurately state how many games Trevor has played

(12-09-2021, 09:19 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]

Now do Minshews first 14 against Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning…..

(12-10-2021, 01:41 AM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ]Never have I seen someone so happy to see a first overall pick struggle on their own team.

He's only happy if he get to post a new thread.

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(12-10-2021, 08:14 AM)Craigukjag Wrote: [ -> ]Nothing screams facts like a Twitter graphic that can’t even accurately state how many games Trevor has played

preseason games, which are real

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(12-10-2021, 08:17 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-09-2021, 09:19 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]

Now do Minshews first 14 against Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning…..

How bout just contrast Minshew under Marrone to Minshew under Meyer. That should be an eye-opener.

How many of these games did Minshew have DJ Chark to throw to as opposed to Lawrence who had like 2 games before Chark was done for the year. Also what did Minshew do in preseason that outshined Lawrence so badly? don't get me wrong i'm a huge fan of the guy and i think trading him for that return was unwise, but I don't think we can compare apples to apples with the QB's here

(12-10-2021, 11:03 AM)Firesky Wrote: [ -> ]How many of these games did Minshew have DJ Chark to throw to as opposed to Lawrence who had like 2 games before Chark was done for the year. Also what did Minshew do in preseason that outshined Lawrence so badly? don't get me wrong i'm a huge fan of the guy and i think trading him for that return was unwise, but I don't think we can compare apples to apples with the QB's here

Really it has to do with coaching.

Urban sucks.. and I mean 0 out of 10 suckage. Maybe a negative number.

Marrone sucked too... but he was at least a 4 out of 10. He was a professional NFL coach.. unlike Urban who is a piece of garbage.

(12-10-2021, 11:03 AM)Firesky Wrote: [ -> ]How many of these games did Minshew have DJ Chark to throw to as opposed to Lawrence who had like 2 games before Chark was done for the year. Also what did Minshew do in preseason that outshined Lawrence so badly? don't get me wrong i'm a huge fan of the guy and i think trading him for that return was unwise, but I don't think we can compare apples to apples with the QB's here

I agree with a lot of what you said but I think Chark is very overrated.

(12-10-2021, 11:33 AM)FatimaJaguar Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-10-2021, 11:03 AM)Firesky Wrote: [ -> ]How many of these games did Minshew have DJ Chark to throw to as opposed to Lawrence who had like 2 games before Chark was done for the year. Also what did Minshew do in preseason that outshined Lawrence so badly? don't get me wrong i'm a huge fan of the guy and i think trading him for that return was unwise, but I don't think we can compare apples to apples with the QB's here

I agree with a lot of what you said but I think Chark is very overrated.

I think you're right but he would still be, far and away, the best WR on this team.

The Jags have the worst core outside of maybe Detroit and even their receivers are starting to make plays!

Gardner Minshew also had better stats than Peyton Manning, John Elway, Troy Aikman, Joe Montana,  and Terry Bradshaw.

(12-10-2021, 12:03 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Gardner Minshew also had better stats than Peyton Manning, John Elway, Troy Aikman, Joe Montana,  and Terry Bradshaw.

Wow, we had a Hall of Famer on our team and let him get away? 

(12-10-2021, 11:46 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-10-2021, 11:33 AM)FatimaJaguar Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with a lot of what you said but I think Chark is very overrated.

I think you're right but he would still be, far and away, the best WR on this team.

The Jags have the worst core outside of maybe Detroit and even their receivers are starting to make plays!

Very true.

(12-10-2021, 12:03 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Gardner Minshew also had better stats than Peyton Manning, John Elway, Troy Aikman, Joe Montana,  and Terry Bradshaw.

Well, now I'm convinced. We should fire those responsible for trading him away.

(12-10-2021, 02:35 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-10-2021, 12:02 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]It's really sad how Urban Meyer made a bad team even worse.

It's also sad to see fans pick and choose who they blame rather than be factual. 


Meyers a bad coach
Balkes a bad GM
Trevor (for the time being) is the worst starting QB in the NFL. 
Our entire roster lacks talent
Trading Jalen Ramsey was a mistake
Paying Blake Bortles to instigiate our good players leaving was a mistake
Drafting bums like Cj Henderson, Chaisson, was a mistake. 

This entire team is a mistake. Does Urban carry most of the blame? absolutely. Could Bill Bellicheck win with this team? doubt it.

Oh c'mon, Hoodie has at least 6 wins today if he'd been gifted the goodie bag Urbz was given this year.

(12-10-2021, 04:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-10-2021, 02:35 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]It's also sad to see fans pick and choose who they blame rather than be factual. 


Meyers a bad coach
Balkes a bad GM
Trevor (for the time being) is the worst starting QB in the NFL. 
Our entire roster lacks talent
Trading Jalen Ramsey was a mistake
Paying Blake Bortles to instigiate our good players leaving was a mistake
Drafting bums like Cj Henderson, Chaisson, was a mistake. 

This entire team is a mistake. Does Urban carry most of the blame? absolutely. Could Bill Bellicheck win with this team? doubt it.

Oh c'mon, Hoodie has at least 6 wins today if he'd been gifted the goodie bag Urbz was given this year.

Gotta agree.

He had Mac Jones throw three times and still won.

Think he wouldn't know how to use Trevor? Urban is just a moron.

(12-10-2021, 08:03 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Minshew peaked his rookie year. Does anyone really believe Lawrence is peaking now?

My instinct says no way. My concern is...maybe?

(12-10-2021, 05:40 PM)OMarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-10-2021, 08:03 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Minshew peaked his rookie year. Does anyone really believe Lawrence is peaking now?

My instinct says no way. My concern is...maybe?

He’s a single car in the middle of a train wreck right now. Better team, better player.

(12-10-2021, 05:40 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-10-2021, 08:03 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Minshew peaked his rookie year. Does anyone really believe Lawrence is peaking now?

My instinct says no way. My concern is...maybe?

This sums up how I feel perfectly. Just the thought of maybe concerns me.

https://twitter.com/PFF_NateJahnke/statu...28975?s=20

This is sad.