(12-10-2021, 11:33 AM)FatimaJaguar Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with a lot of what you said but I think Chark is very overrated.
Agreed
(12-10-2021, 07:13 PM)YouMadThough Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/PFF_NateJahnke/statu...28975?s=20
This is sad.
He hasn't been playing well along with the rest of the offense. He isn't the only to blame but part of the problem.
(12-10-2021, 07:13 PM)YouMadThough Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/PFF_NateJahnke/statu...28975?s=20
This is sad.
This is why I have complained to a small extent that we have gotten 1st and goal at the 1 twice in the last two weeks and ran it in right away. I get that it's a small complaint, but it would have been nice if they could have given Trevor a handful of attempts to get a few more TDs under his belt for confidence reasons if nothing else.
(12-10-2021, 05:40 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2021, 08:03 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Minshew peaked his rookie year. Does anyone really believe Lawrence is peaking now?
My instinct says no way. My concern is...maybe?
My only concern is that Khan will keep Urban around too long and Lawrence will leave and end up like Brees, winning Superbowls for a better coach while we spend years spinning our wheels.
He didn't suddenly go from being a 70% completion passer in college who won games when his team wasn't completely outmatched to being a guy that misses passes by the kind of margins we're seeing right now.
I've seen consternation about accuracy, but it seems to me his accuracy problems are probably more about bad line play keeping him from setting his feet along with bad offensive design not giving him a chance to find a rhythm. Plus, either the coaches are doing a bad job of getting him to understand the plays or Shenault doesn't understand the routes. My guess is it's Shenault since Trevor doesn't seem to have as many problems throwing the wrong route with our other receivers. Then, on to of that, add that no one on the offense is an elite athlete except for our rookie QB, and he's not the elite running kind of athlete. Then add to that the drops and the poor play calling and you've got a hurricane of suck that's managing to mess up a slam dunk opportunity.
(12-10-2021, 05:10 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2021, 04:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Oh c'mon, Hoodie has at least 6 wins today if he'd been gifted the goodie bag Urbz was given this year.
Gotta agree.
He had Mac Jones throw three times and still won.
Think he wouldn't know how to use Trevor? Urban is just a moron.
Week 1 would've looked just like that, not JRob riding pine and Trevor wearing out his arm.
(12-10-2021, 11:33 AM)FatimaJaguar Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2021, 11:03 AM)Firesky Wrote: [ -> ]How many of these games did Minshew have DJ Chark to throw to as opposed to Lawrence who had like 2 games before Chark was done for the year. Also what did Minshew do in preseason that outshined Lawrence so badly? don't get me wrong i'm a huge fan of the guy and i think trading him for that return was unwise, but I don't think we can compare apples to apples with the QB's here
I agree with a lot of what you said but I think Chark is very overrated.
How is Chark over rated and by whom?
With rookie Minshew at QB and healthy Chark was a very good WR.
No one ever has claimed he was a top 5 guy at his position but he's a legit #1.
You turd burglars seriously have a weird view on the NFL and this team.
We're missing Chark right now. Definitely not better without him sooooo.....
(12-10-2021, 07:23 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2021, 11:33 AM)FatimaJaguar Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with a lot of what you said but I think Chark is very overrated.
Agreed
(12-10-2021, 07:13 PM)YouMadThough Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/PFF_NateJahnke/statu...28975?s=20
This is sad.
He hasn't been playing well along with the rest of the offense. He isn't the only to blame but part of the problem.
Anytime this idiot agrees with you you should probably rethink your life
(12-11-2021, 02:10 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2021, 11:33 AM)FatimaJaguar Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with a lot of what you said but I think Chark is very overrated.
How is Chark over rated and by whom?
With rookie Minshew at QB and healthy Chark was a very good WR.
No one ever has claimed he was a top 5 guy at his position but he's a legit #1.
You turd burglars seriously have a weird view on the NFL and this team.
We're missing Chark right now. Definitely not better without him sooooo.....
(12-10-2021, 07:23 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed
He hasn't been playing well along with the rest of the offense. He isn't the only to blame but part of the problem.
Anytime this idiot agrees with you you should probably rethink your life
You sound a bit extreme. I think you’d be in the minority thinking that Chark is a legit #1.
(12-11-2021, 09:10 AM)FatimaJaguar Wrote: [ -> ] (12-11-2021, 02:10 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]How is Chark over rated and by whom?
With rookie Minshew at QB and healthy Chark was a very good WR.
No one ever has claimed he was a top 5 guy at his position but he's a legit #1.
You turd burglars seriously have a weird view on the NFL and this team.
We're missing Chark right now. Definitely not better without him sooooo.....
Anytime this idiot agrees with you you should probably rethink your life
You sound a bit extreme. I think you’d be in the minority thinking that Chark is a legit #1.
He has the size and stopwatch speed to be a true #1 receiver, seen him occasionally make really good catches, too, but he's not played at true #1level so far.
The "GOLDEN BOY" with a great 0 td 4int game to add to his resume.
(12-12-2021, 04:47 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]The "GOLDEN BOY" with a great 0 td 4int game to add to his resume.
Definitely not making a case to be a franchise QB or even a decent QB. At this point, he looks pretty lost. I hope with new coaching, he can get it turned around.
(12-12-2021, 04:47 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]The "GOLDEN BOY" with a great 0 td 4int game to add to his resume.
Again, you are downright gleeful that our QB is struggling. Wth is wrong with you.
Urban works his magic and manages to turn a talent into a dung heap
Tlaw down real bad on confidence atm
(12-11-2021, 09:10 AM)FatimaJaguar Wrote: [ -> ] (12-11-2021, 02:10 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]How is Chark over rated and by whom?
With rookie Minshew at QB and healthy Chark was a very good WR.
No one ever has claimed he was a top 5 guy at his position but he's a legit #1.
You turd burglars seriously have a weird view on the NFL and this team.
We're missing Chark right now. Definitely not better without him sooooo.....
Anytime this idiot agrees with you you should probably rethink your life
You sound a bit extreme. I think you’d be in the minority thinking that Chark is a legit #1.
He is a player fan not a team fan.
Ignore works perfect.
(12-12-2021, 04:56 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2021, 04:47 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]The "GOLDEN BOY" with a great 0 td 4int game to add to his resume.
Definitely not making a case to be a franchise QB or even a decent QB. At this point, he looks pretty lost. I hope with new coaching, he can get it turned around.
This is sad. Week one, I saw a confident gun slinging franchise QB that had a lot to learn. Now I see a kid that has poor footwork, his passes look like they lack conviction, he's not reading or seeing coverage and he's frankly a lot less athletic than I anticipated.
One of the few critiques of him that I saw coming out of school spoke to how he responds when you have pressure up the middle or when he starts off in an empty formation. Today we couldn't block their interior pass rush and Trev never set his feet or climbed the pocket. Shame on Beval. On consecutive plays Norwell gets flagged for holding on simmons, The vey next play we come out in an empty formation and that leads to the second interecption.
This team CANNOT pay attention to posessional leverage or the score. We can't have 7 rush yards in the middle of the second quarter. This o-line, this qb and these receievers aren't good enough to keep overcoming 2nd and 10 2nd and 14 3rd and 9 etc. Run the BALL!
(12-12-2021, 04:57 PM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2021, 04:47 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]The "GOLDEN BOY" with a great 0 td 4int game to add to his resume.
Again, you are downright gleeful that our QB is struggling. Wth is wrong with you.
Pointing out the obvious and also stating he may not be the franchise QB. We may need to find a backup plan.
Would I love him to be the guy? Sure. The fact is he is looking just horrendous and there isn't much positives to take away from his performances as of late.
This was by far his worst individual performance since the season opener decision making wise.
No running game today. No pass protection. Too many penalties as well. None of those factors helped.
However, he has to keep his [BLEEP] together and make better decisions with the football. He failed miserably at this today.
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Nobody can say right now Trevor Lawrence is our franchise QB honesty right now. They can blindly say it but if you look at his body of work one has to worry.
All this excuse making for Lawrence is just making the inevitable backlash on him when there is no longer any way that even the densest mark cannot suspend an admission of reality and admits the kid can't play a lick
Which is too bad, since he seems like a decent guy.
(12-12-2021, 05:06 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]This was by far his worst individual performance since the season opener decision making wise.
No running game today. No pass protection. Too many penalties as well. None of those factors helped.
However, he has to keep his [BLEEP] together and make better decisions with the football. He failed miserably at this today.
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On the Third INT Mickens breaks wide open about 2 seconds into the play. 1.) Jawaan Taylor gets beat. 2.) Lawrence actually evades the pressure. He then takes another second while scrambling to make the throw and allows the backside safety to gain more than 20 yards of ground the be relevant in the play. If he throws a BAD BALL as soon as he gets clear of the defender its an uncontested 30 plus yard gain. If he leads him to the center of the field with a decent ball its probably a TD. We turn that advantage into an interception and the games over.