(01-02-2022, 04:54 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2022, 04:49 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]As I said in the game thread. It's very obvious who does and doesn't watch football when they continue to say that isn't a catchable ball. Every QB makes that throw, every single week, the difference is their receivers catch it and ours don't.
Yeah, you haven't watched Lawrence. That much is clear.
Oh I watch Lawrence, the difference is that I know to actually look at everything full circle and not just Lawrence. There's a lot that goes on, on a football field beyond just the QB. You do know there's 10 other guys on Offense besides him right?
(01-02-2022, 04:55 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Another stellar game for the Golden boy. 193 yards passing, 3 ints, 1 Td from a screen pass. Simply horrendous. Only a Jaguar fan can defend this.
Yeah, it's all his fault. It's a one man team and Lawrence just isn't good enough.
(01-02-2022, 04:51 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2022, 04:49 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]This 100%, ball placement is everything in the NFL and Trevor just doesn't put it "there" enough. But let the teal glasses boys have their win, it certainly is "catchable" but would have gone nowhere anyway because the ball placement was atrocious.
Ah the Eagles' game must have just ended huh? Minshew do a fine job holding the clip board again today?
(01-02-2022, 04:51 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]It's catchable dude, I dont think anyone would argue that, the problem is the placement of the pass being so bad that the receiver has to adjust so much to catch it.. Meaning he can't just get up field and gain yards asap. Its still a bad throw... he catches it he gains a yard... Understand?
Or he catches it, makes a guy miss and takes it 15 yards. You know, what other teams do routinely every Sunday.
After watching jones hit wide open receivers and get praise, and reading posters critique lawrence while throwing to dbs basically coddling our receivers till the pass is thrown, i just laugh and move on.
Any competent NFL mind would see that and only trolls and fools would chose to make that hill a home.
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(01-02-2022, 04:51 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2022, 04:49 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]This 100%, ball placement is everything in the NFL and Trevor just doesn't put it "there" enough. But let the teal glasses boys have their win, it certainly is "catchable" but would have gone nowhere anyway because the ball placement was atrocious.
Ah the Eagles' game must have just ended huh? Minshew do a fine job holding the clip board again today?
(01-02-2022, 04:51 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]It's catchable dude, I dont think anyone would argue that, the problem is the placement of the pass being so bad that the receiver has to adjust so much to catch it.. Meaning he can't just get up field and gain yards asap. Its still a bad throw... he catches it he gains a yard... Understand?
Or he catches it, makes a guy miss and takes it 15 yards. You know, what other teams do routinely every Sunday.
Ok so post 1, no it wasn't I don't even have any game on right now, but I can watch the highlight.. I watch the all 22 every week though and can tell you that Minshew has put together in 1 game more in terms of scoring than Trevor has in 10 weeks. So suck on that one... BTW it makes me so warm and fuzzy knowing just how upset it makes you that Minshew is a better QB than TL.
Anyways, your theory is pure speculation after the catch, but if you watch the defenders he was getting crushed for a 1/2 yard gain because he was halfway in the air and trying to adjust for a bad, catchable, ball... So I mean we can live on pure hypothetical situations, but I prefer reality and realistic outcomes. That play was 100% dead on arrival. I mean you would make a better point to say they could live to play another down or it helps TL turnover stats, but that might be a little too close to reality for you.
(01-02-2022, 04:57 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2022, 04:54 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, you haven't watched Lawrence. That much is clear.
Oh I watch Lawrence, the difference is that I know to actually look at everything full circle and not just Lawrence. There's a lot that goes on, on a football field beyond just the QB. You do know there's 10 other guys on Offense besides him right?
I'm sure you think you're funny.
(01-02-2022, 05:01 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2022, 04:51 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Ah the Eagles' game must have just ended huh? Minshew do a fine job holding the clip board again today?
Or he catches it, makes a guy miss and takes it 15 yards. You know, what other teams do routinely every Sunday.
Ok so post 1, no it wasn't I don't even have any game on right now, but I can watch the highlight.. I watch the all 22 every week though and can tell you that Minshew has put together in 1 game more in terms of scoring than Trevor has in 10 weeks. So suck on that one... BTW it makes me so warm and fuzzy knowing just how upset it makes you that Minshew is a better QB than TL.
Anyways, your theory is pure speculation after the catch, but if you watch the defenders he was getting crushed for a 1/2 yard gain because he was halfway in the air and trying to adjust for a bad, catchable, ball... So I mean we can live on pure hypothetical situations, but I prefer reality and realistic outcomes. That play was 100% dead on arrival. I mean you would make a better point to say they could live to play another down or it helps TL turnover stats, but that might be a little too close to reality for you.
Ok so you just said you didn't even have any games on, yet want to give your opinion of a game/plays you aren't even watching.. Sounds about right. And yup Minshew was so good he went right back to the bench
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Comedy.
(01-02-2022, 05:01 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2022, 04:51 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Ah the Eagles' game must have just ended huh? Minshew do a fine job holding the clip board again today?
Or he catches it, makes a guy miss and takes it 15 yards. You know, what other teams do routinely every Sunday.
Ok so post 1, no it wasn't I don't even have any game on right now, but I can watch the highlight.. I watch the all 22 every week though and can tell you that Minshew has put together in 1 game more in terms of scoring than Trevor has in 10 weeks. So suck on that one... BTW it makes me so warm and fuzzy knowing just how upset it makes you that Minshew is a better QB than TL.
Anyways, your theory is pure speculation after the catch, but if you watch the defenders he was getting crushed for a 1/2 yard gain because he was halfway in the air and trying to adjust for a bad, catchable, ball... So I mean we can live on pure hypothetical situations, but I prefer reality and realistic outcomes. That play was 100% dead on arrival. I mean you would make a better point to say they could live to play another down or it helps TL turnover stats, but that might be a little too close to reality for you.
Stop the minshew nonsense. You should know no NFL HC or OC would start minshew over Trevor healthy on any week. No one believes you believe that fr. At least reapectfully.
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(01-02-2022, 05:06 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2022, 05:01 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]Ok so post 1, no it wasn't I don't even have any game on right now, but I can watch the highlight.. I watch the all 22 every week though and can tell you that Minshew has put together in 1 game more in terms of scoring than Trevor has in 10 weeks. So suck on that one... BTW it makes me so warm and fuzzy knowing just how upset it makes you that Minshew is a better QB than TL.
Anyways, your theory is pure speculation after the catch, but if you watch the defenders he was getting crushed for a 1/2 yard gain because he was halfway in the air and trying to adjust for a bad, catchable, ball... So I mean we can live on pure hypothetical situations, but I prefer reality and realistic outcomes. That play was 100% dead on arrival. I mean you would make a better point to say they could live to play another down or it helps TL turnover stats, but that might be a little too close to reality for you.
Stop the minshew nonsense. You should know no NFL HC or OC would start minshew over Trevor healthy on any week. No one believes you believe that fr. At least reapectfully.
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(01-02-2022, 05:06 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2022, 05:01 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]Ok so post 1, no it wasn't I don't even have any game on right now, but I can watch the highlight.. I watch the all 22 every week though and can tell you that Minshew has put together in 1 game more in terms of scoring than Trevor has in 10 weeks. So suck on that one... BTW it makes me so warm and fuzzy knowing just how upset it makes you that Minshew is a better QB than TL.
Anyways, your theory is pure speculation after the catch, but if you watch the defenders he was getting crushed for a 1/2 yard gain because he was halfway in the air and trying to adjust for a bad, catchable, ball... So I mean we can live on pure hypothetical situations, but I prefer reality and realistic outcomes. That play was 100% dead on arrival. I mean you would make a better point to say they could live to play another down or it helps TL turnover stats, but that might be a little too close to reality for you.
Stop the minshew nonsense. You should know no NFL HC or OC would start minshew over Trevor healthy on any week. No one believes you believe that fr. At least reapectfully.
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Hes bashed Trevor from the moment we locked up the #1 overall pick, because he knew it meant that his boy Minshew was as good as done here.
(01-02-2022, 05:08 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2022, 05:06 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: [ -> ]Stop the minshew nonsense. You should know no NFL HC or OC would start minshew over Trevor healthy on any week. No one believes you believe that fr. At least reapectfully.
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Hes bashed Trevor from the moment we locked up the #1 overall pick, because he knew it meant that his boy Minshew was as good as done here.
You are so full of [BLEEP] it's hilarious to come here, you are legit 1 of the only reasons I even check in here. Your takes are hilariously pathetic and your memory apparently is too... I have always said this team's success will ride or die on Trevor's play, because there is no one else on this team worth a damn on offense. TL plays like [BLEEP], and we are a 2 win team... Amazing how that works... Somehow having a reasonable take on the season and our QB = bashing TL since we locked in the 1st overall pick? You have me confused for someone else, or something. Either way idc carry on, you're my entertainment here.
*Correction : James Robinson is a good back. I'm sorry I forgot about him, but that's about it.
(01-02-2022, 05:08 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2022, 05:06 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: [ -> ]Stop the minshew nonsense. You should know no NFL HC or OC would start minshew over Trevor healthy on any week. No one believes you believe that fr. At least reapectfully.
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Hes bashed Trevor from the moment we locked up the #1 overall pick, because he knew it meant that his boy Minshew was as good as done here.
I guess Philly needs to fire their HC and OC for sitting such a talent.
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(01-02-2022, 05:11 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2022, 05:08 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Hes bashed Trevor from the moment we locked up the #1 overall pick, because he knew it meant that his boy Minshew was as good as done here.
You are so full of [BLEEP] it's hilarious to come here, you are legit 1 of the only reasons I even check in here. Your takes are hilariously pathetic and your memory apparently is too... I have always said this team's success will ride or die on Trevor's play, because there is no one else on this team worth a damn on offense. TL plays like [BLEEP], and we are a 2 win team... Amazing how that works... Somehow having a reasonable take on the season and our QB = bashing TL since we locked in the 1st overall pick? You have me confused for someone else, or something. Either way idc carry on, you're my entertainment here.
*Correction : James Robinson is a good back. I'm sorry I forgot about him, but that's about it.
You have been bashing Trevor and riding Minshew's jock from the start lol.
But it's nice to see all my fans coming out though
(01-02-2022, 05:11 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2022, 05:08 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Hes bashed Trevor from the moment we locked up the #1 overall pick, because he knew it meant that his boy Minshew was as good as done here.
You are so full of [BLEEP] it's hilarious to come here, you are legit 1 of the only reasons I even check in here. Your takes are hilariously pathetic and your memory apparently is too... I have always said this team's success will ride or die on Trevor's play, because there is no one else on this team worth a damn on offense. TL plays like [BLEEP], and we are a 2 win team... Amazing how that works... Somehow having a reasonable take on the season and our QB = bashing TL since we locked in the 1st overall pick? You have me confused for someone else, or something. Either way idc carry on, you're my entertainment here.
*Correction : James Robinson is a good back. I'm sorry I forgot about him, but that's about it.
The fact that you even took time to think this season had anything to do with Trevor regardless of everything else at play, killed all hope from jump. No QB, no matter who they are, will lead a team of scrubs and misfits with bad coaching and playcalling anywhere. Hell they cant even catch half the dropped passes to help the situation even slightly.
I have a hard time barely thinking football logic reading these hot takes. A QB, 1 player will lead a team to even 5 to 7 wins against poor coaching, teammates, and basically 1 vs 11 plus opposing coaching staff every week. Can he call his own plays and pick his own teammates or is this just your take on a Good to great QBs baseline on what he should accomplish?
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The Minshew Vs. Lawrence argument is null and void at this point. Coulda, woulda, shoulda. It's over.
The most often overlooked argument though when it came to Minshew Vs. Lawrence is that Minshew was in the driver seat back in 2020.
He had 9 opportunities in 2020 to prevent Lawrence from even being here in 2021 and he had 9 opportunities to save Marrone's [BLEEP] as well as Caldwell's.
Could have been different maybe had Caldwell went Wirfs over Henderson and Jefferson over Chaisson. And, admittedly. I didn't know who the [BLEEP] Henderson and Chaisson were on opening night. But, again. Coulda, woulda, shoulda.
He failed. Just like everybody has failed over the last 10 [BLEEP] years with Khan's ownership. 2017 was a fluke. All we can hope for is a clean sweep and a competent HC and GM pairing in the next few weeks are hired.
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Maybe we can get Trevor a better WR for next weeks game. Looks like Antonio Brown is no longer a Buc. Let's bring him in for the last game of the season. What's the worst that can happen? LOL
It's funny watching those two user IDs go at it. It's like Spock and Evil Spock or Spy vs Spy up in here.
Name a player who looks better this year than last? If its more than 1 or 2 players, maybe it’s coaching/scheme. J Allen, Jack, Shenault. Even Mr. consistent with the Lions in Jones Jr. The WR core looked like an up and coming group under McCardell, now they look lost.
(01-02-2022, 05:36 PM)Jags239 Wrote: [ -> ]Name a player who looks better this year than last? If its more than 1 or 2 players, maybe it’s coaching/scheme. J Allen, Jack, Shenault. Even Mr. consistent with the Lions in Jones Jr. The WR core looked like an up and coming group under McCardell, now they look lost.
None of them. There's not a single player still on this roster from last year who looks improved. They've all gotten worse this year.
Jack has been terrible in this Defense. Shenault regressed big time. Allen hasn't did anything since the Bills game and he didn't do much before that game either.
This team has only gotten worse from last year and that's saying a lot.
(01-02-2022, 05:23 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe we can get Trevor a better WR for next weeks game. Looks like Antonio Brown is no longer a Buc. Let's bring him in for the last game of the season. What's the worst that can happen? LOL
If nothing else, it would be interesting to see what new way he comes up with to melt down. He set the bar pretty high this week. Knowing the effect this team is having on players it would probably be biblical.
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Trevor Lawrence doesn't get the benefit of playing with talent like Kristian Wilkerson
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