One poster defends the coaches and the other defends the rookie. Poster number 1 also identifies that it could be a problem for the qb rookie if he's surrounded by other rookies.
(10-27-2014, 10:49 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Yes.
Why did they throw him in? I really would like to hear from the coaches on their reasons. I guess they know they have time to rebuild and have that luxury.
Shad is slick. He knows long time fans and ticket holders are getting tired of years of nothing but promises. But the attractions bring in new fans, including those from the opposing team.
It gets old waiting for " next year" . This year was " next year". Any signs of playoff hopes? When the D shows up the Offense flounders. Then visa versa. Frustrating. Next year? Any bets we don't sniff the playoffs? Hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't put bets on it.
Guess its 2017 then.
Jobes patience would be tested. The quest for new, young fans therefore is the priority.
Year 3 has always been the year from the minute they were hired and further stated when they insinuated that the QB wouldn't play this year. They put him in because Henne was catastrophic when they thought he would be adequate, and it was more than the franchise could bear after 2 weeks.
BB5 has the classic problem all rookies do, the game speed is beyond his ability to process it at times, and when that happens his mechanics flounder. The good thing is that he's made some really athletic plays at some of those times that show he's got the whole package if he can learn to use it all.
He also has the disadvantage of playing with other rooks who have the same problems and that, as management originally thought, could hinder his development this year.
The best part for us is that he's already good enough to overcome some of these issues at times, he just needs more playing time to put it all together.
jaguarmvp Wrote:
Here is the bottom line. If you put Manning or Brady behind this offensive line they would struggle as well. If your line isn't good your offense won't be good. We have maybe the worst line in the NFL. Sorry but put any HOFer behind this line and they struggle.
(12-08-2021, 02:31 PM)Jagswillwin Wrote: [ -> ] (12-08-2021, 02:25 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Time to save Lawrence both physically and psychologically!
What's the point in playing him if he's not progressing?
He's regressing because of the coaching, scheme, gameplan and lack of talent around him.
He's being thrown to the wolves.
Throwing Beathard to the wolves won't be any different.
Might save Trevor from further injury, but... it won't alter the season or W/L column.
This staff has ruined any chance of that.
Your initial point was winning games.
I addressed that
Are you changing the focus of the thread?
(12-08-2021, 02:40 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]You will win at least one more game guaranteed!
A team prepares for Lawrence and gets Beathard. That alone should get you a win.
We've tried everything else!
WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE!
Your initial point was winning games.
I addressed that
Are you changing the focus of the thread?
More important than Law's confidence is the rest of the team's. If they have started to believe he's a bust instead of agreeing he's wonderful and they all suck, then his road back is even further. If CJ starts and the results are no different then it is settled. If CJ does well then Lawrence has a model to follow. Time to make the switch.
(12-06-2021, 01:16 AM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] (12-06-2021, 12:03 AM)JagsorDie Wrote: [ -> ]Thing is, you digging your heels in and swinging in the opposite direction is no different from what the people you are throwing shade at are doing.
Just because you jumped ship and think it makes you some realist or in your mind smarter than others because you take some [BLEEP] pleasure in taking shots at a struggling qb during his rookie season on a [BLEEP] team that is having growing pains, doesn’t mean everyone one has to agree with you.
But take a Look at the people who are completely agreeing with you, they are either the complete d-bags of the board or obvious trolls. If That’s the kind of [BLEEP] company you like than have at it. But the whole condescending bull [BLEEP] is weak as [BLEEP]. Really no reason for it.
It’s like you are getting some pleasure out of seeing him struggle. Maybe so you can play the I told you so card or some [BLEEP] idk. Keep running with your narrative and make a few more [BLEEP] threads. Drive a few more posters away and then you will have the whole place to yourself. Keep fighting the good fight lol
Yes I am smarter than most on this board. My track record of being ahead of the curb proves that.
Bwahaha, statement of the year!!!
Last thing you want to do is put cj in there and have him light it up. You just have to give the rookie time to figure it out
C.J. Beathard over Trevor Lawrence. Man, the losing just turns some people's brains to brine.
Trevor Lawrence lobbies for James Robinson after recent benchings, tells Jaguars coaches: 'He's got to be in the game'
https://es.pn/3y7HOtQ
Want to win more games? Get rid of Meyer and the offensive coaching staff after this month is over. Once again, clearly nobody is on the same page in that building. It starts with Khan, Meyer and Baalke.
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Meyer said he'll be more involved moving forward with personnel decisions, especially at RB and WR.
You're 2 - 10. At what point does it take for a headcoach to step back and go?
"Uh oh... wait a minute. Maybe I should manage my own staff and personnel better here".
Holy Jesus. This man needs to go ASAP. The best coaches in the NFL watch their staff and personnel like an Osprey dials in on it's prey.
This s.o.b looks like a damb Ostrich lost out in the middle of nowhere when his head isn't buried down at the turf on the sideline.
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Lawrence will be fine if the Jags:
1. Protect the QB
2. Find WRs that can catch
3. Develop an offense the creates favorable mismatches by formation
4. Find a creative OC
5. Fire Urban; he’s out of his depth
Makes you wonder how in the heck urbs won at Florida and OS.
Is college and NFL that much different??
(12-08-2021, 06:59 PM)Mowerguy Wrote: [ -> ]Makes you wonder how in the heck urbs won at Florida and OS.
Is college and NFL that much different??
Yes!
Ever wonder why the same teams remain atop the College Rankings every year but the top teams in the NFL changes?
I got to thinking the other day, one of the position coaches that definitely needs an upgrade is QB Coach. Schottenheimer just isn't developing Trevor Lawrence like he should. With that said, I have a candidate in mind. I don't even know if this candidate would be interested in coaching, but he is extremely knowledgeable and seems like he has the kind of temperament to do a good job. What about Tony Romo? It amazes me that when he is calling a game, he seems to know almost every play that is coming. He has a knack for reading defenses and he has an engaging personality. If he could pass that knowledge on to Trevor, it would be a huge step in his development. Like I said I have no clue if Romo is even interested in coaching, especially since he has a really cozy job calling games, but I believe he has the type of makeup to be a very good NFL coach.
We probably would do better with Beathart right now but who cares? Going 2-15 or 5-12 either way we suck. Get the best available draft position and give Lawrence more snaps.
Let Lawrence play and learn
Its not like Gabbert, who obviously looked mentally scarred halfway through his rookie season
(12-08-2021, 02:38 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]One poster defends the coaches and the other defends the rookie. Poster number 1 also identifies that it could be a problem for the qb rookie if he's surrounded by other rookies.
(10-27-2014, 10:49 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
Year 3 has always been the year from the minute they were hired and further stated when they insinuated that the QB wouldn't play this year. They put him in because Henne was catastrophic when they thought he would be adequate, and it was more than the franchise could bear after 2 weeks.
BB5 has the classic problem all rookies do, the game speed is beyond his ability to process it at times, and when that happens his mechanics flounder. The good thing is that he's made some really athletic plays at some of those times that show he's got the whole package if he can learn to use it all.
He also has the disadvantage of playing with other rooks who have the same problems and that, as management originally thought, could hinder his development this year.
The best part for us is that he's already good enough to overcome some of these issues at times, he just needs more playing time to put it all together.
jaguarmvp Wrote:
Here is the bottom line. If you put Manning or Brady behind this offensive line they would struggle as well. If your line isn't good your offense won't be good. We have maybe the worst line in the NFL. Sorry but put any HOFer behind this line and they struggle.
And?
(12-08-2021, 07:05 PM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ] (12-08-2021, 06:59 PM)Mowerguy Wrote: [ -> ]Makes you wonder how in the heck urbs won at Florida and OS.
Is college and NFL that much different??
Yes!
Ever wonder why the same teams remain atop the College Rankings every year but the top teams in the NFL changes?
The top NFL teams are often the same because they have the best QBs. There's definitely a lot of churn throughout the rest of the league though.
(12-08-2021, 09:09 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I got to thinking the other day, one of the position coaches that definitely needs an upgrade is QB Coach. Schottenheimer just isn't developing Trevor Lawrence like he should. With that said, I have a candidate in mind. I don't even know if this candidate would be interested in coaching, but he is extremely knowledgeable and seems like he has the kind of temperament to do a good job. What about Tony Romo? It amazes me that when he is calling a game, he seems to know almost every play that is coming. He has a knack for reading defenses and he has an engaging personality. If he could pass that knowledge on to Trevor, it would be a huge step in his development. Like I said I have no clue if Romo is even interested in coaching, especially since he has a really cozy job calling games, but I believe he has the type of makeup to be a very good NFL coach.
I'm pretty sure Romo is making more money than any head coach in the league, let alone position coaches. Maybe he would do it just for fun?