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Lawrence continues to be consistent and questions still remain on his accuracy.

Lawrence has thrown 1 TD pass in the last 7 games. Unreal!

(12-19-2021, 09:57 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Lawrence continues to be consistent and questions still remain on his accuracy.

Lawrence has thrown 1 TD pass in the last 7 games.  Unreal!

That is a pretty rough stat. Maybe things will get at least a little better in these last few games. Though he does have the Patriots and Colts coming up.

(12-19-2021, 10:41 PM)mal234 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-19-2021, 09:57 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Lawrence continues to be consistent and questions still remain on his accuracy.

Lawrence has thrown 1 TD pass in the last 7 games.  Unreal!

That is a pretty rough stat. Maybe things will get at least a little better in these last few games. Though he does have the Patriots and Colts coming up.

You won’t find a worse defense than the Texans Covid replacements.

(12-19-2021, 09:57 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Lawrence continues to be consistent and questions still remain on his accuracy.

Lawrence has thrown 1 TD pass in the last 7 games.  Unreal!

Yea. That sucks.

But how is he supposed to throw TD passes if no one is open AND if they finally do get open, they drop it.

Lawrence did miss on some throws but that's going to happen. Don't you remember they talked about how bad the Jags receivers are at their routes and more specifically, route depth? Davis Mills had 2 TD passes. One was to a WIDE OPEN Cooks and the other was a screen pass Cooks took to the house. The Jags can't get either of those things.

I'm not worried at all about Trevor.

(12-20-2021, 11:24 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]But how is he supposed to throw TD passes if no one is open AND if they finally do get open, they drop it.

For the third straight game we've had 1st and goal on the one or two yard line and every play we have ran the ball. For the third straight game I will make the minor complaint that it would have behooved us to try to get Trevor some confidence by attempting a couple of goal line passes or even some QB rushes before resorting to letting the RB run.

(12-20-2021, 11:24 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-19-2021, 09:57 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Lawrence continues to be consistent and questions still remain on his accuracy.

Lawrence has thrown 1 TD pass in the last 7 games.  Unreal!

Yea. That sucks.

But how is he supposed to throw TD passes if no one is open AND if they finally do get open, they drop it.

Lawrence did miss on some throws but that's going to happen. Don't you remember they talked about how bad the Jags receivers are at their routes and more specifically, route depth? Davis Mills had 2 TD passes. One was to a WIDE OPEN Cooks and the other was a screen pass Cooks took to the house. The Jags can't get either of those things.

I'm not worried at all about Trevor.

Mills gets the credit but it was all Cooks on those two plays.

One thing I have noticed about Lawrence. He does not have the ability to throw a pass while getting open on a route and catch it. What gives?

(12-20-2021, 01:11 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]One thing I have noticed about Lawrence.  He does not have the ability to throw a pass while getting open on a route and catch it. What gives?

Right, Superman could do it, heck, even a b-teamer like the flash could do it. Why can't Trevor?

(12-20-2021, 01:13 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-20-2021, 01:11 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]One thing I have noticed about Lawrence.  He does not have the ability to throw a pass while getting open on a route and catch it. What gives?

Right, Superman could do it, heck, even a b-teamer like the flash could do it. Why can't Trevor?

Have you forgotten?

This thread is like the sky is falling.... the sky is falling.

The reality is the sky has fallen on this franchise. The Urbz and his side kick baalke screwed this year. But Chark and Etienne injuries. Seriously would have been the same Online with the same lack of TE and shallow WR depth. The regression on Laviska is so very disappointing.

Que the rebuild of the rebuild of the built rebuild of all rebuilds.

It's hard to explain his inaccuracy on a lot of his throws. Easy check down throws at that. Cannot judge his deep ball ability at all as we don't /cannot go downfield often enough. I wonder is something hampering his ability. Minor injury or something?

(12-20-2021, 01:24 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]It's hard to explain his inaccuracy on a lot of his throws. Easy check down throws at that. Cannot judge his deep ball ability at all as we don't /cannot go downfield often enough. I wonder is something hampering his ability. Minor injury or something?

For the first time in his life he's losing. I'm sure it's put a dent in that confidence level.

(12-20-2021, 01:24 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]It's hard to explain his inaccuracy on a lot of his throws. Easy check down throws at that. Cannot judge his deep ball ability at all as we don't /cannot go downfield often enough. I wonder is something hampering his ability. Minor injury or something?

It's mechanics mostly. Throws off the back foot, throwing around defenders in his face, hurried throws are all contributing to the accuracy concerns. At the same time, he's hitting guys in the hands and they aren't catching the easy ones. The issue is how much of those problems are a Trevor problem vs being a supporting cast problem. Brady looked terrible last night after he lost most of his skill players and he's one of the best ever. Clearly TLaw doesn't have anything like that stacked roster around him, so it seems likely that his struggles aren't exclusively his fault.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/is-trevo...-qb-s-case

Quote:When comparing Lawrence's stats in the first 12 games to the Minshew's first 12 games, the latter had the better success out of the gate.

Minshew had a quarterback rating of 90.1 and threw for 2,849 passing yards. Compared to Lawrence's nine passing touchdowns, Minshew threw for double that number with 18 passing touchdowns to just four interceptions.

Quote:Minshew finally got an opportunity to start for the Philadelphia Eagles this past Sunday as starting quarterback Jalen Hurts was out with an injury. The Eagles defeated the Jets, with Minshew going 22 for 27 on completed passes and throwing 253 passing yards and two touchdowns.

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https://973thegame.iheart.com/content/20...ng-a-bust/

Quote:Trevor Lawrence has been left out of conversations of bad quarterbacks, and given a pass. It’s time for people to start admitting he has stunk just as much as Zach Wilson. Eventually, you have to flash a little bit in order to be a QB in the NFL. It doesn’t mean you have to have a great rookie season, but you have to have some sort of flash, and Lawrence has had none of that. Here’s what gets me: even in garbage time, Lawrence still isn’t able to move the ball down field effectively. He has the most interceptions in the NFL off of bad throws, he hasn’t looked comfortable, and the team just keeps regressing. I’m not seeing he is a bust, but he’s shown those characteristics so far.

(12-20-2021, 01:24 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]It's hard to explain his inaccuracy on a lot of his throws. Easy check down throws at that. Cannot judge his deep ball ability at all as we don't /cannot go downfield often enough. I wonder is something hampering his ability. Minor injury or something?

He's got work to do. For sure. Starts with a new coaching staff that does something for him that this staff never tried to do consistently for him this year and that's design an offense around him to make him comfortable.

I think a lot of it too is just lack of chemistry. He's had a lot of faces in and out of the line up with the exception of Jones this year. Felt like he was getting comfortable with Arnold and Agnew but they ended up on IR.

The reality is that this whole team, including him, especially him, it's fixing to have a [BLEEP] ton of work to do with several new faces on it.

I just want them to look competent and establish an identity on offense next year. Need to see at least six wins.

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(12-20-2021, 07:26 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-20-2021, 01:24 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]It's hard to explain his inaccuracy on a lot of his throws. Easy check down throws at that. Cannot judge his deep ball ability at all as we don't /cannot go downfield often enough. I wonder is something hampering his ability. Minor injury or something?

He's got work to do. For sure. Starts with a new coaching staff that does something for him that this staff never tried to do consistently for him this year and that's design an offense around him to make him comfortable.

I think a lot of it too is just lack of chemistry. He's had a lot of faces in and out of the line up with the exception of Jones this year. Felt like he was getting comfortable with Arnold and Agnew but they ended up on IR.

The reality is that this whole team, including him, especially him, it's fixing to have a [BLEEP] ton of work to do with several new faces on it.

I just want them to look competent and establish an identity on offense next year. Need to see at least six wins.

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Well the thing I love about Lawrence is that he’s going to do whatever it takes to fix it.

It’s the main reason I’m not worried about him being the franchise/elite QB this team has always been craving.

(12-20-2021, 05:52 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/is-trevo...-qb-s-case

Quote:When comparing Lawrence's stats in the first 12 games to the Minshew's first 12 games, the latter had the better success out of the gate.

Minshew had a quarterback rating of 90.1 and threw for 2,849 passing yards. Compared to Lawrence's nine passing touchdowns, Minshew threw for double that number with 18 passing touchdowns to just four interceptions.

Quote:Minshew finally got an opportunity to start for the Philadelphia Eagles this past Sunday as starting quarterback Jalen Hurts was out with an injury. The Eagles defeated the Jets, with Minshew going 22 for 27 on completed passes and throwing 253 passing yards and two touchdowns.

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https://973thegame.iheart.com/content/20...ng-a-bust/

Quote:Trevor Lawrence has been left out of conversations of bad quarterbacks, and given a pass. It’s time for people to start admitting he has stunk just as much as Zach Wilson. Eventually, you have to flash a little bit in order to be a QB in the NFL. It doesn’t mean you have to have a great rookie season, but you have to have some sort of flash, and Lawrence has had none of that. Here’s what gets me: even in garbage time, Lawrence still isn’t able to move the ball down field effectively. He has the most interceptions in the NFL off of bad throws, he hasn’t looked comfortable, and the team just keeps regressing. I’m not seeing he is a bust, but he’s shown those characteristics so far.

Hey you know what.... thanks for your agenda. 

Do you know what they did to Minshew? Yeah they benched him when he had the hot hand. This franchise is an issue. I am not worried about Lawrence.

You don't follow this franchise. We know what crap QBs look like around here. So far it isn't Lawrence.

I still find it hard to tell how much of him struggling is truly him, how much is the surrounding talent, how much of it is the coaching, etc... Most would agree his big issue is consistency with accuracy. He'll have one drive where every throw you need to hit a guy on the move is right on the money. And the next drive he'll have a poorly thrown ball that essentially kills a drive. Since there is no big play ability and every scoring drive seems to require us methodically moving down the field, every single throw has to be right on the money because one missed 2nd and 10 pass is basically a drive killer. Whereas you'll see other QBs miss a similar throw but their offense is able to overcome it on 3rd and long. While our offense is seemingly incapable. His margin of error is much smaller and I think that exacerbates the issue.

The real bummer of it all is he was really progressing until we hit the bye. After the Dolphins game, he seemed clearly better than the rest of the rookie QBs. But ever since then it's been a disaster. Just recently I came across a video of his highlights through the first 6 weeks of the season and I don't recall any passes the last two months as good as what was on that video. Obviously we have no one capable of replicating that deep Chark TD. But some of those throws to the corner of endzones. Hitting guys on deep corner routes. Bullets down the seam. These passes just don't exist anymore in our arsenal. But he was routinely hitting them before. Obviously his confidence looks really shook. And I think that bleeds into the accuracy. That really awful 3rd down miss yesterday when it was still a one score came and he short hopped it. Admittedly the way the ball came out it almost looked like he lost his grip on a wet ball. But in addition he didnt set his feet but he looked like he should have been able to. He often times looks rushed in his delivery (if pressure or not), doesnt look comfortable, and the mechanics seem to be fading.

I really want this season to end asap just to get it over with and to avoid any kind of injury that would set back his development in the offseason. But on the otherhand I also want to see him have one really good game to finish the year with some confidence and something to build on.

(12-20-2021, 08:09 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]I still find it hard to tell how much of him struggling is truly him, how much is the surrounding talent, how much of it is the coaching, etc...  Most would agree his big issue is consistency with accuracy.  He'll have one drive where every throw you need to hit a guy on the move is right on the money.  And the next drive he'll have a poorly thrown ball that essentially kills a drive.  Since there is no big play ability and every scoring drive seems to require us methodically moving down the field, every single throw has to be right on the money because one missed 2nd and 10 pass is basically a drive killer.  Whereas you'll see other QBs miss a similar throw but their offense is able to overcome it on 3rd and long.  While our offense is seemingly incapable.  His margin of error is much smaller and I think that exacerbates the issue.

The real bummer of it all is he was really progressing until we hit the bye.  After the Dolphins game, he seemed clearly better than the rest of the rookie QBs.  But ever since then it's been a disaster.  Just recently I came across a video of his highlights through the first 6 weeks of the season and I don't recall any passes the last two months as good as what was on that video.  Obviously we have no one capable of replicating that deep Chark TD.  But some of those throws to the corner of endzones.  Hitting guys on deep corner routes.  Bullets down the seam.  These passes just don't exist anymore in our arsenal.  But he was routinely hitting them before.  Obviously his confidence looks really shook.  And I think that bleeds into the accuracy.  That really awful 3rd down miss yesterday when it was still a one score came and he short hopped it.  Admittedly the way the ball came out it almost looked like he lost his grip on a wet ball.  But in addition he didnt set his feet but he looked like he should have been able to.  He often times looks rushed in his delivery (if pressure or not), doesnt look comfortable, and the mechanics seem to be fading. 

I really want this season to end asap just to get it over with and to avoid any kind of injury that would set back his development in the offseason.  But on the otherhand I also want to see him have one really good game to finish the year with some confidence and something to build on.

It’s a combination of so many factors it’s truly a worst case scenario for a rookie QB.

Average to below average line. Horrific coaching. Bad game planning. No playmakers. WRs who have depth issues and lack separation skills. SO MANY DROPS. Coaches refusal to keep good skill players on the field (JRob). 

Add it all up and it’s a recipe for poor performances by a rookie QB. Now he’s not without his own faults. He does have accuracy issues at times. He’s still working on processing plays at a quick NFL level. 

I think next season will be a tremendous turnaround for Lawrence and the offense. Heavy in FA and the draft for talent.

(12-20-2021, 07:26 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-20-2021, 01:24 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]It's hard to explain his inaccuracy on a lot of his throws. Easy check down throws at that. Cannot judge his deep ball ability at all as we don't /cannot go downfield often enough. I wonder is something hampering his ability. Minor injury or something?

He's got work to do. For sure. Starts with a new coaching staff that does something for him that this staff never tried to do consistently for him this year and that's design an offense around him to make him comfortable.

I think a lot of it too is just lack of chemistry. He's had a lot of faces in and out of the line up with the exception of Jones this year. Felt like he was getting comfortable with Arnold and Agnew but they ended up on IR.

The reality is that this whole team, including him, especially him, it's fixing to have a [BLEEP] ton of work to do with several new faces on it.

I just want them to look competent and establish an identity on offense next year. Need to see at least six wins.

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Chemistry is one thing, the thing I worry about is he is missing way too many short and medium passes.