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Quote:I'm not concerned about the level of competition.  Good players are found where they're found.  Bridgewater is a promising prospect.  He may very well be the best QB in the upcoming draft.  We'll see. 


 

 

Crush that fence, Crush that fence, Crush that fence!!!

Quote:whats a joke? An account of the stadium from people who were at the superbowl? 

 

Oh wait, its paintchips87. Nevermind. 

 

There is a good chance these friends of yours that were at the stadium do not in fact even exist. Probably just something you heard on the radio from Adam Caplan or Howard Eskin.

Quote:If anyone has ever honestly said the game day experience is terrible then they don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Gameday is a blast! 

Quote:whats a joke? An account of the stadium from people who were at the superbowl? 

 

Oh wait, its paintchips87. Nevermind. 

 

If you'd ever set foot in the stadium, you'd know their evaluation of the "sight lines" is about as incorrect as it could possibly be unless they were watching the game from the practice fields.  Just admit you're clueless, and you'll regurgitate whatever drivel you pick up along the way and spout it as if you're an expert on the subject.  That way you can get back to work because fries don't make themselves. 

Quote:1st overall.  I remember there were arguements about whether the colts would take Manning or Leaf. 

 

Because Leaf was viewed as being the prototypical Pro QB whereas Manning was viewed by some as someone who has "capped" in potential. Manning was a field general that is accurate and smart but doesn't have the strongest arm. There were also questions on his big-game ability (something that some will argue, translated to the Pros). Peyton was a "clean" prospect, but he was far from this "elite" level QB prospect that some are making him out to be thanks to what we have seen him do in the Pros.

 

This is why you see comparisons of Bridgewater to Manning. Not to say that he'll have the career that Manning has had, but because SEC and height aside, Teddy's strengths/weaknesses coming in are fairly similar to Peyton's strength/weaknesses coming in. It's not that TB is this elite level, once-in-a-decade QB prospect. But he certainly is one of the most "clean" looking QB prospects in awhile. And when you're the Jacksonville Jaguars who has missed on QBs since Brunell's knee gave out against the Giants..."clean" just might be what is needed.

Quote:There is a good chance these friends of yours that were at the stadium do not in fact even exist. Probably just something you heard on the radio from Adam Caplan or Howard Eskin.

 

Wow, hmmm....you're not disputing that anything of the account I am relaying is false, so you instead try to take a shot at the messenger. I guess my friends account of the stadium must have been pretty accurate and for some reason that upsets you. 

Quote:Crush that fence, Crush that fence, Crush that fence!!!

 

I've never said anything different about Bridgewater.  He's a decent QB.  I just don't get aroused when I see him play the way you apparently do since you've seen every snap he's ever played at the collegiate level. 

 

The truth is, you're nothing more than a parrot who spouts what you hear.  The stadium comments confirm this, so your expertise only requires someone to throw you a cracker to keep you happy.  Isn't that right, Polly?

Quote:whats a joke? An account of the stadium from people who were at the superbowl? 

 

Oh wait, its paintchips87. Nevermind. 

 

WHAT A JOKE!

Quote:Wow, hmmm....you're not disputing that anything of the account I am relaying is false, so you instead try to take a shot at the messenger. I guess my friends account of the stadium must have been pretty accurate and for some reason that upsets you. 

 

I have no issues with the dozen or so times a year I am at the stadium, so why would I care what some made up friends supposedly said. And the reason you even brought it up a week or so ago was as some pathetic dig at the team. That's pretty much all you do, right?

Quote:If you'd ever set foot in the stadium, you'd know their evaluation of the "sight lines" is about as incorrect as it could possibly be unless they were watching the game from the practice fields.  Just admit you're clueless, and you'll regurgitate whatever drivel you pick up along the way and spout it as if you're an expert on the subject.  That way you can get back to work because fries don't make themselves. 

 

No, I've never been in the stadium which is why I have no dog in that fight. I'm just relaying info they said since they in fact were there and don't have the bias that perhaps a local would have. But you saying "their" evaluation of the sight lines being wrong is nutty. How do you know what THEIR basing their frame of reference on? They said that they have seen better. Maybe Lincoln Field and the other stadiums they are basing their comparisons off of have better sight lines than Everbank. 

Look at all these bad sight lines!  LOL.  

 

Quote:Then who does it apply to?  Most of us who don't subscribe to the notion that the team should tank for any player are making the same case repeatedly, yet we're bashed endlessly for not seeing the bigger picture.  That's arguably one of the dumbest things anyone could say on this board. 

 

It's funny because someone else pointed out that most of the tankers don't necessarily have a vested interest in the team. Many are fans who aren't in Jacksonville, and don't have any real skin in the game beyond buying clothes and hats.  As fans who do have a vested interest in the team, whether it's because we own tickets or any other reason, want to see this team win every time it takes the field.  We understand the tanker logic, we just don't subscribe to quitting because we're paying to watch this team play.  It's the people who aren't who are the loudest complainers on here.  One in particular has NEVER seen this team play a home game in person (but he's heard the game day experience is terrible from someone who went to a game 1o years ago, so he's an expert.). 

 

Those of us who prefer to see the team trying to win are regularly chastised for not being savvy fans.  Tankers are far more high minded because they embrace losing, then turn around and accuse us of being the ones who prefer losing.  It's silly.  If a team takes the field with the intention of losing, they'll lose fans in droves.  Clearly, this team has NOT quit, and they continue to try to win games, and I for one am happy to see this.  The queen of the tankers loves to play both sides of this argument. When they lose, he whines about how lousy the coach is and how we should have spent the farm getting a coach who was never going to come here.  When they win, he can't complain about the coaching, so he focuses on how it's hurting our draft position.  This is who the tankers are sidling up with.  In the end, a year from now, no matter what happens, the queen will claim he had the right approach even though he takes every side in an argument.

 

I'm referring to the people who have said Teddy isn't really that good.  

 

I'm not a fan living in Jacksonville.  But I don't think that makes me any less of a fan.  Nor is my support limited to buying 'clothes and hat's.  Whenever the Jaguars come up here, I try to go to the game to support them, because that's when I can support them.  I got to see my first Jags game in person in 2006 against the Eagles.  It may be a long time before I can see the Jags at a home game.  Traveling isn't as easy for some of us.  But anytime they come to Washington or Philadelphia, I try to get tickets.  It's not very often that they do come up here.  I wish I lived closer to Nashville so I could make it to games against the tacks to support them once a year.  Heck, I wish we could move to Jacksonville and I could get season tickets.  Since I was a kid, I've wanted to have a football team in my home area. 

 

You seem to be lumping a lot of the tankers together.  TMD and some of the others want us to throw games.  But there are those of us who want to see the best effort out of the team -- we just want the other team to play their best.  To me, the game against the Broncos was great effort by the Jags -- and showed more improvement than either the tinhorns or tacks game.  That game gave me more hope for Bradley than anyone else.  He got real effort against a team that we were expected to be destroyed by.  That's what I want to see every week.  Not a win or a loss at this point.    

 

You're using the 'Hitler ate sugar' attack here.  Sure, I agree with TMD on some things.  That doesn't make me (or others) like him.  He does sometimes play both sides of the argument.  Gus Bradley for example.  I think Bradley's done a good job as coach, and I think we should wait to judge him until we get some talent on this roster. I don't agree that defensive head coaches just can't do it anymore. Just because someone is the loudest, doesn't mean they speak for everyone else.  And sometimes I think he puts things more brashly than he means to.  I think many of us do, though.

Quote:No, I've never been in the stadium which is why I have no dog in that fight. I'm just relaying info they said since they in fact were there and don't have the bias that perhaps a local would have. But you saying "their" evaluation of the sight lines being wrong is nutty. How do you know what THEIR basing their frame of reference on? They said that they have seen better. Maybe Lincoln Field and the other stadiums they are basing their comparisons off of have better sight lines than Everbank. 

 

You have no dog in the fight, yet you feel comfortable telling us about the stadium?  Do you even realize just how stupid that sounds?  Especially coming from someone you supposedly talked to who attended a game 10 years ago.  Either way, you're approaching this from complete ignorance.  I know that's just the way you roll, but most people who have a functional IQ tend to avoid expressing opinions on matters they know nothing about. 

Quote:I've never said anything different about Bridgewater.  He's a decent QB.  I just don't get aroused when I see him play the way you apparently do since you've seen every snap he's ever played at the collegiate level. 

 

The truth is, you're nothing more than a parrot who spouts what you hear.  The stadium comments confirm this, so your expertise only requires someone to throw you a cracker to keep you happy.  Isn't that right, Polly?

 

LOL, so because I give an account of people that have been at the stadium at the superbowl now I'm a parrot. I guess their comments about the stadium must hold some truth. Thats 2 people in 5 minutes that seem to be butt-hurt about the description. 

 

I've seen almost every snap he's played this year. And yes, he looks the part of someone who will be a VERY good professional QB. Theres nothing asked of the pro QB that Teddy does not do well. 

Quote:Wow, hmmm....you're not disputing that anything of the account I am relaying is false, so you instead try to take a shot at the messenger. I guess my friends account of the stadium must have been pretty accurate and for some reason that upsets you. 

The fact that you don't know because you have never seen for yourself is what is wow. Your "friends" account is and was at the time 10 years ago complete garbage as most of your posts are.

Quote:Look at all these bad sight lines!  LOL.  

 

 

Who said Everbank had "Bad sight lines"?

 

Funny how people twist words. 

 

They said that "they've seen better" (based on their experiences) that doesn't mean that Everbank "had bad sight lines". 

 

Wow, is everyone this insecure down there? :blink: 

Quote:You still haven't accepted that in todays NFL world you cannot win without the franchise QB. The NFL made the rules lean so far this way, so now when teams manipulate to take advantage of these rules you pout and stamp your feet. Get used to it, its not going away, either. You'll see more teams like the Texans & Colts tank in the future to get their QB, unless the rules relax from promoting a passing game so much.

No, you haven't accepted that teams don't tank. That's why YOU are on this thread pouting and stamping YOUR foot because the Jags didn't play along with the fantasy in your head.

Quote:The fact that you don't know because you have never seen for yourself is what is wow. Your "friends" account is and was at the time 10 years ago complete garbage as most of your posts are.

 

Oh, so none of those 3 things said is true?

 

(not sure how the one thing they said could even be proven false since they were going by THEIR experiences in stadiums)  

 

This is rich.  

 

The hypersensitivity that just cropped up from some of you is nuts :wacko: 

Quote:Who said Everbank had "Bad sight lines"?

 

Funny how people twist words. 

 

They said that "they've seen better" (based on their experiences) that doesn't mean that Everbank "had bad sight lines". 

 

Wow, is everyone this insecure down there? :blink:

 

Clearly it wasn't you because you wouldn't know what the sight lines are like at the stadium.  Twist your point any way you see fit to try to weasel your way out of what you said.  There's a former president who tried to parse words like that back in the day, but he was smart enough to do it. You're not.