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Quote: There is the sad part. You are to dense to realize it.

 

 

 

 

'k,

Quote:No, chucklehead, they came into the season trying to win it all.....but once things degenerated to the point where by mid-season the Texans were 2-6 and those hopes were pretty much toast, then at that point the objective was re-assessed. Hence tanking for the QB that has become glaringly obvious that they need. Unlike the Jags, you won't see the Texans win any meaningless games down the stretch to mess this up for them. Then, next year, with Bridgewater, they'll bounce right back up, just like the Colts did with Luck, and we'll be sitting here in the same place with a similar record, still waiting for our franchise QB, and now will have 2 teams in the division that will be set with theirs. But thats okay.....you know why?....because we won that game vs the Texans in 2013 13-6 when they were 2-8! That'll mean a whole lot at that point......not. 

So they were not trying in the sunday nighter against the Colts? Gonna let you in on a little secret right here, players that "tank" become backups! Let me spell that out so you can understand what that means- backup= LESS MONEY! Theres not a player on the planet going out of their way to make LESS MONEY, even if it means instant Super Bowl run because Teddy's coming to town. Chew on that for awhile "chucklehead"

Quote:He's got this thing with paint chips, must be lunch time.

 

I'd say eating paint chips probably explains quite a bit about what's going on in that pea ricocheting around between the diva's ears. 

This thread is fun.






'K.

Quote:So they were not trying in the sunday nighter against the Colts? Gonna let you in on a little secret right here, players that "tank" become backups! Let me spell that out so you can understand what that means- backup= LESS MONEY! Theres not a player on the planet going out of their way to make LESS MONEY, even if it means instant Super Bowl run because Teddy's coming to town. Chew on that for awhile "chucklehead"

 

If you think the Texans did everything they could to beat the Jags yesterday, you're insane. Keenum never would have been left in that game for the duration if they were trying to win that game at all costs. 

Quote:This thread is fun.






'K.

 

It sure is. 

Quote:If you think the Texans did everything they could to beat the Jags yesterday, you're insane. Keenum never would have been left in that game for the duration if they were trying to win that game at all costs. 

 

Because Schaub has shown to be so much better? 

 

Kubiak's job isn't secure enough to think the owner, who has invested heavily in this team, is going to allow him to tank for a year with the hope that they draft a prospect who MIGHT be a franchise QB.  There's dumb, and then there's dog whimperer dumb, and you seem to set a new standard in stupid with each load of crap you shovel out on this board.

 

If they were getting blown out weekly, maybe you'd have a point.  They haven't.  So, again, stupid is as stupid posts.  Keep it up.

Quote:Because Schaub has shown to be so much better? 

 

Kubiak's job isn't secure enough to think the owner, who has invested heavily in this team, is going to allow him to tank for a year with the hope that they draft a prospect who MIGHT be a franchise QB.  There's dumb, and then there's dog whimperer dumb, and you seem to set a new standard in stupid with each load of crap you shovel out on this board.

 

If they were getting blown out weekly, maybe you'd have a point.  They haven't.  So, again, stupid is as stupid posts.  Keep it up.

 

 

Kubiaks future/ his role in this has already been discussed in this thread, genius. 

 

He gone at seasons end,,,,albeit with a nice "severance check".....

It was said on this board 4 weeks ago the starting of Chad Henne was PROOF that Dave Caldwell was intentionally tanking to get Bridgewater. If, after 2 wins in the last 3 games, this was true then Gabbert should be playing because Henne isn't doing anything to insure tanking.

Regards.............the Chiefjag

Quote:It was said on this board 4 weeks ago the starting of Chad Henne was PROOF that Dave Caldwell was intentionally tanking to get Bridgewater. If, after 2 wins in the last 3 games, this was true then Gabbert should be playing because Henne isn't doing anything to insure tanking.


Regards.............the Chiefjag

 

It wasn't said by me. 

 

I never thought the Jags were intentionally tanking. 

 

The Jags haven't proved smart enough to do that, not with Luck hanging in the balance in 2011, and apparently not this year, with Bridgewater.....

 

Yet, 2 division opponents will bear the fruits of their tanking for the better part of the next decade, while we play the QB lottery this draft and likely will remain more or less in this same spot for at least several more years before we finally wise up and bottom out during a year that has a top flight franchise QB as the golden goose. 

 

Quote:It wasn't said that by me. 
 
I never thought the Jags were intentionally tanking. 
 
The Jags haven't proved smart enough to do that, not with Luck hanging in the balance in 2011, and apparently not this year, with Bridgewater.....
 
Yet, 2 division opponents will bear the fruits of their tanking for the better part of the next decade, while we play the QB lottery this draft and likely will remain more or less in this same spot for at least several more years before we finally wise up and bottom out during a year that has a top flight franchise QB as the golden goose.

 
There was a snail who knocked on my door. I picked it up and threw it across the street. Five years later it returned and knocked on my door and said, "what'd you do that for?"

Moral of the story: You're running 5 years with the same crap.

Regards..............the Chiefjag

I don't understand what the big deal is. 

 

Colts played it smart and got Luck. 

 

Texans are playing it smart to get Bridgewater.

 

We're going to win a couple meaningless games, draft around 5th-6th spot, and win another 3-4 games next year because we missed out on Bridgewater.  Texans and Colts will own the division for the next decade, we'll be sharing the cellar with the tacks.

 

Mired in mediocrity. 

 

But whoop-dee-dooo, we beat the Texans...

TMD, please explain to us this. You have stated multiple times that the Colts intentially tanked and only tried to win once they had the number 1 pick locked up. So who was trying to throw the games? The coaches who were fired? The players who got released? Who are the ones responsible for this "tank job" and how did they go about doing it?

Quote:TMD, please explain to us this. You have stated multiple times that the Colts intentially tanked and only tried to win once they had the number 1 pick locked up. So who was trying to throw the games? The coaches who were fired? The players who got released? Who are the ones responsible for this "tank job" and how did they go about doing it?

Don't you know. They all did it to "get a little extra something in their severance/paychecks" Duh.

Quote:I don't understand what the big deal is. 

 

Colts played it smart and got Luck.    No proof that ever happened.  If you've got it I'd love to see it. 


 

Texans are playing it smart to get Bridgewater.  So which quarterback was was sucking really really bad to ensure that the tinhorns would be able to draft a guy to take his job and get him fired???  Keenum or Schaub?  Or are they both committing career suicide? 


 

We're going to win a couple meaningless games, draft around 5th-6th spot, and win another 3-4 games next year because we missed out on Bridgewater.  Texans and Colts will own the division for the next decade, we'll be sharing the cellar with the tacks.   So you know exactly where we'll draft - who will be available, whether or not Caldwell will trade up, which QBs will turn out to be elite and which will not.  Damn.  You are a prophet. 


 

Mired in mediocrity.   Well, your outlook  on this team is anyway. 


 

But whoop-dee-dooo, we beat the Texans...    I hope we beat 'em again in a week and a half. 

Quote:I don't understand what the big deal is. 

 

Colts played it smart and got Luck. 

 

Texans are playing it smart to get Bridgewater.

 

We're going to win a couple meaningless games, draft around 5th-6th spot, and win another 3-4 games next year because we missed out on Bridgewater.  Texans and Colts will own the division for the next decade, we'll be sharing the cellar with the tacks.

 

Mired in mediocrity. 

 

But whoop-dee-dooo, we beat the Texans...

 

 

precisely. 

Quote:TMD, please explain to us this. You have stated multiple times that the Colts intentially tanked and only tried to win once they had the number 1 pick locked up. So who was trying to throw the games? The coaches who were fired? The players who got released? Who are the ones responsible for this "tank job" and how did they go about doing it?

 

 

Its been discussed already. (cliff notes version)-The call came from Irsay. The players that were in there aren't going to lose on purpose, but you can get around that by strategic inclusion of a player or few into the starting lineup that isn't good that can bring the rest down. Think Gabbert starting for us and what that would accomplish at this point all season....we'd still be winless. Their coaches knew they were out the door by midseason of that year anyway. So winning meaningless games wasn't going to save them. They got a little severance as they went out the door for making the personnel decisions that generated the desired results (losses that ensured the top pick). 

Quote:Its been discussed already. The call came from Irsay. The players that were in there aren't going to lose on purpose, but you can get around that by strategic inclusion of a player or few into the starting lineup that isn't good that can bring the rest down. Think Gabbert starting for us and what that would accomplish at this point all season....we'd still be winless. Their coaches knew they were out the door by midseason of that year anyway. So winning meaningless games wasn't going to save them. They got a little severance as they went out the door for making the personnel decisions that generated the desired results (losses that ensured the top pick). 

 

All of this seems awfully convenient, especially considering no one let go has ever so much as breathed a word of involvement. 

 

Yes, I know, I've heard of non-disclosure agreements. But it all wrapped up a little too neatly for me to 100 percent buy in to this explanation. 

My stance is this:

 

I firmly believe we have BY FAR the worst roster in the NFL.  Our best veteran players are nowhere near stars.  We don't have any stars.  We only have a few players who I think could start on other teams, and they are very hard to find.

 

I believe that if some other team is picking ahead of us come next year, it's absolutely asinine. 

 

On top of that, if 5 years from now we look back and see that the #1 pick is a perennial pro-bowler, while our pick isn't, I think I'm just gonna give up.

Quote:Its been discussed already. The call came from Irsay. The players that were in there aren't going to lose on purpose, but you can get around that by strategic inclusion of a player or few into the starting lineup that isn't good that can bring the rest down. Think Gabbert starting for us and what that would accomplish at this point all season....we'd still be winless. Their coaches knew they were out the door by midseason of that year anyway. So winning meaningless games wasn't going to save them. They got a little severance as they went out the door for making the personnel decisions that generated the desired results (losses that ensured the top pick). 

 

Ah, I see. Ok then.