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JaguarLVP likely wont ever show his face around here again (haven't seen him yet on that account at least LOL) and ChrisClownBoy will likely be posting on a new account by seasons end as well.

(09-26-2022, 02:00 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]JaguarLVP likely wont ever show his face around here again (haven't seen him yet on that account at least LOL) and ChrisClownBoy will likely be posting on a new account by seasons end as well.

I dont want to crap on the parade because today was a good day. Two good games out of 20 does not prove me wrong. But, i will say at this moment we have seen some solid improvement. If im being honest with you, im ready to accept my crow.. the only thing iv yet to see lawrence do is bring a game back on his own.. hes been very good in situations where the defense is lights out, perhaps we find out what hes really got next week versus philly. I expected the charger game to be that test but they couldnt handle our defense at all.


But regardless, i am very impressed with his progression and of course im even more pleased to see the hc i wanted, was the clear cut right choice. Where are the leftwich nutt huggers now

(09-25-2022, 08:31 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-25-2022, 07:50 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]Wow, two really good games from TL.  I am impressed and happy. I didn’t think he had it in him. He keeps on a roll like this and I’ll be happily eating a huge helping of crow.


Whatever happens this season, we can be sure of one thing. The Jags won’t be making the number one draft pick three years in a row.

Can I get a bust comparison to his performances from last yr to this year so I can understand why u are still clinging on to your original take?  Any facts would be nice

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WT F is a bust comparison?  Facts would be nice?  What do you mean?  Do you mean that you don’t think he’s clearly played two very solid games and this is a big improvement over last year?  We’ve got some tough audiences around here but you’re something else.


If you’re instead saying that I should be fully on the TL-is-God bandwagon after two very good games then not yet.  He’s improved and is playing well in the system, no doubt, but that a superstar does not make.  The team is firing on all cylinders and the coaches have out-performed the opposition pretty clearly these last two weeks.  The defense has been playing especially well, which always cranks up the heat on an opponent.

When TL can play well when the other side brings the goods, then I’ll really start to back him.  Until then I hope he keeps playing well within the confines of the game plan, which has been very good.  I didn’t think there was a chance in hell that he could develop into that.  Well, he’s started showing some real ability.  This guy may go places.  I hope he does.

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(09-25-2022, 08:33 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-25-2022, 07:50 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]Wow, two really good games from TL.  I am impressed and happy. I didn’t think he had it in him. He keeps on a roll like this and I’ll be happily eating a huge helping of crow.


Whatever happens this season, we can be sure of one thing. The Jags won’t be making the number one draft pick three years in a row.

It has actually been four good games in a row from him, with three being very good. Still, you can go at your own pace, won't matter how long it takes you to realize your take is wrong, it will still be objectively wrong.

The first game of this year was not a good performance by TL.  Pretending otherwise undermines your effort to dance in the end zone and claim you won the Internet.

That being said, these last two games have been great.  The offensive play has been spectacularly called and TL has fit in really well.  He’s making quick decisions, he’s staying home when he’s supposed to stay home, he’s hitting the quick throws and making the defense respect him.  It’s all very good.  A little more of this and he’ll possibly start commanding play himself, using his talents to extend play unexpectedly and disrupt defensive prep against him.  We’ll see how it goes this year.

At this point he’s finally playing his role faithfully within the larger scheme and it’s going really well.  He develops judgement, skill and confidence and the coaches will be able to expand his role and the effectiveness of the offense as a result.  He looks good.  I hope he starts to look better and the Jags get really good.

He is who we thought he was. The guy is going to be a superstar.

(09-26-2022, 04:05 AM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-25-2022, 08:33 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]It has actually been four good games in a row from him, with three being very good. Still, you can go at your own pace, won't matter how long it takes you to realize your take is wrong, it will still be objectively wrong.

The first game of this year was not a good performance by TL.  Pretending otherwise undermines your effort to dance in the end zone and claim you won the Internet.

That being said, these last two games have been great.  The offensive play has been spectacularly called and TL has fit in really well.  He’s making quick decisions, he’s staying home when he’s supposed to stay home, he’s hitting the quick throws and making the defense respect him.  It’s all very good.  A little more of this and he’ll possibly start commanding play himself, using his talents to extend play unexpectedly and disrupt defensive prep against him.  We’ll see how it goes this year.

At this point he’s finally playing his role faithfully within the larger scheme and it’s going really well.  He develops judgement, skill and confidence and the coaches will be able to expand his role and the effectiveness of the offense as a result.  He looks good.  I hope he starts to look better and the Jags get really good.

I'm telling you it was a good performance, not asking if you think it was a good performance.

(09-26-2022, 06:09 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-26-2022, 04:05 AM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]The first game of this year was not a good performance by TL.  Pretending otherwise undermines your effort to dance in the end zone and claim you won the Internet.

That being said, these last two games have been great.  The offensive play has been spectacularly called and TL has fit in really well.  He’s making quick decisions, he’s staying home when he’s supposed to stay home, he’s hitting the quick throws and making the defense respect him.  It’s all very good.  A little more of this and he’ll possibly start commanding play himself, using his talents to extend play unexpectedly and disrupt defensive prep against him.  We’ll see how it goes this year.

At this point he’s finally playing his role faithfully within the larger scheme and it’s going really well.  He develops judgement, skill and confidence and the coaches will be able to expand his role and the effectiveness of the offense as a result.  He looks good.  I hope he starts to look better and the Jags get really good.

I'm telling you it was a good performance, not asking if you think it was a good performance.

1 td 1 int, a costly int at the end of the game and a few other balls that could have been picked is not a good performance. Either way tho, he has been lights out for two weeks straight.

(09-26-2022, 06:59 AM)Big Dougy P Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-26-2022, 06:09 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]I'm telling you it was a good performance, not asking if you think it was a good performance.

1 td 1 int, a costly int at the end of the game and a few other balls that could have been picked is not a good performance. Either way tho, he has been lights out for two weeks straight.

If you don't understand how to evaluate QB play that's fine, but it was a good performance.

I mean, 3 out of this last 4 games have been incredibly efficient with excellent reads and ball placement. I think cut the guy some slack for his first game in an entirely new offense of system with very little preseason playing time.

For the record:

"What is considered a good QBR?
QBR functions on a 0–100 scale, where an average NFL quarterback typically has around a 50 QBR, while a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback will have approximately a 75. This scale also represents a percentile of overall quarterback performances since 2006."

Trevor's QBR this year:
Week 1 - 46.7
Week 2 - 94.4
Week 3 - 71.8
Overall.- 71.1

So by the numbers, an almost average week 1, a god-among-men week 2, and a week 3 in line with the overall performance - in Pro Bowl discussion. Of course, the numbers aren't always the be-all and end-all, but you can understand someone looking at them and drawing that conclusion.

(09-26-2022, 03:57 AM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-25-2022, 08:31 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: [ -> ]Can I get a bust comparison to his performances from last yr to this year so I can understand why u are still clinging on to your original take?  Any facts would be nice

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WT F is a bust comparison?  Facts would be nice?  What do you mean?  Do you mean that you don’t think he’s clearly played two very solid games and this is a big improvement over last year?  We’ve got some tough audiences around here but you’re something else.


If you’re instead saying that I should be fully on the TL-is-God bandwagon after two very good games then not yet.  He’s improved and is playing well in the system, no doubt, but that a superstar does not make.  The team is firing on all cylinders and the coaches have out-performed the opposition pretty clearly these last two weeks.  The defense has been playing especially well, which always cranks up the heat on an opponent.

When TL can play well when the other side brings the goods, then I’ll really start to back him.  Until then I hope he keeps playing well within the confines of the game plan, which has been very good.  I didn’t think there was a chance in hell that he could develop into that.  Well, he’s started showing some real ability.  This guy may go places.  I hope he does.

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I'm going to give you and your short bus clown friend a little tutorial on how you should be posting today.

Follow closely, please. Just type these letters:

"^I-space-^W-a-s-space-^W-r-o-n-g" 

It's very simple if you just buckle down and apply yoursely.

"I'll admit I'm an idiot when he comes back with three TD drives in the fourth quarter vs a team not outmanned by our awesome defense" is the incorrect answer.

“Mac Jones is a better QB than Trevor Lawrence”

Hahahah look at how all the other QBs from his class are playing this year. Trevor has always and will always be better than those dudes. All it took was actual coaching and actual talent around him for him to succeed.

(09-26-2022, 02:29 AM)I’m ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-26-2022, 02:00 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]JaguarLVP likely wont ever show his face around here again (haven't seen him yet on that account at least LOL) and ChrisClownBoy will likely be posting on a new account by seasons end as well.

I dont want to crap on the parade because today was a good day. Two good games out of 20 does not prove me wrong. But, i will say at this moment we have seen some solid improvement. If im being honest with you, im ready to accept my crow.. the only thing iv yet to see lawrence do is bring a game back on his own.. hes been very good in situations where the defense is lights out, perhaps we find out what hes really got next week versus philly. I expected the charger game to be that test but they couldnt handle our defense at all.


But regardless, i am very impressed with his progression and of course im even more pleased to see the hc i wanted, was the clear cut right choice. Where are the leftwich nutt huggers now

Translation:  I am looking for something to be wrong so that I can be correct with my flawed ‘evaluation’.

(09-26-2022, 07:48 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-26-2022, 03:57 AM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]WT F is a bust comparison?  Facts would be nice?  What do you mean?  Do you mean that you don’t think he’s clearly played two very solid games and this is a big improvement over last year?  We’ve got some tough audiences around here but you’re something else.


If you’re instead saying that I should be fully on the TL-is-God bandwagon after two very good games then not yet.  He’s improved and is playing well in the system, no doubt, but that a superstar does not make.  The team is firing on all cylinders and the coaches have out-performed the opposition pretty clearly these last two weeks.  The defense has been playing especially well, which always cranks up the heat on an opponent.

When TL can play well when the other side brings the goods, then I’ll really start to back him.  Until then I hope he keeps playing well within the confines of the game plan, which has been very good.  I didn’t think there was a chance in hell that he could develop into that.  Well, he’s started showing some real ability.  This guy may go places.  I hope he does.

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I'm going to give you and your short bus clown friend a little tutorial on how you should be posting today.

Follow closely, please. Just type these letters:

"^I-space-^W-a-s-space-^W-r-o-n-g" 

It's very simple if you just buckle down and apply yoursely.

"I'll admit I'm an idiot when he comes back with three TD drives in the fourth quarter vs a team not outmanned by our awesome defense" is the incorrect answer.

You have reading comprehension issues.  Night school can help with that.  I recommend you look up what your local community college has on offer.

Follow closely and see if you can understand this quote:

“Wow, two really good games from TL. I am impressed and happy. I didn’t think he had it in him. He keeps on a roll like this and I’ll be happily eating a huge helping of crow.”

https://twitter.com/Jueceman15/status/15...pLkBxu2Y7g

Wonder if the circus was quick to write off Josh Allen too...

Trevor through 3 games:

Yards: 13th (772)
Comp %: 7th (69.4%)
TDs: Tied for 5th (6tds)
INTs: Tied for 1st (1int) I removed the 10 players with zero ints who are listed from gadget plays or fill in stuff
QBR: 7th (71.1)
Rating: 6th (103.1)
Sacks: Tied for 1st (2)

We've got ourselves a top 10 QB boys. Who also is a bust too though obviously.

Notably, his numbers are VERY similar to Hurts. Trevor has higher comp % and more passing TDs while Hurts has more yards and rushing TDs. I point this out because everyone is hyped on Hurts (justifiably).

(09-26-2022, 01:00 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]Trevor through 3 games:

Yards: 13th (772)
Comp %: 7th (69.4%)
TDs: Tied for 5th (6tds)
INTs: Tied for 1st (1int) I removed the 10 players with zero ints who are listed from gadget plays or fill in stuff
QBR: 7th (71.1)
Rating: 6th (103.1)
Sacks: Tied for 1st (2)

We've got ourselves a top 10 QB boys. Who also is a bust too though obviously.

Notably, his numbers are VERY similar to Hurts. Trevor has higher comp % and more passing TDs while Hurts has more yards and rushing TDs. I point this out because everyone is hyped on Hurts (justifiably).

It's hard to rack up yards when the opponents keep giving you the ball inside their 30.

He's light years ahead of where he was last year. It's not even close. Sure, at times, he's been a little off target or had some lucky breaks (dropped picks). However, the overall arm talent, accuracy, decision making, feeling of the pressure, sliding around from the pocket, etc. It's all there. Don't forget Etienne dropped an easy TD in week one and Agnew dropped an absolute dime last week.

He's improved in every contest this year though. He's only going to get better with Pederson and within this system. They'll also keep adding pieces around him offensively. I think the next big step for him is just getting off to a faster start. Settling in faster and getting into a good rhythm.

He's executing when he needs to execute and he's putting the ball where it needs to be. It's hard to find anything right now to nitpick him for but he's clearly getting much, much more comfortable and confident from the pocket. You're going to eventually run into a game, probably this one coming up next, where, your defense is not going to get as luck at getting a takeaway or two.

For some reason I just think Pederson and Lawrence will manage the game and figure out a way to win more times than not though.

Here's a little Baldy Breakdown

https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...fsrc=email