(10-17-2022, 04:25 PM)MyKids Wrote: [ -> ] (10-15-2022, 03:04 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]There you go again.
Andrew Luck was a 54% passer his rookie year and he threw 18 Ints. Lamar Jackson got 7 starts and went 58% with 6 TDs and 3 picks, Watson played well in limited games before his knee injury. Wilson went to a .500-ish team in Seattle and played well. You seem to have this penchant for warping history to your preferred narrative even if it means you have to ignore the facts. Of course you also choose to omit that most of those guys went to teams that were light years better than the Jaguars. But that's to be expected. Shame.
Luck put up 4,374 yards in his rookie year while getting sacked a total of 41 times, throwing the ball to nobodies....You want to talk about his team that year? Let's see, Reggie Wayne way past his prime. The biggest weapon he had was TY Hilton. They were historicially the worst team to go 11-5 that year. Luck winning 4 playoff games with that garbage is impressive itself. He was ranked top 10 QB both in 2012 and 2013. Better than Lawrence.
Lamar took over for Joe Flacco Ravens that were (4-5) to start the season, he took over and led Baltimore on a 6-1 run to end the regular season, helping the team make the playoffs for the first time since 2014. That's impressive in itself. Better than Lawrence.
Watson had six starts in his rookie year, with 19 TDs and 8 INTs with 1,700 throwing yards. Your boy lawrence had more picks than throwing TDs in a total of 17 games last year.
Oh, I see you're back. Spent yesterday cheering on your real teams did you? Anyhow, everything you said there merely validates that I'm still right and you're still wrong. Good work!
(10-17-2022, 04:29 PM)MyKids Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2022, 02:29 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Lawrence is damned he if does, damned if he doesn't with some of the folks on here. Regardless of how solid his performance was. The reality is that, he took 10:00 minutes off the clock in the 4th quarter, went all the way downfield and scored a TD to take the lead with a little more than 2:00 minutes.
The defense, as they showed all [BLEEP] day, could not get off the football field and they couldn't put Ryan on his [BLEEP]. When the game was on the line, they choked. In particular. Griffin choked. He should be liable for giving back at least 1% of his cap hit he carries on this team's roster for that kind of performance.
He's the veteran of the secondary. He's one of the more experienced players we have defensively. Has at least one pro-bowl credited to his name and he's the highest paid player on the football team. That kind of [BLEEP] simply cannot happen. It's inexcusable. He got absolutely HANDLED yesterday by a rookie.
Lawrence got outplayed by a 39 year old grandpa at QB last Sunday.
Correction
The Defence got outplayed by a 39year old grandpa
What last game proved to all of us is that if the JAX are going to win games is going have to be led by our two good runnings backs and maybe a solid? defense.... some days.....
Pederson should really consider switching our run and pass ratio in favor of the running game.
This team is not a PASS first team because we don't have the QB for it. We need to kill other teams by running the ball and maybe limiting Trevors chances of making stupid mistakes like throwing picks or taking sacks.
Even the last drive that led to the TD was set up by the run.
The faster Pederson realizes this is the better.
(10-17-2022, 04:31 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2022, 04:25 PM)MyKids Wrote: [ -> ]Luck put up 4,374 yards in his rookie year while getting sacked a total of 41 times, throwing the ball to nobodies....You want to talk about his team that year? Let's see, Reggie Wayne way past his prime. The biggest weapon he had was TY Hilton. They were historicially the worst team to go 11-5 that year. Luck winning 4 playoff games with that garbage is impressive itself. He was ranked top 10 QB both in 2012 and 2013. Better than Lawrence.
Lamar took over for Joe Flacco Ravens that were (4-5) to start the season, he took over and led Baltimore on a 6-1 run to end the regular season, helping the team make the playoffs for the first time since 2014. That's impressive in itself. Better than Lawrence.
Watson had six starts in his rookie year, with 19 TDs and 8 INTs with 1,700 throwing yards. Your boy lawrence had more picks than throwing TDs in a total of 17 games last year.
Oh, I see you're back. Spent yesterday cheering on your real teams did you? Anyhow, everything you said there merely validates that I'm still right and you're still wrong. Good work!
You are defeated.
Have a good day. And please never ever talk about the QB position. You are outclassed.
(10-17-2022, 04:46 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2022, 04:29 PM)MyKids Wrote: [ -> ]Lawrence got outplayed by a 39 year old grandpa at QB last Sunday.
Correction
The Defence got outplayed by a 39year old grandpa
Trevor had like 59 passing yards in the first half. LOL!
GENERATIONAL TALENT !
(10-17-2022, 04:53 PM)MyKids Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2022, 04:31 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, I see you're back. Spent yesterday cheering on your real teams did you? Anyhow, everything you said there merely validates that I'm still right and you're still wrong. Good work!
You are defeated.
Have a good day. And please never ever talk about the QB position. You are outclassed.
(10-17-2022, 04:46 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: [ -> ]Correction
The Defence got outplayed by a 39year old grandpa
Trevor had like 59 passing yards in the first half. LOL!
GENERATIONAL TALENT !
Lol, says you. It's not my fault you shot your mouth off, maybe think before you put your booger hooks to the keyboard next time.
(10-17-2022, 08:14 AM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't understand this passing chart. It is nothing like the passing chart for any other game this season.
Is this is more play designs/calls or him being too tentative to pull the trigger between the numbers?
![[Image: pass-chart_LAW514099_2022-REG-6_1665952889439.jpeg]](https://charts-cdn-c.nextgenstats.nfl.com/static-charts/900/pass-chart_LAW514099_2022-REG-6_1665952889439.jpeg)
All the short pass completions are quite encouraging. It means that TL wasn’t firing the ball in like a rocket and making it difficult to catch. Only one incompletion for a short pass (<15 yards).
Discouraging is that deep balls (15+ yards) were only tried 3 times (14% of attempts). I know the run game was successful, but that sort of ratio will see JAX increasingly facing stacked boxes. Until the deep ball forces opponents to play more honestly, they will not need to fear the long ball. Particularly if they feel they can score a reasonable amount in return.
But you have to start somewhere and I think it is wise for Pederson to pursue a ‘die slowly’ plan that will keep you in a game rather than try to create a more balanced passing attack which we have seen is not reliable. If JAX settles too predictably into a run or short pass only scheme, then they will be far too easy to keep in check as the season progresses. Still, you have to make completions to have an offence so this is a start. If TL can consistently deliver this performance then he can start adding to it in the second half. We’ll see if that happens.
As to people complaining that TL critics are expecting him to do everything… this is the NFL right? 90% or more of a team’s success rests solely on the QB’s shoulders. Ask Barry Sanders or Walter Payton about that. Metcalf may have some ideas. At the top level the QB is the man. His performance sets the ceiling for the team’s performance. That’s how it is and why they get paid all the biggest bucks. Facts.
(10-17-2022, 04:48 PM)MyKids Wrote: [ -> ]What last game proved to all of us is that if the JAX are going to win games is going have to be led by our two good runnings backs and maybe a solid? defense.... some days.....
Pederson should really consider switching our run and pass ratio in favor of the running game.
This team is not a PASS first team because we don't have the QB for it. We need to kill other teams by running the ball and maybe limiting Trevors chances of making stupid mistakes like throwing picks or taking sacks.
Even the last drive that led to the TD was set up by the run.
The faster Pederson realizes this is the better.
(10-17-2022, 09:47 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2022, 08:14 AM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't understand this passing chart. It is nothing like the passing chart for any other game this season.
Is this is more play designs/calls or him being too tentative to pull the trigger between the numbers?
All the short pass completions are quite encouraging. It means that TL wasn’t firing the ball in like a rocket and making it difficult to catch. Only one incompletion for a short pass (<15 yards).
Discouraging is that deep balls (15+ yards) were only tried 3 times (14% of attempts). I know the run game was successful, but that sort of ratio will see JAX increasingly facing stacked boxes. Until the deep ball forces opponents to play more honestly, they will not need to fear the long ball. Particularly if they feel they can score a reasonable amount in return.
But you have to start somewhere and I think it is wise for Pederson to pursue a ‘die slowly’ plan that will keep you in a game rather than try to create a more balanced passing attack which we have seen is not reliable. If JAX settles too predictably into a run or short pass only scheme, then they will be far too easy to keep in check as the season progresses. Still, you have to make completions to have an offence so this is a start. If TL can consistently deliver this performance then he can start adding to it in the second half. We’ll see if that happens.
As to people complaining that TL critics are expecting him to do everything… this is the NFL right? 90% or more of a team’s success rests solely on the QB’s shoulders. Ask Barry Sanders or Walter Payton about that. Metcalf may have some ideas. At the top level the QB is the man. His performance sets the ceiling for the team’s performance. That’s how it is and why they get paid all the biggest bucks. Facts.
Interesting that two trolls pushing the same narrative are the only two posters that refer to the Jags as JAX on here.
Ha! JAAAAAAAAAAAAXXXXXX!
I don’t know about the other guy, but for me just look to the friendly skies and the airport code for Jacksonville. Sinister.
(10-17-2022, 09:58 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2022, 04:48 PM)MyKids Wrote: [ -> ]What last game proved to all of us is that if the JAX are going to win games is going have to be led by our two good runnings backs and maybe a solid? defense.... some days.....
Pederson should really consider switching our run and pass ratio in favor of the running game.
This team is not a PASS first team because we don't have the QB for it. We need to kill other teams by running the ball and maybe limiting Trevors chances of making stupid mistakes like throwing picks or taking sacks.
Even the last drive that led to the TD was set up by the run.
The faster Pederson realizes this is the better.
(10-17-2022, 09:47 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]All the short pass completions are quite encouraging. It means that TL wasn’t firing the ball in like a rocket and making it difficult to catch. Only one incompletion for a short pass (<15 yards).
Discouraging is that deep balls (15+ yards) were only tried 3 times (14% of attempts). I know the run game was successful, but that sort of ratio will see JAX increasingly facing stacked boxes. Until the deep ball forces opponents to play more honestly, they will not need to fear the long ball. Particularly if they feel they can score a reasonable amount in return.
But you have to start somewhere and I think it is wise for Pederson to pursue a ‘die slowly’ plan that will keep you in a game rather than try to create a more balanced passing attack which we have seen is not reliable. If JAX settles too predictably into a run or short pass only scheme, then they will be far too easy to keep in check as the season progresses. Still, you have to make completions to have an offence so this is a start. If TL can consistently deliver this performance then he can start adding to it in the second half. We’ll see if that happens.
As to people complaining that TL critics are expecting him to do everything… this is the NFL right? 90% or more of a team’s success rests solely on the QB’s shoulders. Ask Barry Sanders or Walter Payton about that. Metcalf may have some ideas. At the top level the QB is the man. His performance sets the ceiling for the team’s performance. That’s how it is and why they get paid all the biggest bucks. Facts.
Interesting that two trolls pushing the same narrative are the only two posters that refer to the Jags as JAX on here.
That's because they're not really Jacksonville fans they're just trolls.... And it's clear because their arguments are baseless and ridiculous at best.... They can't even keep up with the [BLEEP] their saying.. constantly contradicting themselves and stating false information
There's always one new troll every year
(10-17-2022, 09:58 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting that two trolls pushing the same narrative are the only two posters that refer to the Jags as JAX on here.
I was just about to post this right here...
Who tf refers to the Jags as "JAX" as Jaguars fans?
Trolls seem like Jets fans to me.
(10-17-2022, 10:56 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2022, 09:58 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting that two trolls pushing the same narrative are the only two posters that refer to the Jags as JAX on here.
I was just about to post this right here...
Who tf refers to the Jags as "JAX" as Jaguars fans?
Trolls seem like Jets fans to me.
We are going to keep getting them until things start turning around.
I feel like some of them are the types who would legitimately not cheer if this team did something positive because they have dug their heels in so deep in their [BLEEP] witch hunt for TL that they will have to die on that hill and pout at anything successful. There are some who obvious trolls but some seem like overly full of [BLEEP] fans.
(10-17-2022, 11:11 PM)JagsorDie Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2022, 10:56 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]I was just about to post this right here...
Who tf refers to the Jags as "JAX" as Jaguars fans?
Trolls seem like Jets fans to me.
We are going to keep getting them until things start turning around.
I feel like some of them are the types who would legitimately not cheer if this team did something positive because they have dug their heels in so deep in their [BLEEP] witch hunt for TL that they will have to die on that hill and pout at anything successful. There are some who obvious trolls but some seem like overly full of [BLEEP] fans.
They aren't even real fans of this team lol. Just a few dumb [BLEEP] with nothing better to do than post some dumb [BLEEP] here. Kinda sad actually.
I wouldn't say anyone that criticizes him isn't a real fan. I've criticized him. I've praised him. I'm not as big on the hype that some of you are though. And I don't put this last loss on him.
(10-17-2022, 11:28 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't say anyone that criticizes him isn't a real fan. I've criticized him. I've praised him. I'm not as big on the hype that some of you are though. And I don't put this last loss on him.
I didn't say they aren't a real Jags fan because they criticize Lawrence. Its how they post in general which makes it obvious they actually aren't real fans of this team. They just harp on Lawrence because its the easiest way to get responses from some people on here, which is exactly what they want.
(10-17-2022, 04:58 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2022, 04:53 PM)MyKids Wrote: [ -> ]You are defeated.
Have a good day. And please never ever talk about the QB position. You are outclassed.
Trevor had like 59 passing yards in the first half. LOL!
GENERATIONAL TALENT !
Lol, says you. It's not my fault you shot your mouth off, maybe think before you put your booger hooks to the keyboard next time.
Poor guy. It's not my fault that you're exception level for a QB is at all time low. But honestly dude, sad attempt at an insult. Just print yourself a t-shirt that says "I can't pull" and people will understand you, even the ones that are all in the Trevor hype train....
But then again you are forgiven. This franchise has offered us [BLEEP] QB play for decades that we tend to forget what real QB play looks like.