(10-09-2022, 04:07 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Whole lot of post game hand wringing going on LOL
You’re a fairly reasonable poster. It’s no hand wringing. We gained plenty of yards. And Trevor couldn’t get it down against the worst team and worst pass defense in the league. That is not a high expectation for a number one pick in his second year with a decent offensive system
(10-03-2022, 08:35 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 08:09 AM)rumpleteazer Wrote: [ -> ]It’s amazing that we live in a world where fans of such a bloody game like football legitimately can’t take criticism about their terrible players.
1. This is actually my first account and any mod here can IP check and prove this
2. What metric says that Trevor is the best QB from his class?
Overall arm talent: That’s obviously Zach Wilson
Overall athleticism: Thats obviously Justin Fields
Overall accuracy: that’s obviously Mac Jones
Overall QB IQ: that’s obviously Mac Jones
Ability to read NFL defense: Mac Jones
Ability to lead the WR: Mac Jones
Please let’s have the discussion without the “yOuR a TrOlL” bush league nonsense
What metric? Try just about all of them troll.
https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/news/jagu...1-qb-class
You're merely stating an opinion while I'm using actual data AND the eye test. Mac Jones and Davis Mills? Get a grip.
I have a grip , do you have yours yet?
(10-09-2022, 04:07 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Whole lot of post game hand wringing going on LOL
Well the Homer's gloat when he has a good occasional game. The criticism is deserved.
(10-09-2022, 04:12 PM)rumpleteazer Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 08:35 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]What metric? Try just about all of them troll.
https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/news/jagu...1-qb-class
You're merely stating an opinion while I'm using actual data AND the eye test. Mac Jones and Davis Mills? Get a grip.
I have a grip , do you have yours yet?
He’s better then the other QBs of this class but that’s not saying much, you’re still wrong and still a troll
If TLAW gives us the best chance to win, we are in trouble. If this is the way he is in practice they need to sit him. Whats the worst thing that could happen if he was benched? We already have horrible QB play, so starting CJ would be the same thing. He's not playing well enough to be a starting QB right now
(10-09-2022, 04:12 PM)rumpleteazer Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 08:35 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]What metric? Try just about all of them troll.
https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/news/jagu...1-qb-class
You're merely stating an opinion while I'm using actual data AND the eye test. Mac Jones and Davis Mills? Get a grip.
I have a grip , do you have yours yet?
Mills was TERRRRRIBLE today. He didn’t help your case loser
You know what's the worst part? Trevor is playing for the guy that made Wentz look like an MVP and won a SB with Nick Foles...
And no, his game vs Chargers wasn't that good, it was merely ok. He pretty much threw 2 picks in that game.
He better improve a lot soon or we should really start looking for a new QB.
(10-09-2022, 04:18 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 04:12 PM)rumpleteazer Wrote: [ -> ]I have a grip , do you have yours yet?
Mills was TERRRRRIBLE today. He didn’t help your case loser
Yes, he was almost as bad as Trevor.
The 2021 class has been terrible so far. Mills is somewhat excused because he was never meant to be the starter but the first round picks are all moving towards bust territory.
(10-09-2022, 04:12 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 04:07 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Whole lot of post game hand wringing going on LOL
Well the Homer's gloat when he has a good occasional game. The criticism is deserved.
The criticism is definitely earned, but way too early to bail on TLaw. Dude finally has a legit HC, gotta give him some time and see what they can do.
Hes not lived up to the investment.
Got to the end of the 2023 season for me and if no improvement, hes out. Lost years on this team screwing around with guys like Leftwich, Bortles and Gabbert.
I'm still all in on Lawrence.
You enjoy your week saying how you were all right, you'll all be gone again when he wins us games again.
(10-09-2022, 04:19 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]You know what's the worst part? Trevor is playing for the guy that made Wentz look like an MVP and won a SB with Nick Foles...
And no, his game vs Chargers wasn't that good, it was merely ok. He pretty much threw 2 picks in that game.
This is a point I don't think I've seen around here but it is true and is a huge red flag.
Like you said Pederson made two decidedly average quarterbacks look great. Foles is another guy who's great when his pocket is clean. Just sayin'
Cleatwood
(10-09-2022, 04:12 PM)rumpleteazer Wrote: [ -> ]I have a grip , do you have yours yet?
Mills was TERRRRRIBLE today. He didn’t help your case loser
Yup and Lawrence was awesome winner ?
(10-09-2022, 04:17 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 04:12 PM)rumpleteazer Wrote: [ -> ]I have a grip , do you have yours yet?
He’s better then the other QBs of this class but that’s not saying much, you’re still wrong and still a troll
He don’t look better than Wilson though so idk how that’s possible but okay ?
(10-09-2022, 04:19 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 04:18 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Mills was TERRRRRIBLE today. He didn’t help your case loser
Yes, he was almost as bad as Trevor.
The 2021 class has been terrible so far. Mills is somewhat excused because he was never meant to be the starter but the first round picks are all moving towards bust territory.
Zach Wilson hasn’t been terrible so far
Why are you guys lying ? ??
(10-09-2022, 04:10 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 04:07 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Whole lot of post game hand wringing going on LOL
Well, anyone can see our QB lost us the game for the 2nd week in a row.
What would it take for you to blame Trevor?
Yea Trevor hurt us at times today. So did Taylor's holding that took away a catch that would of put us in a 1st and goal situation. So did Walker's dumb [BLEEP] penalty. So did the drops. So did Doug's play calling at times. I'll never understand lining up in shotgun when you need 1 yard.
I'm sure this wont be Lawrence's last bad game, but just one person simply doesn't lose a football game.
(10-09-2022, 04:19 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]You know what's the worst part? Trevor is playing for the guy that made Wentz look like an MVP and won a SB with Nick Foles...
And no, his game vs Chargers wasn't that good, it was merely ok. He pretty much threw 2 picks in that game.
He better improve a lot soon or we should really start looking for a new QB.
Best point of the thread so far.
(10-09-2022, 04:25 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 04:10 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]Well, anyone can see our QB lost us the game for the 2nd week in a row.
What would it take for you to blame Trevor?
Yea Trevor hurt us at times today. So did Taylor's holding that took away a catch that would of put us in a 1st and goal situation. So did Walker's dumb [BLEEP] penalty. So did the drops. So did Doug's play calling at times. I'll never understand lining up in shotgun when you need 1 yard.
I'm sure this wont be Lawrence's last bad game, but just one person simply doesn't lose a football game.
No but Trevor was the biggest reason we lost today. This offense had 6 points at home to the worst team in the league. That pick in the endzone, the multiple over throws and WRs that were missed when open that he didnt see is why we lost. You are one of the only ones that cant see it.
(10-09-2022, 04:20 PM)staropramen Wrote: [ -> ]Hes not lived up to the investment.
Got to the end of the 2023 season for me and if no improvement, hes out. Lost years on this team screwing around with guys like Leftwich, Bortles and Gabbert.
You gonna call him into your office personally to fire him? LOL.
He's going to be the QB of this team throughout 2024, at the very least.
(10-09-2022, 04:07 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Whole lot of post game hand wringing going on LOL
Not unwarranted hand wringing tbh.
(10-09-2022, 04:28 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 04:25 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Yea Trevor hurt us at times today. So did Taylor's holding that took away a catch that would of put us in a 1st and goal situation. So did Walker's dumb [BLEEP] penalty. So did the drops. So did Doug's play calling at times. I'll never understand lining up in shotgun when you need 1 yard.
I'm sure this wont be Lawrence's last bad game, but just one person simply doesn't lose a football game.
No but Trevor was the biggest reason we lost today. This offense had 6 points at home to the worst team in the league. That pick in the endzone, the multiple over throws and WRs that were missed when open that he didnt see is why we lost.
I just don't get how it's all Lawrence's fault. Did the run game show up? Did the Oline dominate? Did the receivers make big plays?
Yes Lawrence had a bad game but that it's all on him and only on him is what i just don't get.
(10-09-2022, 04:28 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 04:25 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Yea Trevor hurt us at times today. So did Taylor's holding that took away a catch that would of put us in a 1st and goal situation. So did Walker's dumb [BLEEP] penalty. So did the drops. So did Doug's play calling at times. I'll never understand lining up in shotgun when you need 1 yard.
I'm sure this wont be Lawrence's last bad game, but just one person simply doesn't lose a football game.
No but Trevor was the biggest reason we lost today. This offense had 6 points at home to the worst team in the league. That pick in the endzone, the multiple over throws and WRs that were missed when open that he didnt see is why we lost. You are one of the only ones that cant see it.
Oh I can see it. He had a bad game. No reason to lose sleep or freak out over it like some are.