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So much negative energy for a young QB less than 2 seasons in. If Mitch Trubiski, Daniel Jones, Kirk Cousins, Jameis Windows, Blake Bortles, etc, etc get 4 seasons+ to prove themselves in the league, you can be assured Trevor will get at least the same amount of time.

(10-23-2022, 07:00 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 06:50 PM)ClemsonRob Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty sure Trevor could dice up the Jags D on a final drive if he got the chance. Lol. Ryan looks good against horrible D…

I can’t argue that but at the same time until he does it; objectively you have to question it.  Sure last week he drove the team down for a go ahead score but there were 10 minutes on the clock.

Dude.  Come on man. He has legit been clutch the last 2 weeks. 

The defense is letting this team down. No sacks or turnovers.

(10-23-2022, 07:05 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 07:00 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]I can’t argue that but at the same time until he does it; objectively you have to question it.  Sure last week he drove the team down for a go ahead score but there were 10 minutes on the clock.

Dude.  Come on man. He has legit been clutch the last 2 weeks. 

The defense is letting this team down. No sacks or turnovers.

He threw the absolute worst interception today and got bailed out on a penalty. I will say the throw that got us down to the 35 was a beauty

(10-23-2022, 07:00 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 06:50 PM)ClemsonRob Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty sure Trevor could dice up the Jags D on a final drive if he got the chance. Lol. Ryan looks good against horrible D…

I can’t argue that but at the same time until he does it; objectively you have to question it.  Sure last week he drove the team down for a go ahead score but there were 10 minutes on the clock.

Fair point. I would argue there was 2:30 when he put us ahead last week, but your point is also valid. That wasn’t a “down 4 w 2 minutes to go” drive.

(10-23-2022, 07:03 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]So much negative energy for a young QB less than 2 seasons in. If Mitch Trubiski, Daniel Jones, Kirk Cousins, Jameis Windows, Blake Bortles, etc, etc get 4 seasons+ to prove themselves in the league, you can be assured Trevor will get at least the same amount of time.

Exactly, which is why I find it hilarious when people come on here saying "I'm done with him if x/y/z". Like really? You going to fire him? Him and Doug aren't going anywhere for AT LEAST another 2 1/2 seasons, at that's the minimum.

(10-23-2022, 07:05 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 07:00 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]I can’t argue that but at the same time until he does it; objectively you have to question it.  Sure last week he drove the team down for a go ahead score but there were 10 minutes on the clock.

Dude.  Come on man. He has legit been clutch the last 2 weeks. 

The defense is letting this team down. No sacks or turnovers.

With 2:00 on the clock and down by 6 how much confidence do you have that Trevor will put the team on his back and put it in the endzone?

(10-23-2022, 07:06 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 07:05 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Dude.  Come on man. He has legit been clutch the last 2 weeks. 

The defense is letting this team down. No sacks or turnovers.

He threw the absolute worst interception today and got bailed out on a penalty. I will say the throw that got us down to the 35 was a beauty

I thought it was a terrible throw at first, until I saw the replay. There was miscommunication between him and his WR. Not sure who was at fault. I definitely think he needs to settle down on his passes. He throws high WAY too much for a guy with his talent.

(10-23-2022, 07:10 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 07:05 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Dude.  Come on man. He has legit been clutch the last 2 weeks. 

The defense is letting this team down. No sacks or turnovers.

With 2:00 on the clock and down by 6 how much confidence do you have that Trevor will put the team on his back and put it in the endzone?

I have way more faith that Trevor will lead a TD drive than I do the defense making a stop with 2 minutes left. That’s for sure.

(10-23-2022, 07:06 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 07:03 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]So much negative energy for a young QB less than 2 seasons in. If Mitch Trubiski, Daniel Jones, Kirk Cousins, Jameis Windows, Blake Bortles, etc, etc get 4 seasons+ to prove themselves in the league, you can be assured Trevor will get at least the same amount of time.

Exactly, which is why I find it hilarious when people come on here saying "I'm done with him if x/y/z". Like really? You going to fire him? Him and Doug aren't going anywhere for AT LEAST another 2 1/2 seasons, at that's the minimum.

Exactly. Shad isn't getting rid of them anytime soon and I doubt we'll see Doug in a bar doing an Urban.

People should settle in for the ride.

Lawrence has plenty of time. They'll keep going after players to build around him. A receiving threat at TE and a tall, rangy receiver to work with on the outside will more than likely be their top priorities in the off season.

I still hope they can resign Evan Engram and Dan Arnold while still adding a high value pick to the group. Geisicki and Schultz are free agents as well.

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(10-23-2022, 07:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 07:10 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]With 2:00 on the clock and down by 6 how much confidence do you have that Trevor will put the team on his back and put it in the endzone?

I have way more faith that Trevor will lead a TD drive than I do the defense making a stop with 2 minutes left. That’s for sure.

Fair point but that wasn’t the question.

(10-23-2022, 07:16 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Lawrence has plenty of time. They'll keep going after players to build around him. A receiving threat at TE and a tall, rangy receiver to work with on the outside will more than likely be their top priorities in the off season.

I still hope they can resign Evan Engram and Dan Arnold while still adding a high value pick to the group. Geisicki and Schultz are free agents as well.

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I agree and one thing i do want is for us to be aggressive and go and get the players we want. Not necessarily waiting for FA and getting into bidding wars but if we see someone we like, make a trade, send a draft pick. Getting a proven player with a 3rd rounder is better than taking a chance on a 3rd rounder. Get the players they want that fit and excel in the system they want. No more square pegs in round holes.

(10-23-2022, 07:17 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 07:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]I have way more faith that Trevor will lead a TD drive than I do the defense making a stop with 2 minutes left. That’s for sure.

Fair point but that wasn’t the question.

I do have faith he can do it but it’s not like he’s gonna do it every time. 

Chiefs fans have faith in Mahomes but last week, he threw a pick on the last drive. It happens.

(10-23-2022, 07:22 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 07:17 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Fair point but that wasn’t the question.

I do have faith he can do it but it’s not like he’s gonna do it every time. 

Chiefs fans have faith in Mahomes but last week, he threw a pick on the last drive. It happens.

I just want to get to the point where we expect it to happen when necessary, not hope it happens and that is my point.

(10-23-2022, 07:16 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Lawrence has plenty of time. They'll keep going after players to build around him. A receiving threat at TE and a tall, rangy receiver to work with on the outside will more than likely be their top priorities in the off season.

I still hope they can resign Evan Engram and Dan Arnold while still adding a high value pick to the group. Geisicki and Schultz are free agents as well.

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I'd like another TE too but I hope we are able to bring Engram back as well.  He has improved his blocking a ton.

If you guys really think trevor is the problem them you don't know football.

(10-23-2022, 06:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 06:24 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]Because it is. You cannot expect to be able to draft a sure thing QB at No 1 ever. And if you build a 0.500 or competitive  team around has-been free agents at QB, then you still end up having to trading up and guessing on prospects in the top 10, most of whom will fail. 

GMs/Teams have to shoot your shot at least some times, even if they know it may or will likely fail. You cannot just keep putting it off.

My point is those people changed their tune pretty damn fast.

Someone who stubbornly refuses to change their opinion in the face overwhelming evidence to the contrary is not commendable.

My journey mirrors many on this thread:

1. - Yeah for Lawrence
2. - Give him more time, he will progress
3. - He’s not progressing, instead seemingly stuck making the same fundamental mistakes
4. - Time is up

Certainly I reached step four (at the end of last season) long before others did, but that’s just personal difference.  A few diehards are still in step 1.  Most TL supporters are in step 2.  It seems these last few games have moved many Jags fans to step 3.  He’s dangerously close to becoming an overwhelming favourite of step 4.

Personally, I don’t think the Jags organisation will reach step four until the middle of next year.  TL is showing just enough capability to avoid the wisened leaders of the organisation making a final judgement like mine.  But they will have little choice if he keeps this up.  The interception that was fortunately overturned by an interference call was pure panicked play-making instincts.  Day one stuff that he still can’t overcome.  He needs to panic that ball out of bounds, not just anywhere his arm may be pointing.  It’s a worry.

(10-23-2022, 07:43 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 06:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]My point is those people changed their tune pretty damn fast.

Someone who stubbornly refuses to change their opinion in the face overwhelming evidence to the contrary is not commendable.

My journey mirrors many on this thread:

1. - Yeah for Lawrence
2. - Give him more time, he will progress
3. - He’s not progressing, instead seemingly stuck making the same fundamental mistakes
4. - Time is up

Certainly I reached step four (at the end of last season) long before others did, but that’s just personal difference.  A few diehards are still in step 1.  Most TL supporters are in step 2.  It seems these last few games have moved many Jags fans to step 3.  He’s dangerously close to becoming an overwhelming favourite of step 4.

Personally, I don’t think the Jags organisation will reach step four until the middle of next year.  TL is showing just enough capability to avoid the wisened leaders of the organisation making a final judgement like mine.  But they will have little choice if he keeps this up.  The interception that was fortunately overturned by an interference call was pure panicked play-making instincts.  Day one stuff that he still can’t overcome.  He needs to panic that ball out of bounds, not just anywhere his arm may be pointing.  It’s a worry.

(10-23-2022, 07:51 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 07:43 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]Someone who stubbornly refuses to change their opinion in the face overwhelming evidence to the contrary is not commendable.

My journey mirrors many on this thread:

1. - Yeah for Lawrence
2. - Give him more time, he will progress
3. - He’s not progressing, instead seemingly stuck making the same fundamental mistakes
4. - Time is up

Certainly I reached step four (at the end of last season) long before others did, but that’s just personal difference.  A few diehards are still in step 1.  Most TL supporters are in step 2.  It seems these last few games have moved many Jags fans to step 3.  He’s dangerously close to becoming an overwhelming favourite of step 4.

Personally, I don’t think the Jags organisation will reach step four until the middle of next year.  TL is showing just enough capability to avoid the wisened leaders of the organisation making a final judgement like mine.  But they will have little choice if he keeps this up.  The interception that was fortunately overturned by an interference call was pure panicked play-making instincts.  Day one stuff that he still can’t overcome.  He needs to panic that ball out of bounds, not just anywhere his arm may be pointing.  It’s a worry.

Ha!  If there was ever a response that better proved the point of a post then I want to see it.  Classic.

And that's just it, you keep saying you're quitting on him while he's playing better each week. It's like you're watching the game upside down.