(10-01-2023, 09:05 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 06:24 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ].
I also already explained to you how I feel about Taylor. So stop trying to put words in my mouth. Disagree with me - but don't misrepresent what I've said. I don't hate him, don't love him. I'm neutral.
It's hard to be neutral with Press Taylor to be honest. We have the talent to be a top 5 offense and all he does is call dumb [BLEEP] plays.. that hinder our flow on offense. Seems to me that Doug is being lazy this year since he is letting this idiot hold the keys to the offense.
It's fine/fair to have that opinion.
Personally I think that besides the high number of runs between the tackles he's calling the same stuff we called last year.
Was Doug better at mixing it up?
Yeah - I think he kept defenses more off balance - but the tape doesn't lie - and the calls Taylor is making are good enough to score more than we are scoring. We just aren't executing the called plays well too frequently. I'm a football nerd, so I watch the all 22 replays every week and analyze what went wrong on the bad plays.
Ive been watching football and learning from people smarter than me for enough years to get most of that analysis right. So I feel pretty confident in my opinion.
Would I prefer Pederson was calling the plays? Absolutely.
I just see plenty of meat left on the bone every week with Taylors calls and our offense isn't cleaning it up.
Hope that helps you understand my perspective.
I'm not championing Taylor, I just see our players screwing up what he called too much to bash the guy.
(10-01-2023, 09:16 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 09:05 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ]It's hard to be neutral with Press Taylor to be honest. We have the talent to be a top 5 offense and all he does is call dumb [BLEEP] plays.. that hinder our flow on offense. Seems to me that Doug is being lazy this year since he is letting this idiot hold the keys to the offense.
It's fine/fair to have that opinion.
Personally I think that besides the high number of runs between the tackles he's calling the same stuff we called last year.
Was Doug better at mixing it up?
Yeah - I think he kept defenses more off balance - but the tape doesn't lie - and the calls Taylor is making are good enough to score more than we are scoring. We just aren't executing the called plays well too frequently. I'm a football nerd, so I watch the all 22 replays every week and analyze what went wrong on the bad plays.
Ive been watching football and learning from people smarter than me for enough years to get most of that analysis right. So I feel pretty confident in my opinion.
Would I prefer Pederson was calling the plays? Absolutely.
I just see plenty of meat left on the bone every week with Taylors calls and our offense isn't cleaning it up.
Hope that helps you understand my perspective.
I'm not championing Taylor, I just see our players screwing up what he called too much to bash the guy.
So if the players are consistently screwing up, this tells me the opppositing DC is reading and has a real good feel of what we are going to draw up or call in the next play, unfortunately no matter how you slice it it falls on the coaches to adapt.
We have tons of talent on O - no reason we only score 1 TD all game. That's just borderline bad.
(10-01-2023, 09:20 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 09:16 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]It's fine/fair to have that opinion.
Personally I think that besides the high number of runs between the tackles he's calling the same stuff we called last year.
Was Doug better at mixing it up?
Yeah - I think he kept defenses more off balance - but the tape doesn't lie - and the calls Taylor is making are good enough to score more than we are scoring. We just aren't executing the called plays well too frequently. I'm a football nerd, so I watch the all 22 replays every week and analyze what went wrong on the bad plays.
Ive been watching football and learning from people smarter than me for enough years to get most of that analysis right. So I feel pretty confident in my opinion.
Would I prefer Pederson was calling the plays? Absolutely.
I just see plenty of meat left on the bone every week with Taylors calls and our offense isn't cleaning it up.
Hope that helps you understand my perspective.
I'm not championing Taylor, I just see our players screwing up what he called too much to bash the guy.
So if the players are consistently screwing up, this tells me the opppositing DC is reading and has a real good feel of what we are going to draw up or call in the next play, unfortunately no matter how you slice it it falls on the coaches to adapt.
We have tons of talent on O - no reason we only score 1 TD all game. That's just borderline bad.
Careful, your ability to figure out the obvious may draw the ire of "New York"
(10-01-2023, 09:16 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 09:05 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ]It's hard to be neutral with Press Taylor to be honest. We have the talent to be a top 5 offense and all he does is call dumb [BLEEP] plays.. that hinder our flow on offense. Seems to me that Doug is being lazy this year since he is letting this idiot hold the keys to the offense.
It's fine/fair to have that opinion.
Personally I think that besides the high number of runs between the tackles he's calling the same stuff we called last year.
Was Doug better at mixing it up?
Yeah - I think he kept defenses more off balance - but the tape doesn't lie - and the calls Taylor is making are good enough to score more than we are scoring. We just aren't executing the called plays well too frequently. I'm a football nerd, so I watch the all 22 replays every week and analyze what went wrong on the bad plays.
Ive been watching football and learning from people smarter than me for enough years to get most of that analysis right. So I feel pretty confident in my opinion.
Would I prefer Pederson was calling the plays? Absolutely.
I just see plenty of meat left on the bone every week with Taylors calls and our offense isn't cleaning it up.
Hope that helps you understand my perspective.
I'm not championing Taylor, I just see our players screwing up what he called too much to bash the guy.
apology accepted...
Let's move on, shall we?
(10-01-2023, 09:05 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 06:24 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ].
I also already explained to you how I feel about Taylor. So stop trying to put words in my mouth. Disagree with me - but don't misrepresent what I've said. I don't hate him, don't love him. I'm neutral.
It's hard to be neutral with Press Taylor to be honest. We have the talent to be a top 5 offense and all he does is call dumb [BLEEP] plays.. that hinder our flow on offense. Seems to me that Doug is being lazy this year since he is letting this idiot hold the keys to the offense.
ding ding ding
Idk if he's being lazy as much as he just doesn't want to call plays. I've had this conversation with my father about it, it's like he's so talented at it that he's bored or something.
(10-01-2023, 09:20 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 09:16 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]It's fine/fair to have that opinion.
Personally I think that besides the high number of runs between the tackles he's calling the same stuff we called last year.
Was Doug better at mixing it up?
Yeah - I think he kept defenses more off balance - but the tape doesn't lie - and the calls Taylor is making are good enough to score more than we are scoring. We just aren't executing the called plays well too frequently. I'm a football nerd, so I watch the all 22 replays every week and analyze what went wrong on the bad plays.
Ive been watching football and learning from people smarter than me for enough years to get most of that analysis right. So I feel pretty confident in my opinion.
Would I prefer Pederson was calling the plays? Absolutely.
I just see plenty of meat left on the bone every week with Taylors calls and our offense isn't cleaning it up.
Hope that helps you understand my perspective.
I'm not championing Taylor, I just see our players screwing up what he called too much to bash the guy.
So if the players are consistently screwing up, this tells me the opppositing DC is reading and has a real good feel of what we are going to draw up or call in the next play, unfortunately no matter how you slice it it falls on the coaches to adapt.
We have tons of talent on O - no reason we only score 1 TD all game. That's just borderline bad.
I don't think there's enough tape on Taylor's play calling to establish any deep rooted trends in his calls that defenses are jumping every little thing.
Also "players screwing up" and opposing DCs reading/anticipating plays are mutually exclusive.
Coaches can adapt - and players can execute better. Two different things. Improving both would be nice. Doesn't need to be one or the other.
(10-01-2023, 09:46 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 09:20 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ]So if the players are consistently screwing up, this tells me the opppositing DC is reading and has a real good feel of what we are going to draw up or call in the next play, unfortunately no matter how you slice it it falls on the coaches to adapt.
We have tons of talent on O - no reason we only score 1 TD all game. That's just borderline bad.
I don't think there's enough tape on Taylor's play calling to establish any deep rooted trends in his calls that defenses are jumping every little thing.
Also "players screwing up" and opposing DCs reading/anticipating plays are mutually exclusive.
Coaches can adapt - and players can execute better. Two different things. Improving both would be nice. Doesn't need to be one or the other.
I'm not picking a fight here. But can we all just agree that this isn't the same offense we were seeing last year? We were so good last year. This isn't the same as last year. I just would like to know why that is....
I'm not saying that this O-Line is baller. But this O-Line is pretty much the same as last year. It's not the O-Line that is ruining the team. We're still moving the ball between the 20s. But we can't convert on 3rd and short, and we're not scoring in the Red Zone. None of that has anything to do with the O-Line.
This just isn't what we were watching last year. Maybe Pederson is just holding off until the December?
(10-01-2023, 10:08 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 09:46 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think there's enough tape on Taylor's play calling to establish any deep rooted trends in his calls that defenses are jumping every little thing.
Also "players screwing up" and opposing DCs reading/anticipating plays are mutually exclusive.
Coaches can adapt - and players can execute better. Two different things. Improving both would be nice. Doesn't need to be one or the other.
I'm not picking a fight here. But can we all just agree that this isn't the same offense we were seeing last year? We were so good last year. This isn't the same as last year. I just would like to know why that is....
I'm not saying that this O-Line is baller. But this O-Line is pretty much the same as last year. It's not the O-Line that is ruining the team. We're still moving the ball between the 20s. But we can't convert on 3rd and short, and we're not scoring in the Red Zone. None of that has anything to do with the O-Line.
This just isn't what we were watching last year. Maybe Pederson is just holding off until the December?
This team is 2 - 2 after four weeks just like last year.
It's been off to a slow start. Just like last year.
The only glaring differences are less turnovers on offense and better play on defense.
Maybe if Robinson is the missing key along the line to move Little inside to enable more time in the pocket things would look or even feel better.
We lead the NFL in dropped passes as well. I don't think we saw too many of those today unlike last week.
It's a good sign of things to come maybe.
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(10-01-2023, 10:08 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 09:46 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think there's enough tape on Taylor's play calling to establish any deep rooted trends in his calls that defenses are jumping every little thing.
Also "players screwing up" and opposing DCs reading/anticipating plays are mutually exclusive.
Coaches can adapt - and players can execute better. Two different things. Improving both would be nice. Doesn't need to be one or the other.
I'm not picking a fight here. But can we all just agree that this isn't the same offense we were seeing last year? We were so good last year. This isn't the same as last year. I just would like to know why that is....
I'm not saying that this O-Line is baller. But this O-Line is pretty much the same as last year. It's not the O-Line that is ruining the team. We're still moving the ball between the 20s. But we can't convert on 3rd and short, and we're not scoring in the Red Zone. None of that has anything to do with the O-Line.
This just isn't what we were watching last year. Maybe Pederson is just holding off until the December?
Are you daft? Nearly every problem on the offense is related to the poor play of the line. The hurried passes, the lack of running lanes, the inability to convert short yardage, even the choice of play selections...all because the linemen are getting whipped off the ball. The only thing that isn't their fault is the dropped TD passes that, had they simply caught the ball, would have had you off this ridiculous tangent you've been on for weeks. You just refuse to admit that the linemen simply aren't play very good.
(10-01-2023, 09:46 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 09:20 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ]So if the players are consistently screwing up, this tells me the opppositing DC is reading and has a real good feel of what we are going to draw up or call in the next play, unfortunately no matter how you slice it it falls on the coaches to adapt.
We have tons of talent on O - no reason we only score 1 TD all game. That's just borderline bad.
I don't think there's enough tape on Taylor's play calling to establish any deep rooted trends in his calls that defenses are jumping every little thing.
Also "players screwing up" and opposing DCs reading/anticipating plays are mutually exclusive.
Coaches can adapt - and players can execute better. Two different things. Improving both would be nice. Doesn't need to be one or the other.
The Texans defense knew what plays were being called. They had already figured out the trends in 2 weeks. Teams will have all the analysis given to them. I'm sure AI will tell you everything they are doing. The Jags are easy to beat right now because all the routes seem to be to the sidelines for the most part. The LBs aren't punished for looking at run first and they are stopping the RPOs
This week was a little better because Trevor didn't force passes that were not there and generally found open WRs. He still is holding the ball too long and not reading coverage to know where the open routes should be. Play calling needs to go back to what worked last year.
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(10-01-2023, 10:52 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 10:08 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not picking a fight here. But can we all just agree that this isn't the same offense we were seeing last year? We were so good last year. This isn't the same as last year. I just would like to know why that is....
I'm not saying that this O-Line is baller. But this O-Line is pretty much the same as last year. It's not the O-Line that is ruining the team. We're still moving the ball between the 20s. But we can't convert on 3rd and short, and we're not scoring in the Red Zone. None of that has anything to do with the O-Line.
This just isn't what we were watching last year. Maybe Pederson is just holding off until the December?
Are you daft? Nearly every problem on the offense is related to the poor play of the line. The hurried passes, the lack of running lanes, the inability to convert short yardage, even the choice of play selections...all because the linemen are getting whipped off the ball. The only thing that isn't their fault is the dropped TD passes that, had they simply caught the ball, would have had you off this ridiculous tangent you've been on for weeks. You just refuse to admit that the linemen simply aren't play very good.
Do you think our OL is the worst? Teams deal with bad oline too.... its not just us. Simply blaming the oline of the shortcomings is lazy analyst.
(10-01-2023, 10:59 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 09:46 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think there's enough tape on Taylor's play calling to establish any deep rooted trends in his calls that defenses are jumping every little thing.
Also "players screwing up" and opposing DCs reading/anticipating plays are mutually exclusive.
Coaches can adapt - and players can execute better. Two different things. Improving both would be nice. Doesn't need to be one or the other.
The Texans defense knew what plays were being called. They had already figured out the trends in 2 weeks. Teams will have all the analysis given to them. I'm sure AI will tell you everything they are doing. The Jags are easy to beat right now because all the routes seem to be to the sidelines for the most part. The LBs aren't punished for looking at run first and they are stopping the RPOs
This week was a little better because Trevor didn't force passes that were not there and generally found open WRs. He still is holding the ball too long and not reading coverage to know where the open routes should be. Play calling needs to go back to what worked last year.
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There's only one viable starting QB getting the ball out quicker than Lawrence (Tua) but he's holding the ball too long??
LOL
No
You're just blaming bad execution and crap OL play on the play calling.
I understand the tendency to do that, it's easy to blame the plays and not the players - but that doesn't make it correct.
Sorry. That's just a poor evaluation of what's really happening.
Press calls more runs between the tackles - and he doesn't mix his calls the same - but he's also hamstrung by worsened OL play compared to what Doug had last year. You have to look a bit harder - but it's there and plain to see if you look.
(10-01-2023, 10:52 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 10:08 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not picking a fight here. But can we all just agree that this isn't the same offense we were seeing last year? We were so good last year. This isn't the same as last year. I just would like to know why that is....
I'm not saying that this O-Line is baller. But this O-Line is pretty much the same as last year. It's not the O-Line that is ruining the team. We're still moving the ball between the 20s. But we can't convert on 3rd and short, and we're not scoring in the Red Zone. None of that has anything to do with the O-Line.
This just isn't what we were watching last year. Maybe Pederson is just holding off until the December?
Are you daft? Nearly every problem on the offense is related to the poor play of the line. The hurried passes, the lack of running lanes, the inability to convert short yardage, even the choice of play selections...all because the linemen are getting whipped off the ball. The only thing that isn't their fault is the dropped TD passes that, had they simply caught the ball, would have had you off this ridiculous tangent you've been on for weeks. You just refuse to admit that the linemen simply aren't play very good.
(10-01-2023, 11:05 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 10:52 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Are you daft? Nearly every problem on the offense is related to the poor play of the line. The hurried passes, the lack of running lanes, the inability to convert short yardage, even the choice of play selections...all because the linemen are getting whipped off the ball. The only thing that isn't their fault is the dropped TD passes that, had they simply caught the ball, would have had you off this ridiculous tangent you've been on for weeks. You just refuse to admit that the linemen simply aren't play very good.
Do you think our OL is the worst? Teams deal with bad oline too.... its not just us. Simply blaming the oline of the shortcomings is lazy analyst.
OL is similar to last year. Next week it should be better. While they aren't great, they are serviceable.
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(10-01-2023, 11:05 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 10:52 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Are you daft? Nearly every problem on the offense is related to the poor play of the line. The hurried passes, the lack of running lanes, the inability to convert short yardage, even the choice of play selections...all because the linemen are getting whipped off the ball. The only thing that isn't their fault is the dropped TD passes that, had they simply caught the ball, would have had you off this ridiculous tangent you've been on for weeks. You just refuse to admit that the linemen simply aren't play very good.
Do you think our OL is the worst? Teams deal with bad oline too.... its not just us. Simply blaming the oline of the shortcomings is lazy analyst.
Nope, the worst is probably the Bengals who are ruining Joe Burrow. We're lucky that Trevor hasn't been injured yet the way he gets knocked around all game. Last week there was plenty of blame to go around, but the one constant has been poor line play.
(10-01-2023, 11:09 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 10:52 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Are you daft? Nearly every problem on the offense is related to the poor play of the line. The hurried passes, the lack of running lanes, the inability to convert short yardage, even the choice of play selections...all because the linemen are getting whipped off the ball. The only thing that isn't their fault is the dropped TD passes that, had they simply caught the ball, would have had you off this ridiculous tangent you've been on for weeks. You just refuse to admit that the linemen simply aren't play very good.
(10-01-2023, 11:05 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ]Do you think our OL is the worst? Teams deal with bad oline too.... its not just us. Simply blaming the oline of the shortcomings is lazy analyst.
OL is similar to last year. Next week it should be better. While they aren't great, they are serviceable.
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They aren't even average. Little is fine, Bartch wasn't playing as well as he did last year, probably still not 100%, Fortner hasn't improved any is seems, Sherff is a year older, and Harrison is a rookie replacing Taylor who was solid last year. They aren't similar, they are definitely not where they were.
(10-01-2023, 11:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2023, 11:05 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: [ -> ]Do you think our OL is the worst? Teams deal with bad oline too.... its not just us. Simply blaming the oline of the shortcomings is lazy analyst.
Nope, the worst is probably the Bengals who are ruining Joe Burrow. We're lucky that Trevor hasn't been injured yet the way he gets knocked around all game. Last week there was plenty of blame to go around, but the one constant has been poor line play.
(10-01-2023, 11:09 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]OL is similar to last year. Next week it should be better. While they aren't great, they are serviceable.
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They aren't even average. Little is fine, Bartch wasn't playing as well as he did last year, probably still not 100%, Fortner hasn't improved any is seems, Sherff is a year older, and Harrison is a rookie replacing Taylor who was solid last year. They aren't similar, they are definitely not where they were.
Little, Campbell those two are legit in the OL. I'm just saying we could be worse without those too.
Bungholes, Tacks, Panthers are far worst OL units in the league than us...
We have three OL players grading in the 40's on PFF in pass pro
Was that the case last year ?
I don't necessarily dislike the plays they are calling, but I do dislike some of the decisions that they have made. Some of the 4th down decisions are headscratchers for me. Like yesterday, ahead 17-0, we should have kicked the FG instead of going for the first down. Because up 17-0, just a couple of FGs would put the game out of reach. We did wind up getting to 23, but I still don't like that decision to go for it in that situation. And I would add, that decision is not made by the OC. The head coach makes that decision.
But as for the play calling, the game plan is decided between the head coach and the offensive coordinator during the week. The decision to run the ball off tackle is made during the week. Press Taylor doesn't just pull that play out of his [BLEEP] during the game. He and Doug and everyone else has had a hand in the design of the game plan, and they've practiced those plays during the week. Then it's up to Trevor to either run the play or audible out of it, and it's up to the linemen to block effectively, and it's up to the back to run effectively. That running play that was going for 1 yard or those bubble screens are the result of a lengthy process with many people involved in the planning and execution. It's not just Press Taylor pulling plays out of his [BLEEP].
"Why aren't we as good as last year?" We weren't that great last year. We did get on a hot streak at the end of the season but we wound up 9-8. We're starting out a little cold this year but it's a long season.
(10-02-2023, 05:08 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I don't necessarily dislike the plays they are calling, but I do dislike some of the decisions that they have made. Some of the 4th down decisions are headscratchers for me. Like yesterday, ahead 17-0, we should have kicked the FG instead of going for the first down. Because up 17-0, just a couple of FGs would put the game out of reach. We did wind up getting to 23, but I still don't like that decision to go for it in that situation. And I would add, that decision is not made by the OC. The head coach makes that decision.
But as for the play calling, the game plan is decided between the head coach and the offensive coordinator during the week. The decision to run the ball off tackle is made during the week. Press Taylor doesn't just pull that play out of his [BLEEP] during the game. He and Doug and everyone else has had a hand in the design of the game plan, and they've practiced those plays during the week. Then it's up to Trevor to either run the play or audible out of it, and it's up to the linemen to block effectively, and it's up to the back to run effectively. That running play that was going for 1 yard or those bubble screens are the result of a lengthy process with many people involved in the planning and execution. It's not just Press Taylor pulling plays out of his [BLEEP].
"Why aren't we as good as last year?" We weren't that great last year. We did get on a hot streak at the end of the season but we wound up 9-8. We're starting out a little cold this year but it's a long season.
Exactly. This is the same team results we saw early from last year with a few minor differences. 2 - 2 squads after four weeks of football. The offense is turning it over less and the defense has played better. We're just seeing a lack of overall execution and spotty coaching decisions that resulted in either leaving points off the board or putting the team in a position to where the opponent scored on us.
Some sloppy stuff here and there in a few games. It's not all on Press. It's not all on the lineman. It's not all on the receivers. It's not all on Caldwell or Doug, etc. It's a collective effort to be 2 - 2 and it's really a soup of miscues, luck and good effort. That's why the team is 2 - 2. Coulda, woulda and shoulda in the two home losses between the tinhorns and Chiefs.
We're onto Buffalo now.
(10-02-2023, 06:16 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2023, 05:08 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I don't necessarily dislike the plays they are calling, but I do dislike some of the decisions that they have made. Some of the 4th down decisions are headscratchers for me. Like yesterday, ahead 17-0, we should have kicked the FG instead of going for the first down. Because up 17-0, just a couple of FGs would put the game out of reach. We did wind up getting to 23, but I still don't like that decision to go for it in that situation. And I would add, that decision is not made by the OC. The head coach makes that decision.
But as for the play calling, the game plan is decided between the head coach and the offensive coordinator during the week. The decision to run the ball off tackle is made during the week. Press Taylor doesn't just pull that play out of his [BLEEP] during the game. He and Doug and everyone else has had a hand in the design of the game plan, and they've practiced those plays during the week. Then it's up to Trevor to either run the play or audible out of it, and it's up to the linemen to block effectively, and it's up to the back to run effectively. That running play that was going for 1 yard or those bubble screens are the result of a lengthy process with many people involved in the planning and execution. It's not just Press Taylor pulling plays out of his [BLEEP].
"Why aren't we as good as last year?" We weren't that great last year. We did get on a hot streak at the end of the season but we wound up 9-8. We're starting out a little cold this year but it's a long season.
Exactly. This is the same team results we saw early from last year with a few minor differences. 2 - 2 squads after four weeks of football. The offense is turning it over less and the defense has played better. We're just seeing a lack of overall execution and spotty coaching decisions that resulted in either leaving points off the board or putting the team in a position to where the opponent scored on us.
Some sloppy stuff here and there in a few games. It's not all on Press. It's not all on the lineman. It's not all on the receivers. It's not all on Caldwell or Doug, etc. It's a collective effort to be 2 - 2 and it's really a soup of miscues, luck and good effort. That's why the team is 2 - 2. Coulda, woulda and shoulda in the two home losses between the tinhorns and Chiefs.
We're onto Buffalo now.
I think during the offseason, a lot of people, myself included, had selective memories about how great this offense was last year. I think we need to remember how the Titans strangled our offense the last game of the season, and how lucky we were to win that game. Otherwise, we would have been 8-9 last year and we would have not made the playoffs.
I think a lot of people thought the addition of Ridley would have an immediate positive effect. But I think it's taking some time to adjust to having him out there. The guy hasn't played a regular season game in a long time. It could take 6 or 7 games to get him really integrated into things with some positive effect.
The other thing to mention is that we are missing some players on offense. Yesterday, besides missing Zay Jones and Jamaal Agnew, we were down several offensive linemen.
(10-02-2023, 06:51 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2023, 06:16 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly. This is the same team results we saw early from last year with a few minor differences. 2 - 2 squads after four weeks of football. The offense is turning it over less and the defense has played better. We're just seeing a lack of overall execution and spotty coaching decisions that resulted in either leaving points off the board or putting the team in a position to where the opponent scored on us.
Some sloppy stuff here and there in a few games. It's not all on Press. It's not all on the lineman. It's not all on the receivers. It's not all on Caldwell or Doug, etc. It's a collective effort to be 2 - 2 and it's really a soup of miscues, luck and good effort. That's why the team is 2 - 2. Coulda, woulda and shoulda in the two home losses between the tinhorns and Chiefs.
We're onto Buffalo now.
I think during the offseason, a lot of people, myself included, had selective memories about how great this offense was last year. I think we need to remember how the Titans strangled our offense the last game of the season, and how lucky we were to win that game. Otherwise, we would have been 8-9 last year and we would have not made the playoffs.
I think a lot of people thought the addition of Ridley would have an immediate positive effect. But I think it's taking some time to adjust to having him out there. The guy hasn't played a regular season game in a long time. It could take 6 or 7 games to get him really integrated into things with some positive effect.
The other thing to mention is that we are missing some players on offense. Yesterday, besides missing Zay Jones and Jamaal Agnew, we were down several offensive linemen.
This is absolutely correct, we were much better but not elite. That idea that we just automatically got better over the offseason was speculation at best.
Just dropping this here to illustrate (again) what is going on with Trevor, pressure allowed, and why he doesn't always transcend the bad protection.
4th and 1 - and this shows the moment he decides to take off and run while he has Kirk (see star icon) just beginning to separate and move to the pylon.
If he anticipates this .1 seconds before running he might put the ball in a catchable place. But look at the open lane he sees to run through - and look at Calais Campbell about to tee off on him. Campbell is also coming from the direction he'd need to throw which is why he doesn't square up in that direction.
The problem with the run is that Scherff didn't continue his block and that running lane disappeared just as TL took off for it.
We were
"this close" to a TD or first down from the scramble or a TD pass to Kirk.
Better line play fixes it.
Expecting TL to rise above these moments is fine for you guys who are doing so, but I think it is unfair to expect him to transcend every single one of them. Bear in mind - even if he's a micro-second quicker deciding to throw to Kirk - he still probably gets clobbered by 93 and that is happening way too much.
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He looked toward Kirk initially then turned to check Tim Jones
Tim sets down and turns back for the ball just shy of the goal line while Trevor looks like he's expecting him to continue toward the back corner (arrow)
Could have been a miscommunication here.
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