(01-23-2024, 02:10 PM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: [ -> ]Crazy fact I just learned:
Press Taylor is currently the second longest tenured offensive coordinator in the NFL by 3 days.
With the Titans hire, all OCs have been replaced since beginning of 2022
(01-23-2024, 02:10 PM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: [ -> ]Crazy fact I just learned:
Press Taylor is currently the second longest tenured offensive coordinator in the NFL by 3 days.
Lol really? That's kinda crazy.
(01-21-2024, 09:48 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (01-19-2024, 11:17 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]What you will see from reporters close to team is them being cryptic with stuff like this. You can't openly leak info because it could out your source and also get you restricted if the right people are mad.
This has happened in the past where the local reporters and radio hosts will drop a hint but not go into any details. Then a national person will pick it up and that enables them to talk about it without burning bridges with the team.
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I find that equally hard to believe.
Inner monologue of random 1010xl reporter: “I’m not supposed to report this so maybe I’ll just drop a few hints on the radio about it. The team will never know and my source will never get outed, but I’ll still be able to inform hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions of people who listen to this radio station or stream it online.”
Yeah I don’t think that’s how it works.
OK, so now we have a game of Clue. My guess is the Butler in the study with a pen knife.
Realistically, it most likely is spirited discussion about the overall off season plan. What approach to target, sign and draft. This is what got out of hand in SF and resulted in Michigan winning a Natty.....
(01-23-2024, 10:39 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2024, 09:48 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]I find that equally hard to believe.
Inner monologue of random 1010xl reporter: “I’m not supposed to report this so maybe I’ll just drop a few hints on the radio about it. The team will never know and my source will never get outed, but I’ll still be able to inform hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions of people who listen to this radio station or stream it online.”
Yeah I don’t think that’s how it works.
OK, so now we have a game of Clue. My guess is the Butler in the study with a pen knife.
Realistically, it most likely is spirited discussion about the overall off season plan. What approach to target, sign and draft. This is what got out of hand in SF and resulted in Michigan winning a Natty.....
I think the issue in SF was that both Baalke and Harbaugh are just weird dudes. Like, sociopathically weird dudes. That deal about Pederson steering Trent during camp with a "Smile to the fans and wave, Trent" really shows the difference between the two men IMO.
I think that some of our offense problems are Press=Doug. He runs Dougs playbook, maybe Doug is better at gametime decisions but it is still his plays. How drastic of a change would firing Press be?
(01-25-2024, 04:54 AM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]I think that some of our offense problems are Press=Doug. He runs Dougs playbook, maybe Doug is better at gametime decisions but it is still his plays. How drastic of a change would firing Press be?
You'd still have to have an OC, even if only in title. It puts ALL of the midweek study, planning, and prep on Doug's shoulders unless he again lets the OC take the reins. It takes Doug out of the action during defensive plays if he has to pay more attention to coaching up the offensive guys or talking in-game adjustments. That part might be feasible if the DC is at the level of assistant HC, but I highly doubt he'd do that with a fresh hire.
It is, as they say, what it is.
(01-25-2024, 09:41 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2024, 04:54 AM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]I think that some of our offense problems are Press=Doug. He runs Dougs playbook, maybe Doug is better at gametime decisions but it is still his plays. How drastic of a change would firing Press be?
You'd still have to have an OC, even if only in title. It puts ALL of the midweek study, planning, and prep on Doug's shoulders unless he again lets the OC take the reins. It takes Doug out of the action during defensive plays if he has to pay more attention to coaching up the offensive guys or talking in-game adjustments. That part might be feasible if the DC is at the level of assistant HC, but I highly doubt he'd do that with a fresh hire.
It is, as they say, what it is.
Doug went a season in Philly without an OC, instead he had the lower assistants and a pair of consultants who helped with gameplanning. What's so stupid about all this "Press Sux" stuff is that in Philly the meddling onwer and GM wanted to force Doug to give up playcalling and he didn't want to, now here we are with fans clamoring for him to take up playcalling when he doesn't want to. It's laughable just how backwards everything has become here compared to his departure from the Iggs.
(01-25-2024, 09:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2024, 09:41 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]You'd still have to have an OC, even if only in title. It puts ALL of the midweek study, planning, and prep on Doug's shoulders unless he again lets the OC take the reins. It takes Doug out of the action during defensive plays if he has to pay more attention to coaching up the offensive guys or talking in-game adjustments. That part might be feasible if the DC is at the level of assistant HC, but I highly doubt he'd do that with a fresh hire.
It is, as they say, what it is.
Doug went a season in Philly without an OC, instead he had the lower assistants and a pair of consultants who helped with gameplanning. What's so stupid about all this "Press Sux" stuff is that in Philly the meddling onwer and GM wanted to force Doug to give up playcalling and he didn't want to, now here we are with fans clamoring for him to take up playcalling when he doesn't want to. It's laughable just how backwards everything has become here compared to his departure from the Iggs.
Yeah I don't care who is calling plays I just want a good offense man.
(01-25-2024, 10:02 AM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2024, 09:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Doug went a season in Philly without an OC, instead he had the lower assistants and a pair of consultants who helped with gameplanning. What's so stupid about all this "Press Sux" stuff is that in Philly the meddling onwer and GM wanted to force Doug to give up playcalling and he didn't want to, now here we are with fans clamoring for him to take up playcalling when he doesn't want to. It's laughable just how backwards everything has become here compared to his departure from the Iggs.
Yeah I don't care who is calling plays I just want a good offense man.
On the bright side, isn't it great to be [BLEEP] about a 13th ranked offense? DAMN IT WE SHOULD BE TOP 10!!!!!!!! ARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!
I think if we could just get some push on the line even for running we could have been much better just from that.
(01-25-2024, 10:13 AM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]I think if we could just get some push on the line even for running we could have been much better just from that.
Exactly right, the fix/lift for this year isn't huge; just fix the middle of the line. That's all, just fix those couple of spots.
I remember when the Jags were looking for a HC before they hired Pederson, someone asked Nate Tice what type of offense would be best for Trevor. He said the Arians offense.
I love Doug but is this offensive scheme really maximizing Trevors full potential?
(01-25-2024, 10:39 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]I remember when the Jags were looking for a HC before they hired Pederson, someone asked Nate Tice what type of offense would be best for Trevor. He said the Arians offense.
I love Doug but is this offensive scheme really maximizing Trevors full potential?
Yeah I wouldn't mind the texans/packers/niner offense either
Well I just want more aggression and attack the middle seam.
(01-25-2024, 11:26 AM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2024, 10:39 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]I remember when the Jags were looking for a HC before they hired Pederson, someone asked Nate Tice what type of offense would be best for Trevor. He said the Arians offense.
I love Doug but is this offensive scheme really maximizing Trevors full potential?
Yeah I wouldn't mind the texans/packers/niner offense either
Well I just want more aggression and attack the middle seam.
It doesn't matter what offense you run when your oline is as bad as ours was. No run game, interior oline getting destroyed etc.
(01-25-2024, 11:40 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2024, 11:26 AM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I wouldn't mind the texans/packers/niner offense either
Well I just want more aggression and attack the middle seam.
It doesn't matter what offense you run when your oline is as bad as ours was. No run game, interior oline getting destroyed etc.
exactly
Fix the line and watch run efficiency plus under center play action numbers rise and all the whining ends quickly IMO
(01-25-2024, 11:57 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2024, 11:40 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]It doesn't matter what offense you run when your oline is as bad as ours was. No run game, interior oline getting destroyed etc.
exactly
Fix the line and watch run efficiency plus under center play action numbers rise and all the whining ends quickly IMO
You're such an optimist!
(01-25-2024, 11:57 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2024, 11:40 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]It doesn't matter what offense you run when your oline is as bad as ours was. No run game, interior oline getting destroyed etc.
exactly
Fix the line and watch run efficiency plus under center play action numbers rise and all the whining ends quickly IMO
I don't disagree. The Oline is the biggest concern.
I really would just like to see a lot more vertical passing plays when the offensive line (hopefully) is fixed.
I'm just wondering if this offensive philosophy best utilizes Trevors strengths.
(01-25-2024, 12:18 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-25-2024, 11:57 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]exactly
Fix the line and watch run efficiency plus under center play action numbers rise and all the whining ends quickly IMO
I don't disagree. The Oline is the biggest concern.
I really would just like to see a lot more vertical passing plays when the offensive line (hopefully) is fixed.
I'm just wondering if this offensive philosophy best utilizes Trevors strengths.
Like I said here and other threads - our under center throws this year (most of which were play action) went for 13.3 yards per attempt. Lots of vertical passes in those attempts.
That is really good.
We just weren't able to do it enough because of the line and QB injuries.
If I see it - the staff does too.
It will ramp up.
The middle of the field talk is mostly overblown garbage narrative BTW
7 or 8 of Lawrence's passing charts show several completions and attempts there.
The factors keeping them lower in other games are multiple and include (but not limited to) Trevor loving to look toward the hero routes when the middle routes are secondary/shorter + defensive schemes and how Pederson game plans against them.
What tells me that the Scheme is good is that last year we ended up in the top 10, and this year, even with the worst Oline in the league we ended up in 13th. If the scheme was not playing for Trevor strengths there is no way that we ended up that high in offense rankings. What other offense in the league that don't have a QB that fit the Scheme is higher than us ?
The tacks just snagged our passing game coordinator to be their offensive coordinator up there. That's pretty interesting. Two years in a row now we've lost a passing game coordinator to a divisional rival for essentially a promotion.
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