(11-14-2023, 12:58 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (11-13-2023, 08:37 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Go back and watch that video again, everything he said was about what the players failed to execute. "It's not like they weren't prepared." That's the opening line that puts it all on the 11 on the field. You want it so bad but you're just willfully blind. You simply can't see what's happening on the field because you think the guy calling plays makes them not block or catch.
You are either ignoring or just overlooking the facts that the coaches are responsible for making the team successful.
I think everyone agrees that the players aren't executing. How many times have we seen these same players fail to execute the same plays? It's week 11 now and the coaches are the ones to blame for continuing to expect the players to be able to execute what they haven't been able to do in the 9 games.
If you keep shocking yourself because you keep sticking a fork in an outlet, you don't blame the outlet.
You can have the best play book in the world but if the players can't run it, it is meaningless. They have to call plays that this OL, WRs, RBs, and QB can be successful at. It's obvious and has been for weeks that this offense isn't working. So they need to do their job and rewrite the play book to be successful.
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Lol, Maddenism 101. Just call the right play and a weak Guard will control an All Pro Defensive Tackle to create a running lane. Just change the play and the 3 man rush won't beat 5 blockers. Just call the right play and the QB will have no pressure on a 2.75 second drop back. Just call the right play and the X can get 2 yards of separation 25 yards downfield in the 2.5 seconds before the QB gets hammered. That isn't how it works. How it has somewhat worked, the horizontal offense, can only work so long before everyone catches on, but of course you guys were complaining about that too. You know what might help? Put Stange and Farrell in to personally protect the QB while two guys run routes and ETN sits in the flat. It'll be those two against 6 defenders, but then you guys can complain about how unimaginative the offense is.
Baalke screwed this team by not getting us what almost everyone said we needed in the offseason. Now the bill has come due and San Francisco was sent to collect.
Just a little thought for those getting hung up on Taylor's play calls.
If Pederson were calling the plays this year (and we know he can intervene whenever he wants to) - but if he were calling them from the sideline - he would be calling plays from the same playsheet Press Taylor is calling from.
They designed the plays together.
Pederson makes the game plan with Taylor's input.
The same sheet would be in either guy's hands on game day with the same early script (or darn near), and the same intent of focus.
The only thing that would change is that Doug is probably better at keeping defenses on their heels in the way he mixes up his calls.
So - you have to ask yourself: Is that enough to make up for what is happening on the offensive line? Is that enough to save Trevor from a hurried internal clock after taking so many hits? Is that going to change individual matchups during the run blocking failures?
I'm sure it would help offensive production a bit.
I just don't think it would alter any of these 3 losses so far.
This offense is having the same problems it had last year, they are just exacerbated by even worse line play and the entire league having a ton of tape on it. The difference in the early season record has come largely from the defense.
(11-14-2023, 01:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Just a little thought for those getting hung up on Taylor's play calls.
If Pederson were calling the plays this year (and we know he can intervene whenever he wants to) - but if he were calling them from the sideline - he would be calling plays from the same playsheet Press Taylor is calling from.
They designed the plays together.
Pederson makes the game plan with Taylor's input.
The same sheet would be in either guy's hands on game day with the same early script (or darn near), and the same intent of focus.
The only thing that would change is that Doug is probably better at keeping defenses on their heels in the way he mixes up his calls.
So - you have to ask yourself: Is that enough to make up for what is happening on the offensive line? Is that enough to save Trevor from a hurried internal clock after taking so many hits? Is that going to change individual matchups during the run blocking failures?
I'm sure it would help offensive production a bit.
I just don't think it would alter any of these 3 losses so far.
This offense is having the same problems it had last year, they are just exacerbated by even worse line play and the entire league having a ton of tape on it. The difference in the early season record has come largely from the defense.
That's what I was saying earlier. Some guys just have a better overall feel and sense of how a game is going and it's probably to Pederson's advantage at this point to take over play calling duties again. He's been on record at some point, believe it was last year, where, he said if the offense was not moving well due to his play calling he would fork the duties over to Press or somebody else.
Maybe Doug knows when to call the perfect tendency breaker or pallet cleanser on offense. Something Press lacks in his experience.
Well, it's clearly been different this year Vs. last year. Think it's time for the master to take back over the steering wheel and let the student sit back in the passenger seat for awhile because we need to get this offense moving somehow with eight games left. Need to get them driving in the right direction. Would it alter the three losses? Probably not.
The first two losses happened back in September. It was primarily on execution. You had a number of crucial drops and fumbles that left plenty of points on the board with the Chiefs and then you had some really bad breakdowns on defense with the tinhorns and that crazy FB run for a TD on special team's that broke the camel's back in that one.
Outside of that? This offense has still been very, very ho-hum, even in their six wins. The 57% completion percentage on 3rd and short or 4th and short is down from last year. The redzone struggles are worse than last year's redzone struggles. The fact that the NFL is catching up to us with tape is even more evident in my opinion that Doug should take back over.
Goes back to looking ahead, anticipating the defensive alignments, blitzes and looks. What do we have to lose by giving Doug the reigns back a bit on offense? Other than more football games? What hurts more? Losing games and a chance at making the play-off's and letting your team, fans and legacy down? Or, hurting the ego, maybe, of a young offensive coordinator that's chasing his brother's success in Cincinatti?
(11-14-2023, 01:36 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2023, 01:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Just a little thought for those getting hung up on Taylor's play calls.
If Pederson were calling the plays this year (and we know he can intervene whenever he wants to) - but if he were calling them from the sideline - he would be calling plays from the same playsheet Press Taylor is calling from.
They designed the plays together.
Pederson makes the game plan with Taylor's input.
The same sheet would be in either guy's hands on game day with the same early script (or darn near), and the same intent of focus.
The only thing that would change is that Doug is probably better at keeping defenses on their heels in the way he mixes up his calls.
So - you have to ask yourself: Is that enough to make up for what is happening on the offensive line? Is that enough to save Trevor from a hurried internal clock after taking so many hits? Is that going to change individual matchups during the run blocking failures?
I'm sure it would help offensive production a bit.
I just don't think it would alter any of these 3 losses so far.
This offense is having the same problems it had last year, they are just exacerbated by even worse line play and the entire league having a ton of tape on it. The difference in the early season record has come largely from the defense.
That's what I was saying earlier. Some guys just have a better overall feel and sense of how a game is going and it's probably to Pederson's advantage at this point to take over play calling duties again. He's been on record at some point, believe it was last year, where, he said if the offense was not moving well due to his play calling he would fork the duties over to Press or somebody else.
Maybe Doug knows when to call the perfect tendency breaker or pallet cleanser on offense. Something Press lacks in his experience.
Well, it's clearly been different this year Vs. last year. Think it's time for the master to take back over the steering wheel and let the student sit back in the passenger seat for awhile because we need to get this offense moving somehow with eight games left. Need to get them driving in the right direction. Would it alter the three losses? Probably not.
The first two losses happened back in September. It was primarily on execution. You had a number of crucial drops and fumbles that left plenty of points on the board with the Chiefs and then you had some really bad breakdowns on defense with the tinhorns and that crazy FB run for a TD on special team's that broke the camel's back in that one.
Outside of that? This offense has still been very, very ho-hum, even in their six wins. The 57% completion percentage on 3rd and short or 4th and short is down from last year. The redzone struggles are worse than last year's redzone struggles. The fact that the NFL is catching up to us with tape is even more evident in my opinion that Doug should take back over.
Goes back to looking ahead, anticipating the defensive alignments, blitzes and looks. What do we have to lose by giving Doug the reigns back a bit on offense? Other than more football games? What hurts more? Losing games and a chance at making the play-off's and letting your team, fans and legacy down? Or, hurting the ego, maybe, of a young offensive coordinator that's chasing his brother's success in Cincinatti?
BUt there's the rub, coaching doesn't change the fact that we can't power run the ball and other teams know it. That's why red zone is down, that's why short yardage is an adventure in futility, because they know what we can't do and so sell out on what we can. Vic Ketchman used to say that about quarterbacks, the defense figures out what you can't do and that's the only thing they let you do. Changing the play call isn't fixing that because what you could change it to we simply cannot do with these guys. That's why we need the Smoke N Mirrors, becaus we are not capable of just playing physical football.
(11-14-2023, 01:49 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2023, 01:36 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]That's what I was saying earlier. Some guys just have a better overall feel and sense of how a game is going and it's probably to Pederson's advantage at this point to take over play calling duties again. He's been on record at some point, believe it was last year, where, he said if the offense was not moving well due to his play calling he would fork the duties over to Press or somebody else.
Maybe Doug knows when to call the perfect tendency breaker or pallet cleanser on offense. Something Press lacks in his experience.
Well, it's clearly been different this year Vs. last year. Think it's time for the master to take back over the steering wheel and let the student sit back in the passenger seat for awhile because we need to get this offense moving somehow with eight games left. Need to get them driving in the right direction. Would it alter the three losses? Probably not.
The first two losses happened back in September. It was primarily on execution. You had a number of crucial drops and fumbles that left plenty of points on the board with the Chiefs and then you had some really bad breakdowns on defense with the tinhorns and that crazy FB run for a TD on special team's that broke the camel's back in that one.
Outside of that? This offense has still been very, very ho-hum, even in their six wins. The 57% completion percentage on 3rd and short or 4th and short is down from last year. The redzone struggles are worse than last year's redzone struggles. The fact that the NFL is catching up to us with tape is even more evident in my opinion that Doug should take back over.
Goes back to looking ahead, anticipating the defensive alignments, blitzes and looks. What do we have to lose by giving Doug the reigns back a bit on offense? Other than more football games? What hurts more? Losing games and a chance at making the play-off's and letting your team, fans and legacy down? Or, hurting the ego, maybe, of a young offensive coordinator that's chasing his brother's success in Cincinatti?
BUt there's the rub, coaching doesn't change the fact that we can't power run the ball and other teams know it. That's why red zone is down, that's why short yardage is an adventure in futility, because they know what we can't do and so sell out on what we can. Vic Ketchman used to say that about quarterbacks, the defense figures out what you can't do and that's the only thing they let you do. Changing the play call isn't fixing that because what you could change it to we simply cannot do with these guys. That's why we need the Smoke N Mirrors, becaus we are not capable of just playing physical football.
I think you're wrong. Coaching CAN change and SHOULD change things about the team conceptually when and if the same concepts continue to fail. It's a mindset.
We can't power run the football? I agree. We sure as hell can't power run the football when it's starting from the shotgun formation with Etienne having five lineman in front of him and no lead blocker, a TE or H-Back pulling around off tackle or shooting back inside to push the interior.
We'll never know because the staff continues to call the same stupid [BLEEP] there that continues to fail. When was the last time this team actually lined-up on 3rd and short or 4th and short with Lawrence under center and with a split backfield or power formation with TE's stacked on either side?
And what smoke and mirrors are you referring to? The same smoke and mirrors that our opponents continue to routinely see right through and snuff out? Again, even with a 6 - 3 record. Let's not sit back and pretend like this offense has been the catalyst to this team's success.
Coaches can absolutely call plays, design plays, install plays and use formations to offset some of their weaknesses while still going back to some of their bread and butter [BLEEP] that they just have to have in their offense.
(11-14-2023, 01:59 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2023, 01:49 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]BUt there's the rub, coaching doesn't change the fact that we can't power run the ball and other teams know it. That's why red zone is down, that's why short yardage is an adventure in futility, because they know what we can't do and so sell out on what we can. Vic Ketchman used to say that about quarterbacks, the defense figures out what you can't do and that's the only thing they let you do. Changing the play call isn't fixing that because what you could change it to we simply cannot do with these guys. That's why we need the Smoke N Mirrors, becaus we are not capable of just playing physical football.
I think you're wrong. Coaching CAN change and SHOULD change things about the team conceptually when and if the same concepts continue to fail. It's a mindset.
We can't power run the football? I agree. We sure as hell can't power run the football when it's starting from the shotgun formation with Etienne having five lineman in front of him and no lead blocker, a TE or H-Back pulling around off tackle or shooting back inside to push the interior.
We'll never know because the staff continues to call the same stupid [BLEEP] there that continues to fail. When was the last time this team actually lined-up on 3rd and short or 4th and short with Lawrence under center and with a split backfield or power formation with TE's stacked on either side?
And what smoke and mirrors are you referring to? The same smoke and mirrors that our opponents continue to routinely see right through and snuff out? Again, even with a 6 - 3 record. Let's not sit back and pretend like this offense has been the catalyst to this team's success.
Coaches can absolutely call plays, design plays, install plays and use formations to offset some of their weaknesses while still going back to some of their bread and butter [BLEEP] that they just have to have in their offense.
You can think that all you want, in the NFL the better player wins and our linemen just aren't very good. Try and hide it all you want, eventually the NFL figures it out. Doug's offense doesn't use lead blockers because it's a pass first system. We've used the TEs that way a few times in short yardage, but even when we do they are still gadgety plays like the Full House they ran to ETN on 4th and short vs the Chargers in the playoffs to get in FG range. When they do use TEs on motions and cracks and the like they usually get blown up (see Strange vs the Chiefs). They just aren't built to bully, they are what they are. Again, you're suggesting that the coaches call plays that our team is even worse at than the plays they use now. Change for the sake of change is a failing strategy. This is a team that will win more games in the second half doing what they've been doing, but what they've been doing just won't be good enough to beat the top 4 or 5 teams in the League. That next step is about filling the weak positions with stronger, better players. I want them to win, you want them to win; I just know what I see and why it's a season-limiting problem.
(11-14-2023, 03:15 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2023, 01:59 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I think you're wrong. Coaching CAN change and SHOULD change things about the team conceptually when and if the same concepts continue to fail. It's a mindset.
We can't power run the football? I agree. We sure as hell can't power run the football when it's starting from the shotgun formation with Etienne having five lineman in front of him and no lead blocker, a TE or H-Back pulling around off tackle or shooting back inside to push the interior.
We'll never know because the staff continues to call the same stupid [BLEEP] there that continues to fail. When was the last time this team actually lined-up on 3rd and short or 4th and short with Lawrence under center and with a split backfield or power formation with TE's stacked on either side?
And what smoke and mirrors are you referring to? The same smoke and mirrors that our opponents continue to routinely see right through and snuff out? Again, even with a 6 - 3 record. Let's not sit back and pretend like this offense has been the catalyst to this team's success.
Coaches can absolutely call plays, design plays, install plays and use formations to offset some of their weaknesses while still going back to some of their bread and butter [BLEEP] that they just have to have in their offense.
You can think that all you want, in the NFL the better player wins and our linemen just aren't very good. Try and hide it all you want, eventually the NFL figures it out. Doug's offense doesn't use lead blockers because it's a pass first system. We've used the TEs that way a few times in short yardage, but even when we do they are still gadgety plays like the Full House they ran to ETN on 4th and short vs the Chargers in the playoffs to get in FG range. When they do use TEs on motions and cracks and the like they usually get blown up (see Strange vs the Chiefs). They just aren't built to bully, they are what they are. Again, you're suggesting that the coaches call plays that our team is even worse at than the plays they use now. Change for the sake of change is a failing strategy. This is a team that will win more games in the second half doing what they've been doing, but what they've been doing just won't be good enough to beat the top 4 or 5 teams in the League. That next step is about filling the weak positions with stronger, better players. I want them to win, you want them to win; I just know what I see and why it's a season-limiting problem.
This team played like dog [BLEEP] and were figured out in the first half play-off win over the Chargers. It took them one drive leading into half time and a 15 minute meeting in the locker room to figure it the [BLEEP] out in the second half to ultimately claw their way back into a victory.
This team can adjust when it needs to do. We're on the same wave length in terms of them not being talented enough to go toe-to-toe with the best of the best in the NFL. That much is clear. It was the primary concern I had when they got handled in Kansas City at the line of scrimmage throughout the majority of that loss.
Change for the sake of change is a failing strategy only when you're currently utilizing a process that is effective and is working at a good enough level to where people can [BLEEP] to the tune of "If it ain't broke? Don't fix it".
That's the catch though. This offense is broken. We can chalk it up to the lineman. Again, we get that. However, they need to keep installing or working on SOMETHING until they get it figured out, and, if that means using more personnel to block or create a more plausible misdirection then they need to do it.
I am suggesting the coaching staff call plays and do things conceptually to help get the [BLEEP] ball rolling. What they're doing is not good enough. They need to create time, they need to create quick plays that have a sense of natural progression that's easier to read and easier on Lawrence. They need to flow the pocket to it's stronger field of play and then maybe work their way back into some of the normal things they try to do.
This offense lacks explosiveness outside of Etienne occasionally bouncing one outside or Lawrence throwing a strike. They don't have to run a four wide go route on every play out of the shotgun to get the football downfield. We know they don't have the time for that in the pocket. But, what they can do is run three guys from left to right going short - mid - deep and flow Lawrence over to that side.
Do that a couple of times a game. At least get the defense off your front for awhile. Do some more screens. Maybe away from Harrison's side since he's busted two big opportunities this year. Go to the left side where Robinson is a mauler and Little can get out with a kick block.
There's ways to work around weaknesses.
(11-14-2023, 01:59 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2023, 01:49 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]BUt there's the rub, coaching doesn't change the fact that we can't power run the ball and other teams know it. That's why red zone is down, that's why short yardage is an adventure in futility, because they know what we can't do and so sell out on what we can. Vic Ketchman used to say that about quarterbacks, the defense figures out what you can't do and that's the only thing they let you do. Changing the play call isn't fixing that because what you could change it to we simply cannot do with these guys. That's why we need the Smoke N Mirrors, becaus we are not capable of just playing physical football.
I think you're wrong. Coaching CAN change and SHOULD change things about the team conceptually when and if the same concepts continue to fail. It's a mindset.
We can't power run the football? I agree. We sure as hell can't power run the football when it's starting from the shotgun formation with Etienne having five lineman in front of him and no lead blocker, a TE or H-Back pulling around off tackle or shooting back inside to push the interior.
We'll never know because the staff continues to call the same stupid [BLEEP] there that continues to fail. When was the last time this team actually lined-up on 3rd and short or 4th and short with Lawrence under center and with a split backfield or power formation with TE's stacked on either side?
And what smoke and mirrors are you referring to? The same smoke and mirrors that our opponents continue to routinely see right through and snuff out? Again, even with a 6 - 3 record. Let's not sit back and pretend like this offense has been the catalyst to this team's success.
Coaches can absolutely call plays, design plays, install plays and use formations to offset some of their weaknesses while still going back to some of their bread and butter [BLEEP] that they just have to have in their offense.
there's probably a reason why we aren't lining Trevor under center, running power on short yardage, etc.
We don't normally line up in that formation, and doing so tips our hand; our guys aren't capable of pushing the line forward 2 yards, or creating a gap for an RB to squeeze through; Trevor hasn't run a sneak in I dunno how long, and I can't help but think the coaches have more confidence in a quick sideline route on 3rd and a few feet than they do in the punch up the guy play.
If we start reliably opening holes or moving the D line, maybe we start seeing them try that power stuff. Nothing I've seen from this team makes me think we can convert on those plays, though. Especially if it's against a stacked box looking for the same call.
Noticed Pederson in today's presser was asked about the lower average of downfield routes and he said they need to be more conscious of that but that when facing a good pass rush it is tricky
Which is what we've all been saying , but clearly he's aware.
Football is such a unique sport. Play calling is so significant.
(11-15-2023, 09:04 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2023, 01:59 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I think you're wrong. Coaching CAN change and SHOULD change things about the team conceptually when and if the same concepts continue to fail. It's a mindset.
We can't power run the football? I agree. We sure as hell can't power run the football when it's starting from the shotgun formation with Etienne having five lineman in front of him and no lead blocker, a TE or H-Back pulling around off tackle or shooting back inside to push the interior.
We'll never know because the staff continues to call the same stupid [BLEEP] there that continues to fail. When was the last time this team actually lined-up on 3rd and short or 4th and short with Lawrence under center and with a split backfield or power formation with TE's stacked on either side?
And what smoke and mirrors are you referring to? The same smoke and mirrors that our opponents continue to routinely see right through and snuff out? Again, even with a 6 - 3 record. Let's not sit back and pretend like this offense has been the catalyst to this team's success.
Coaches can absolutely call plays, design plays, install plays and use formations to offset some of their weaknesses while still going back to some of their bread and butter [BLEEP] that they just have to have in their offense.
there's probably a reason why we aren't lining Trevor under center, running power on short yardage, etc.
We don't normally line up in that formation, and doing so tips our hand; our guys aren't capable of pushing the line forward 2 yards, or creating a gap for an RB to squeeze through; Trevor hasn't run a sneak in I dunno how long, and I can't help but think the coaches have more confidence in a quick sideline route on 3rd and a few feet than they do in the punch up the guy play.
If we start reliably opening holes or moving the D line, maybe we start seeing them try that power stuff. Nothing I've seen from this team makes me think we can convert on those plays, though. Especially if it's against a stacked box looking for the same call.
Trevor ran a few sneaks earlier this year. They actually got under center a lot in the 2nd half, for the Jags, but it ended when they couldn't score and stopped running.
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We've been within the twenty to score over twenty-one times this year and only came away with points seven of those times.
Out of those seven times, only a few were touchdowns and when they were touchdowns? Almost half were Etienne handoffs.
Really just that pass to Zay in the Buffalo game was one of the only red zone passing TDs this year we have had.
The rest have came from outside of the red zone with YAC throws. That to me is a lack of good pass plays dialed up for him.
It seems to me like they have no good pass plays for the red zone in our playbook.
Something needs to change.
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(11-15-2023, 10:15 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]We've been within the twenty to score over twenty-one times this year and only came away with points seven of those times.
Out of those seven times, only a few were touchdowns and when they were touchdowns? Almost half were Etienne handoffs.
Really just that pass to Zay in the Buffalo game was one of the only red zone passing TDs this year we have had.
The rest have came from outside of the red zone with YAC throws. That to me is a lack of good pass plays dialed up for him.
It seems to me like they have no good pass plays for the red zone in our playbook.
Something needs to change.
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If players would stop fumbling the ball inside the redzone that'd certainly help to put more points on the board.
This entire problem is offensive line. Even when you listen to what Doug said were "self-inflicted" problems, it all starts with the o-line. Strip sack, false start, blocking the wrong guy. The missed signal was on the WR and the delay of game was on Trevor, so what... 2 of the problems listed were caused by other factors. Our o-line is as bad as I've seen this year. How many of you guys complaining have played QB? There is a place where the QB becomes so concerned about avoiding the sack that they miss opportunities. Unless you have a guy like Big Ben who just doesn't care, fixing the o-line is the surest way to fix everything else. We all saw it. We all asked for it. Imo, it's on our GM and scouts to secure it for Trevor. It has seemingly not been a priority for far too long.
We just look like a team that hasn't practiced in weeks.
I challenge anyone who thinks the playcalls aren’t a problem to go back to week 1 and watch Lawrence get in the pistol with Etienne behind him. Lawrence took 3 snaps in a row and handed the ball to Etienne 3 times in a row for 0 yards on all 3 plays.
It’s the first time as a Jaguars fan from day 1, that I’ve ever seen the same play ran 3 times in a row to the same side with the same result all 3 times.
(11-15-2023, 09:55 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (11-15-2023, 09:04 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]there's probably a reason why we aren't lining Trevor under center, running power on short yardage, etc.
We don't normally line up in that formation, and doing so tips our hand; our guys aren't capable of pushing the line forward 2 yards, or creating a gap for an RB to squeeze through; Trevor hasn't run a sneak in I dunno how long, and I can't help but think the coaches have more confidence in a quick sideline route on 3rd and a few feet than they do in the punch up the guy play.
If we start reliably opening holes or moving the D line, maybe we start seeing them try that power stuff. Nothing I've seen from this team makes me think we can convert on those plays, though. Especially if it's against a stacked box looking for the same call.
Trevor ran a few sneaks earlier this year. They actually got under center a lot in the 2nd half, for the Jags, but it ended when they couldn't score and stopped running.
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Wonder if that was an attempt to help Fortner. Probably easier to transition from under-center snap to blocking than it is to sending shotgun snap and then getting up for a block. I ain't a line coach, though, so what do I know?
(11-16-2023, 01:06 AM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]We just look like a team that hasn't practiced in weeks.
Part of that is probably due to the fact that we keep reshuffling the Oline week in and week out either due to injury, ineptitude or ingested supplements.
There's something to be said for consistency. We gotta get a lineup that is functional, we're not gonna reach much higher than that presently. Once we do, stick with it and run. Quit shuffling, give the guys some stability.
(11-16-2023, 07:52 AM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]I challenge anyone who thinks the playcalls aren’t a problem to go back to week 1 and watch Lawrence get in the pistol with Etienne behind him. Lawrence took 3 snaps in a row and handed the ball to Etienne 3 times in a row for 0 yards on all 3 plays.
It’s the first time as a Jaguars fan from day 1, that I’ve ever seen the same play ran 3 times in a row to the same side with the same result all 3 times.
so it's a problem that we aren't recycling the play that failed repeatedly?
If anything, you gave a crystal clear example of playcalling learning from mistakes. It would be 1000% worse if we were still trying to make that play work in week 9.
(11-16-2023, 07:52 AM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]I challenge anyone who thinks the playcalls aren’t a problem to go back to week 1 and watch Lawrence get in the pistol with Etienne behind him. Lawrence took 3 snaps in a row and handed the ball to Etienne 3 times in a row for 0 yards on all 3 plays.
It’s the first time as a Jaguars fan from day 1, that I’ve ever seen the same play ran 3 times in a row to the same side with the same result all 3 times.
For starters, game 1 is all but preseason now
Second, I’ve seen that happen with this team before, most notably when we faced four goal to go situations on the 1 and ran it with Toby freaking Gerhart