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01-19-2024, 12:57 PM
(01-19-2024, 12:41 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]Are we sure the "buzz" wasn't just Dilla's tweet?
Exactly.
Just the use of that word diminishes credibility and suggests rumor-mill fodder to me
01-19-2024, 02:35 PM
(01-19-2024, 12:57 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ](01-19-2024, 12:41 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]Are we sure the "buzz" wasn't just Dilla's tweet?
Exactly.
Just the use of that word diminishes credibility and suggests rumor-mill fodder to me
That's kinda my interpretation of his choice of words as well.
"I didn't hear this directly, but I've seen mention of on social media or elsewhere." = buzz
Though, 1010 was running with this like it had legs at lunch time today. However, Mia said "we've been hinting at this for weeks and now Breer picks it up nationally." Why would you hint at something unless you couldn't verify the veracity of it? My guess is they couldn't confirm it and now it's turned into an echo chamber of an unconfirmed "report" which is helping to self-amplify it. I guess we'll see, but I wouldn't expect anything else to come of it this off season.
01-19-2024, 02:54 PM
(01-19-2024, 09:48 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I've read the bolded part alot around here and I guess now is a good time to tell the story; I'm going to quote some stuff that was happening behind the scenes:(01-19-2024, 09:19 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]When you say, "This is beginning to pick up more traction now," what do you mean by "this?"
That there's been a leak of growing concerns in the front office linked to Baalke not happy with Pederson's decisions to turn over play calling duties offensively to Press Taylor. Between Dilla's tweet, Albert Breer's report last night or the night prior, a Jaguarwire's or Big Cat Country article highlighting this, there's something to it.
We all know of Pederson's willingness to lose his job for his coaching staff. Especially on offense with Press Taylor. Laurie ran him out of town for this willingness, because, much like the concerns here, there's a tendency to pin the blame on the offenses' failures on the new guy calling the plays.
I don't have a dog in this fight really. Well, I say that, but, if I had to list the primary issues on offense that I saw last year? It would be:
1. Offensive line strength
2. Lack of running game
3. Dropped passes on offense
4. Turnovers
5. 4th down gambling decisions
6. Some play call choices
The fact that I can pinpoint 5 issues before I even begin to complain or get nit picky about the play calling, especially for a first time play caller, it makes me think he's not the issue, nor is Lawrence. I think the issue is personnel and weaknesses and that's a combination of Baalke's decision making and scouting department along with Pederson and his staff signing off on some of these subtractions and additions to the offense personnel wise.
So, it'll be interesting to see if anything comes out of it. There was even another odd rumor going around last night, that, apparently, we're interviewing Keenan McCardell for the OC job. Which would mean Baalke may have won this fight or perceived issue. Not REALLY buying that completely, again, the source was Dilla via tweeting. So, we'll see.
https://twitter.com/E_Dilla/status/17481...I3SdA&s=19
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https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...BwBfQ&s=19
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Quote:Four weeks into the 2019 season, Doug Pederson sat down for his scheduled inquisition.
The Tuesday tribunals with team owner Jeffrey Lurie and general manager Howie Roseman were a weekly occurrence during Pederson’s five-year tenure as Eagles head coach. In the meetings, Lurie and Roseman questioned Pederson about all aspects of his game management the week prior. Fourth-down decision-making, play calling, personnel choices — everything was on the table.
Days earlier, the team overcame a 10-0 second-quarter deficit to beat Aaron Rodgers and the Packers 34-27 and even its record at 2-2. The offensive key to the win was a steady dose of the running game that took advantage of Green Bay’s defensive game plan.
Apparently, that wasn’t good enough. Lurie, who has long advocated the use of analytics, wanted to know why Pederson hadn’t called more passing plays. The interrogation was the same after another win that season — this time in Buffalo on a day with 23 mph winds.
“(Pederson) was ridiculed and criticized for every decision,” one source told The Athletic. “If you won by three, it wasn’t enough. If you lost on a last-second field goal, you’re the worst coach in history.”
Quote:Following the season, Lurie wanted Pederson to get rid of offensive coordinator Mike Groh and wide receivers coach Carson Walch. It wasn’t the first time Pederson found himself on the opposite end of a disagreement with his bosses over his assistant coaches.
After Pederson’s first year as head coach in 2016, he fought to keep then-offensive coordinator Frank Reich, pushing back against doubts from above. Pederson put his foot down again with Groh and Walch, saying he wanted both coaches to return.
That’s when Lurie reminded the coach who makes the final calls at the NovaCare Complex.
Pederson was given 24 hours to make the moves, according to multiple sources. If he didn’t, he’d be fired,
the next day the Eagles announced Groh and Walch had been let go.
Quote:Tension simmered behind the scenes among different factions of football operations. Over the ensuing few years, the animosity festered to the point that certain departments were separated inside the building.
During the 2017 season, Halaby’s(who runs the team’s four-person analytics department) and Pederson’s relationship soured to the point where Pederson berated Halaby within earshot of the rest of the office, according to sources. In the opinion of some members of the coaching staff, Halaby was not to be trusted.
Frustration mounted on the scouting side as well. Rather than being presented with reasons for where certain draft-eligible players were rated by Halaby’s department, the scouting staff would simply be given a list of players the analytics department liked. According to one source, a top personnel official was upset to find out Halaby was grading players on his own despite never having been trained in the scouting department’s. The blurriness of Halaby’s influence on the final decision-makers created rifts throughout the organization and contributed to the iciness between departments. One source described the analytics team as a “clandestine, Black Ops department that doesn’t answer to anybody except the owner,” even though Halaby officially reports to Roseman.
“The fact that Doug had the success he did with all the [BLEEP] going on in the building, sometimes I look at our Super Bowl rings, and I’m like, ‘Holy cow, I don’t know how we did it,'” one source said.
Quote:Over time, the Tuesday meetings wore on Pederson. Lurie has long considered the organization at the forefront of innovation, and the impression among Pederson’s supporters in the building was that Lurie’s weekly questions were largely based on postgame reports produced by the team’s analytics staff.
Sources say Pederson was beaten down by the constant second-guessing. “They treated him like a baby,” one said.
There is way more to this than what I put here, I will provide the link to the Full report, TLDR; is Pederson was also tired of everything happening ( as was Jeffrey Lurie) and they both saw on Press a easy way out.
https://archive.ph/OWPUq
This link is open for anyone to read
https://theathletic.com/2506187/2021/04/12/paranoia-mismanagement-and-office-politics-inside-the-eagles-downfall-under-jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman/
This is the original link( behind a paywall)
01-19-2024, 07:46 PM
(01-19-2024, 02:54 PM)Marcos25067 Wrote: [ -> ](01-19-2024, 09:48 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]That there's been a leak of growing concerns in the front office linked to Baalke not happy with Pederson's decisions to turn over play calling duties offensively to Press Taylor. Between Dilla's tweet, Albert Breer's report last night or the night prior, a Jaguarwire's or Big Cat Country article highlighting this, there's something to it.I've read the bolded part alot around here and I guess now is a good time to tell the story; I'm going to quote some stuff that was happening behind the scenes:
We all know of Pederson's willingness to lose his job for his coaching staff. Especially on offense with Press Taylor. Laurie ran him out of town for this willingness, because, much like the concerns here, there's a tendency to pin the blame on the offenses' failures on the new guy calling the plays.
I don't have a dog in this fight really. Well, I say that, but, if I had to list the primary issues on offense that I saw last year? It would be:
1. Offensive line strength
2. Lack of running game
3. Dropped passes on offense
4. Turnovers
5. 4th down gambling decisions
6. Some play call choices
The fact that I can pinpoint 5 issues before I even begin to complain or get nit picky about the play calling, especially for a first time play caller, it makes me think he's not the issue, nor is Lawrence. I think the issue is personnel and weaknesses and that's a combination of Baalke's decision making and scouting department along with Pederson and his staff signing off on some of these subtractions and additions to the offense personnel wise.
So, it'll be interesting to see if anything comes out of it. There was even another odd rumor going around last night, that, apparently, we're interviewing Keenan McCardell for the OC job. Which would mean Baalke may have won this fight or perceived issue. Not REALLY buying that completely, again, the source was Dilla via tweeting. So, we'll see.
https://twitter.com/E_Dilla/status/17481...I3SdA&s=19
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https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...BwBfQ&s=19
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Quote:Four weeks into the 2019 season, Doug Pederson sat down for his scheduled inquisition.
The Tuesday tribunals with team owner Jeffrey Lurie and general manager Howie Roseman were a weekly occurrence during Pederson’s five-year tenure as Eagles head coach. In the meetings, Lurie and Roseman questioned Pederson about all aspects of his game management the week prior. Fourth-down decision-making, play calling, personnel choices — everything was on the table.
Days earlier, the team overcame a 10-0 second-quarter deficit to beat Aaron Rodgers and the Packers 34-27 and even its record at 2-2. The offensive key to the win was a steady dose of the running game that took advantage of Green Bay’s defensive game plan.
Apparently, that wasn’t good enough. Lurie, who has long advocated the use of analytics, wanted to know why Pederson hadn’t called more passing plays. The interrogation was the same after another win that season — this time in Buffalo on a day with 23 mph winds.
“(Pederson) was ridiculed and criticized for every decision,” one source told The Athletic. “If you won by three, it wasn’t enough. If you lost on a last-second field goal, you’re the worst coach in history.”
Quote:Following the season, Lurie wanted Pederson to get rid of offensive coordinator Mike Groh and wide receivers coach Carson Walch. It wasn’t the first time Pederson found himself on the opposite end of a disagreement with his bosses over his assistant coaches.
After Pederson’s first year as head coach in 2016, he fought to keep then-offensive coordinator Frank Reich, pushing back against doubts from above. Pederson put his foot down again with Groh and Walch, saying he wanted both coaches to return.
That’s when Lurie reminded the coach who makes the final calls at the NovaCare Complex.
Pederson was given 24 hours to make the moves, according to multiple sources. If he didn’t, he’d be fired,
the next day the Eagles announced Groh and Walch had been let go.
Quote:Tension simmered behind the scenes among different factions of football operations. Over the ensuing few years, the animosity festered to the point that certain departments were separated inside the building.
During the 2017 season, Halaby’s(who runs the team’s four-person analytics department) and Pederson’s relationship soured to the point where Pederson berated Halaby within earshot of the rest of the office, according to sources. In the opinion of some members of the coaching staff, Halaby was not to be trusted.
Frustration mounted on the scouting side as well. Rather than being presented with reasons for where certain draft-eligible players were rated by Halaby’s department, the scouting staff would simply be given a list of players the analytics department liked. According to one source, a top personnel official was upset to find out Halaby was grading players on his own despite never having been trained in the scouting department’s. The blurriness of Halaby’s influence on the final decision-makers created rifts throughout the organization and contributed to the iciness between departments. One source described the analytics team as a “clandestine, Black Ops department that doesn’t answer to anybody except the owner,” even though Halaby officially reports to Roseman.
“The fact that Doug had the success he did with all the [BLEEP] going on in the building, sometimes I look at our Super Bowl rings, and I’m like, ‘Holy cow, I don’t know how we did it,'” one source said.
Quote:Over time, the Tuesday meetings wore on Pederson. Lurie has long considered the organization at the forefront of innovation, and the impression among Pederson’s supporters in the building was that Lurie’s weekly questions were largely based on postgame reports produced by the team’s analytics staff.
Sources say Pederson was beaten down by the constant second-guessing. “They treated him like a baby,” one said.
There is way more to this than what I put here, I will provide the link to the Full report, TLDR; is Pederson was also tired of everything happening ( as was Jeffrey Lurie) and they both saw on Press a easy way out.
https://archive.ph/OWPUq
This link is open for anyone to read
https://theathletic.com/2506187/2021/04/12/paranoia-mismanagement-and-office-politics-inside-the-eagles-downfall-under-jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman/
This is the original link( behind a paywall)
Pederson strikes me as a baby... and a billionaire would also see him as such.
01-19-2024, 07:58 PM
(01-19-2024, 02:54 PM)Marcos25067 Wrote: [ -> ](01-19-2024, 09:48 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]That there's been a leak of growing concerns in the front office linked to Baalke not happy with Pederson's decisions to turn over play calling duties offensively to Press Taylor. Between Dilla's tweet, Albert Breer's report last night or the night prior, a Jaguarwire's or Big Cat Country article highlighting this, there's something to it.I've read the bolded part alot around here and I guess now is a good time to tell the story; I'm going to quote some stuff that was happening behind the scenes:
We all know of Pederson's willingness to lose his job for his coaching staff. Especially on offense with Press Taylor. Laurie ran him out of town for this willingness, because, much like the concerns here, there's a tendency to pin the blame on the offenses' failures on the new guy calling the plays.
I don't have a dog in this fight really. Well, I say that, but, if I had to list the primary issues on offense that I saw last year? It would be:
1. Offensive line strength
2. Lack of running game
3. Dropped passes on offense
4. Turnovers
5. 4th down gambling decisions
6. Some play call choices
The fact that I can pinpoint 5 issues before I even begin to complain or get nit picky about the play calling, especially for a first time play caller, it makes me think he's not the issue, nor is Lawrence. I think the issue is personnel and weaknesses and that's a combination of Baalke's decision making and scouting department along with Pederson and his staff signing off on some of these subtractions and additions to the offense personnel wise.
So, it'll be interesting to see if anything comes out of it. There was even another odd rumor going around last night, that, apparently, we're interviewing Keenan McCardell for the OC job. Which would mean Baalke may have won this fight or perceived issue. Not REALLY buying that completely, again, the source was Dilla via tweeting. So, we'll see.
https://twitter.com/E_Dilla/status/17481...I3SdA&s=19
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https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...BwBfQ&s=19
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Quote:Four weeks into the 2019 season, Doug Pederson sat down for his scheduled inquisition.
The Tuesday tribunals with team owner Jeffrey Lurie and general manager Howie Roseman were a weekly occurrence during Pederson’s five-year tenure as Eagles head coach. In the meetings, Lurie and Roseman questioned Pederson about all aspects of his game management the week prior. Fourth-down decision-making, play calling, personnel choices — everything was on the table.
Days earlier, the team overcame a 10-0 second-quarter deficit to beat Aaron Rodgers and the Packers 34-27 and even its record at 2-2. The offensive key to the win was a steady dose of the running game that took advantage of Green Bay’s defensive game plan.
Apparently, that wasn’t good enough. Lurie, who has long advocated the use of analytics, wanted to know why Pederson hadn’t called more passing plays. The interrogation was the same after another win that season — this time in Buffalo on a day with 23 mph winds.
“(Pederson) was ridiculed and criticized for every decision,” one source told The Athletic. “If you won by three, it wasn’t enough. If you lost on a last-second field goal, you’re the worst coach in history.”
Quote:Following the season, Lurie wanted Pederson to get rid of offensive coordinator Mike Groh and wide receivers coach Carson Walch. It wasn’t the first time Pederson found himself on the opposite end of a disagreement with his bosses over his assistant coaches.
After Pederson’s first year as head coach in 2016, he fought to keep then-offensive coordinator Frank Reich, pushing back against doubts from above. Pederson put his foot down again with Groh and Walch, saying he wanted both coaches to return.
That’s when Lurie reminded the coach who makes the final calls at the NovaCare Complex.
Pederson was given 24 hours to make the moves, according to multiple sources. If he didn’t, he’d be fired,
the next day the Eagles announced Groh and Walch had been let go.
Quote:Tension simmered behind the scenes among different factions of football operations. Over the ensuing few years, the animosity festered to the point that certain departments were separated inside the building.
During the 2017 season, Halaby’s(who runs the team’s four-person analytics department) and Pederson’s relationship soured to the point where Pederson berated Halaby within earshot of the rest of the office, according to sources. In the opinion of some members of the coaching staff, Halaby was not to be trusted.
Frustration mounted on the scouting side as well. Rather than being presented with reasons for where certain draft-eligible players were rated by Halaby’s department, the scouting staff would simply be given a list of players the analytics department liked. According to one source, a top personnel official was upset to find out Halaby was grading players on his own despite never having been trained in the scouting department’s. The blurriness of Halaby’s influence on the final decision-makers created rifts throughout the organization and contributed to the iciness between departments. One source described the analytics team as a “clandestine, Black Ops department that doesn’t answer to anybody except the owner,” even though Halaby officially reports to Roseman.
“The fact that Doug had the success he did with all the [BLEEP] going on in the building, sometimes I look at our Super Bowl rings, and I’m like, ‘Holy cow, I don’t know how we did it,'” one source said.
Quote:Over time, the Tuesday meetings wore on Pederson. Lurie has long considered the organization at the forefront of innovation, and the impression among Pederson’s supporters in the building was that Lurie’s weekly questions were largely based on postgame reports produced by the team’s analytics staff.
Sources say Pederson was beaten down by the constant second-guessing. “They treated him like a baby,” one said.
There is way more to this than what I put here, I will provide the link to the Full report, TLDR; is Pederson was also tired of everything happening ( as was Jeffrey Lurie) and they both saw on Press a easy way out.
https://archive.ph/OWPUq
This link is open for anyone to read
https://theathletic.com/2506187/2021/04/12/paranoia-mismanagement-and-office-politics-inside-the-eagles-downfall-under-jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman/
This is the original link( behind a paywall)
I've been telling these people this for two weeks. They slopped up Lurie's propaganda and hate Press Taylor over a false tale
(01-19-2024, 07:46 PM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ](01-19-2024, 02:54 PM)Marcos25067 Wrote: [ -> ]I've read the bolded part alot around here and I guess now is a good time to tell the story; I'm going to quote some stuff that was happening behind the scenes:
There is way more to this than what I put here, I will provide the link to the Full report, TLDR; is Pederson was also tired of everything happening ( as was Jeffrey Lurie) and they both saw on Press a easy way out.
https://archive.ph/OWPUq
This link is open for anyone to read
https://theathletic.com/2506187/2021/04/12/paranoia-mismanagement-and-office-politics-inside-the-eagles-downfall-under-jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman/
This is the original link( behind a paywall)
Pederson strikes me as a baby... and a billionaire would also see him as such.
Wow, are you sure you have the right alt on for that statement?
01-19-2024, 11:17 PM
(01-19-2024, 02:35 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]What you will see from reporters close to team is them being cryptic with stuff like this. You can't openly leak info because it could out your source and also get you restricted if the right people are mad.(01-19-2024, 12:57 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly.
Just the use of that word diminishes credibility and suggests rumor-mill fodder to me
That's kinda my interpretation of his choice of words as well.
"I didn't hear this directly, but I've seen mention of on social media or elsewhere." = buzz
Though, 1010 was running with this like it had legs at lunch time today. However, Mia said "we've been hinting at this for weeks and now Breer picks it up nationally." Why would you hint at something unless you couldn't verify the veracity of it? My guess is they couldn't confirm it and now it's turned into an echo chamber of an unconfirmed "report" which is helping to self-amplify it. I guess we'll see, but I wouldn't expect anything else to come of it this off season.
This has happened in the past where the local reporters and radio hosts will drop a hint but not go into any details. Then a national person will pick it up and that enables them to talk about it without burning bridges with the team.
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01-20-2024, 10:31 AM
You can post all the news articles and blame players all you want, even the layman's eye could see and be flabbergasted by the same, old, repeated failure plays over and over game after game.
One person's job description is calling in plays.
The End.
One person's job description is calling in plays.
The End.
01-20-2024, 12:14 PM
(01-20-2024, 10:31 AM)H8tank Wrote: [ -> ]You can post all the news articles and blame players all you want, even the layman's eye could see and be flabbergasted by the same, old, repeated failure plays over and over game after game.
One person's job description is calling in plays.
The End.
And laymen are ignorant, so nothing special there in their observatons. Madden gone wild.
01-20-2024, 12:53 PM
Even a layman, meaning even the ignorant could see it. If you can't.... well.
01-20-2024, 01:52 PM
(01-20-2024, 12:53 PM)H8tank Wrote: [ -> ]Even a layman, meaning even the ignorant could see it. If you can't.... well.
What plays should Press Taylor call that don't require blocking?
01-20-2024, 02:00 PM
Three players who take up no more than 3 or 4 yards of lateral space completely gutted this offense. They were the failed linchpin on which almost every offensive play hinged. Fixing those three positions will ameliorate 91% of our offensive problems.
01-20-2024, 02:20 PM
(01-20-2024, 01:52 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ](01-20-2024, 12:53 PM)H8tank Wrote: [ -> ]Even a layman, meaning even the ignorant could see it. If you can't.... well.
What plays should Press Taylor call that don't require blocking?
'You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.'
01-20-2024, 02:30 PM
(01-20-2024, 02:20 PM)H8tank Wrote: [ -> ](01-20-2024, 01:52 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]What plays should Press Taylor call that don't require blocking?
'You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.'
So, if your army has slingshots and the enemy has rifles, how do you strategize around that?
01-20-2024, 02:56 PM
(01-20-2024, 02:30 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ](01-20-2024, 02:20 PM)H8tank Wrote: [ -> ]'You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.'
So, if your army has slingshots and the enemy has rifles, how do you strategize around that?
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
01-20-2024, 03:11 PM
01-20-2024, 03:49 PM
(01-20-2024, 02:56 PM)H8tank Wrote: [ -> ](01-20-2024, 02:30 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]So, if your army has slingshots and the enemy has rifles, how do you strategize around that?
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
That actually is not what insanity is.
But regardless of that, what plays can Press Taylor call that don't require blocking?
01-20-2024, 08:07 PM
(01-20-2024, 02:00 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Three players who take up no more than 3 or 4 yards of lateral space completely gutted this offense. They were the failed linchpin on which almost every offensive play hinged. Fixing those three positions will ameliorate 91% of our offensive problems.
was it the O-Line that cause so many delay of games?
Was it the O-Line that caused so may "we need to execute better" bull [BLEEP] statements week after week?
Was it the O-Line that resulted in us always running up to the line with less than 5 seconds on the Play clock?
Was it the O-Line that insisted on running the same predictable plays on 1st down?
Look, it's fun to blame the O-Line for everything.
But I've been lurking this hate filled forum for years. You all start first by blaming the O-Line....
Let's assume we even fix our O-Line. And our O-Line is the Philly O-Line. Guess what happens? We still collapse because we have trash coaching... I mean, do any of the predominant posters here ever go outside this bubble?
Reading this forum is like trying to decipher ancient Egyptian Hyroglyphics. Ya'll have to deal with out dated mods that are driving dead conversations. It's like trying to re learn swahili.
(01-20-2024, 03:11 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ](01-20-2024, 02:56 PM)H8tank Wrote: [ -> ]“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
Adages R Us.
Bro, it's not like we ended the season with 5 wins...
We were 8 and 3 and looking at a #1 seed at the end of November.
So I guess the O-Line just decided after November to just [BLEEP] it all....
The offensive coaches have no accountability for that. It was all on those lazy 8 win linemen that clearly just decided to [BLEEP] the bed.
01-20-2024, 09:14 PM
(01-20-2024, 03:49 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]You start by simplifying the blocking, stop zone blocking where you have to use your brain, and focus on forming a pocket. Just having them form a shield by linking arms would have been better than what they did at times.(01-20-2024, 02:56 PM)H8tank Wrote: [ -> ]“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
That actually is not what insanity is.
But regardless of that, what plays can Press Taylor call that don't require blocking?
There are plenty of things that could have been tweaked, the OC takes the blame though as they are responsible for the offense. So they can complain they don't have the correct players to run their system and they will get themselves fired. They can also adapt to the players they have.
Everyone shares blame for the failures but the OC is to try different things.
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01-20-2024, 09:52 PM
(01-20-2024, 08:07 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ](01-20-2024, 02:00 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Three players who take up no more than 3 or 4 yards of lateral space completely gutted this offense. They were the failed linchpin on which almost every offensive play hinged. Fixing those three positions will ameliorate 91% of our offensive problems.
was it the O-Line that cause so many delay of games?
Was it the O-Line that caused so may "we need to execute better" bull [BLEEP] statements week after week?
Was it the O-Line that resulted in us always running up to the line with less than 5 seconds on the Play clock?
Was it the O-Line that insisted on running the same predictable plays on 1st down?
Look, it's fun to blame the O-Line for everything.
But I've been lurking this hate filled forum for years. You all start first by blaming the O-Line....
Let's assume we even fix our O-Line. And our O-Line is the Philly O-Line. Guess what happens? We still collapse because we have trash coaching... I mean, do any of the predominant posters here ever go outside this bubble?
Reading this forum is like trying to decipher ancient Egyptian Hyroglyphics. Ya'll have to deal with out dated mods that are driving dead conversations. It's like trying to re learn swahili.
(01-20-2024, 03:11 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Adages R Us.
Bro, it's not like we ended the season with 5 wins...
We were 8 and 3 and looking at a #1 seed at the end of November.
So I guess the O-Line just decided after November to just [BLEEP] it all....
The offensive coaches have no accountability for that. It was all on those lazy 8 win linemen that clearly just decided to [BLEEP] the bed.
Just iigore the progression of injury on the line and cumulative hits on Lawrence as the reason why it happened. Your myopia continues apace, facts and stats be damned.