More than just the dumb goal line play calls and the silly aggressiveness.
I don't understand why they are still calling timing routes, horizontal mesh routes, and not having opportunities for traditional check downs when your QB is obviously having trouble with accuracy and throwing high. I know that other teams are game plannig for the the 5-15 yard area this team has focused on late last season and starting this year, but they have absolutely no change ups or other ideas. I get that Fortner and the IOL crimped the team as did WR injuries/inconsistency, but every team in the league faces those kinds of issues.
If just felt like offensive philosophy is not flexible or resilient enough for today's NFL defenses.
(01-07-2024, 05:16 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]More than just the dumb goal line play calls and the silly aggressiveness.
I don't understand why they are still calling timing routes, horizontal mesh routes, and not having opportunities for traditional check downs when your QB is obviously having trouble with accuracy and throwing high. I know that other teams are game plannig for the the 5-15 yard area this team has focused on late last season and starting this year, but they have absolutely no change ups or other ideas. I get that Fortner and the IOL crimped the team as did WR injuries/inconsistency, but every team in the league faces those kinds of issues.
If just felt like offensive philosophy is not flexible or resilient enough for today's NFL defenses.
I agree.
I'm not a fan of leaving 6 points on the board and also wasting a crucial 2nd half time out - which has been a continued trend in most of our games... Whatever metrics or analytics Doug and Press utilize need to be re-evaluated because they have haunted us all season with what some people call aggressive playcalls and I'd like to call situationally unaware playcalls.
And yeah, that might be Doug's MO - but the rigidity of his approach could very well lead to his unemployment in the future.
We have the mild manner version of Matt Nagy as our head coach.
At this point it's more like he lucked the hell out one time with the Eagles and last year and this year is what he's notorious for.
Frustratingly inconsistent squads with highly questionable decision making at times as a coaching staff.
This is the kid that you told to stop sticking the fork in an electrical outlet before he [BLEEP] around and finds out but he found out and decided to play with other heating and high risk elements for [BLEEP] and giggles.
He's a chaotic good character. The Bill Butcher of the NFL.
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We're an mediocre team with a mediocre offense.
Our coaching is mediocre, which based on the talent we have, is pretty pathetic.
If you watch the game with other normal human beings that watch other football games, they all question what the hell the coaches are doing...
That's all I'm going to say about it. If you live in a duval pride message board bubble, you might thing that the coaches are doing just fine.
But if you live in the real world, you can tell that this coaching staff absolutely destroyed this team's changes for being successful back at the end of September.
Next year will be more of the same if we run it all back with Taylor, Caldwell, and Pederson.
(01-07-2024, 06:39 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]We're an mediocre team with a mediocre offense.
Our coaching is mediocre, which based on the talent we have, is pretty pathetic.
If you watch the game with other normal human beings that watch other football games, they all question what the hell the coaches are doing...
That's all I'm going to say about it. If you live in a duval pride message board bubble, you might thing that the coaches are doing just fine.
But if you live in the real world, you can tell that this coaching staff absolutely destroyed this team's changes for being successful back at the end of September.
Next year will be more of the same if we run it all back with Taylor, Caldwell, and Pederson.
Nowhere near as mediocre as your assessment.
(01-07-2024, 06:41 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2024, 06:39 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]We're an mediocre team with a mediocre offense.
Our coaching is mediocre, which based on the talent we have, is pretty pathetic.
If you watch the game with other normal human beings that watch other football games, they all question what the hell the coaches are doing...
That's all I'm going to say about it. If you live in a duval pride message board bubble, you might thing that the coaches are doing just fine.
But if you live in the real world, you can tell that this coaching staff absolutely destroyed this team's changes for being successful back at the end of September.
Next year will be more of the same if we run it all back with Taylor, Caldwell, and Pederson.
Nowhere near as mediocre as your assessment.
Hey FLS remember when you said Henry wasn't gonna try cause of injury? lol me too.
19 carries, 153 yards and TD he really didn't care.
Playcalling cost us this game..
That 3&1 rollout at the goal line.
That sealed it.
(01-07-2024, 06:43 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2024, 06:41 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Nowhere near as mediocre as your assessment.
Hey FLS remember when you said Henry wasn't gonna try cause of injury? lol me too.
19 carries, 153 yards and TD he really didn't care.
Yep, I said the Jags had to not play down to the opponent. Clearly they did letting Henry have the easiest big day you'll likely ever see.
I'm watching actuall NFL offenses now.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a QB that was under center every now and then?
Wouldn't it be nice to have motion?
Wouldn't it be nice to make a defense guess what's coming?
Naw. It's cool.
We as Jaguars boot lickers enjoy every play starting with QB at shotgun with the RB next to him. Ohhh... Sometimes we mix it up by having the RB start as WR, and then we motion him so he winds up standing next to the QB. Just like it was for fun.
I also really enjoy watching the same out routes and flats over and over again.
That way, when we actually have that one explosive play for a TD we can all get excited!!!! But then we just go back to running the same old, same old. Because that's what we prefer. Just brain dead play calling. Boring routes. And eventually we'll wear down the the defense!!!
That get's us 9 wins a year. And that's just good enough for us. We shouldn't expect any better from our leaders. If they say we should continue to head-butt a brick wall, well then we should do it! And eventually we'll be successful. The wall can only take so many craniums right? Any year now... We'll really break through.
(01-07-2024, 06:46 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Playcalling cost us this game..
That 3&1 rollout at the goal line.
That sealed it.
While I disagree with the call, I see good qbs/wrs run those kind of plays with plenty of success all the time.
(01-07-2024, 06:51 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2024, 06:43 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Hey FLS remember when you said Henry wasn't gonna try cause of injury? lol me too.
19 carries, 153 yards and TD he really didn't care.
Yep, I said the Jags had to not play down to the opponent. Clearly they did letting Henry have the easiest big day you'll likely ever see.
Bro... all week. Don't let Henry do wat he'd did. Almost 8 yards a carry. That's not bad runbdefense. That's you don't deserve to be div champ bs.
(01-07-2024, 06:51 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]I'm watching actuall NFL offenses now.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a QB that was under center every now and then?
Wouldn't it be nice to have motion?
Wouldn't it be nice to make a defense guess what's coming?
Naw. It's cool.
We as Jaguars boot lickers enjoy every play starting with QB at shotgun with the RB next to him. Ohhh... Sometimes we mix it up by having the RB start as WR, and then we motion him so he winds up standing next to the QB. Just like it was for fun.
I also really enjoy watching the same out routes and flats over and over again.
That way, when we actually have that one explosive play for a TD we can all get excited!!!! But then we just go back to running the same old, same old. Because that's what we prefer. Just brain dead play calling. Boring routes. And eventually we'll wear down the the defense!!!
That get's us 9 wins a year. And that's just good enough for us. We shouldn't expect any better from our leaders. If they say we should continue to head-butt a brick wall, well then we should do it! And eventually we'll be successful. The wall can only take so many craniums right? Any year now... We'll really break through.
You see but don't understand. Lawrence under center just gets him stepped on when Fortner gets blown off the ball. You saw it for 17 games, how can you still be so thick that you don't get the most basic issue?
(01-07-2024, 06:51 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2024, 06:46 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Playcalling cost us this game..
That 3&1 rollout at the goal line.
That sealed it.
While I disagree with the call, I see good qbs/wrs run those kind of plays with plenty of success all the time.
You have 2 shots up the gut with either ETN or Tank..
No rollout necessary..
Some of this season's playcalling was just flat out too cute and they failed to execute in crucial moments.
(01-07-2024, 06:53 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2024, 06:51 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Yep, I said the Jags had to not play down to the opponent. Clearly they did letting Henry have the easiest big day you'll likely ever see.
Bro... all week. Don't let Henry do wat he'd did. Almost 8 yards a carry. That's not bad runbdefense. That's you don't deserve to be div champ bs.
Yep, the Jags are soft on both lines. That's why they get manhandled by physical teams. Been saying it since the draft that it was a problem.
(01-07-2024, 06:41 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2024, 06:39 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]We're an mediocre team with a mediocre offense.
Our coaching is mediocre, which based on the talent we have, is pretty pathetic.
If you watch the game with other normal human beings that watch other football games, they all question what the hell the coaches are doing...
That's all I'm going to say about it. If you live in a duval pride message board bubble, you might thing that the coaches are doing just fine.
But if you live in the real world, you can tell that this coaching staff absolutely destroyed this team's changes for being successful back at the end of September.
Next year will be more of the same if we run it all back with Taylor, Caldwell, and Pederson.
Nowhere near as mediocre as your assessment.
Or anywhere near as your mediocre boot licking. Come on, you can insult me better than that!! Remember when you were so antagonistic about how it wasn't the Press Taylor's fault?
Maybe you're low on blood sugar? Is your testosterone's lacking? Maybe you need to get your Rx refilled? But your hate just isn't hitting like it did back when I was right and you were ignoring reality.
ehhhh... I'm sure you'll be back to your oblivious self tomorrow, after a good nap and some Ensure.
I'll talk to you then.
(01-07-2024, 06:54 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2024, 06:51 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]While I disagree with the call, I see good qbs/wrs run those kind of plays with plenty of success all the time.
You have 2 shots up the gut with either ETN or Tank..
No rollout necessary..
Some of this season's playcalling was just flat out too cute and they failed to execute in crucial moments.
Don't get me wrong, as soon as one of our goofy WR reverses are called I get mad, I hate that cute BS.
However, our running game up the middle has been terrible all year.. I don't blame them for wanting to throw, I do however blame the QB/WRs ability to execute when the box is stacked.
(01-07-2024, 06:54 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2024, 06:51 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]While I disagree with the call, I see good qbs/wrs run those kind of plays with plenty of success all the time.
You have 2 shots up the gut with either ETN or Tank..
No rollout necessary..
Some of this season's playcalling was just flat out too cute and they failed to execute in crucial moments.
The fact that we never scored a TD in the 1st Quarter (Edit: during our 7 game slide)
The fact that we constantly just settle for FGs.
This offense was coached badly. I'm sorry. No amount of boot lickers can change my mind about how poorly this offense was coached.
(01-07-2024, 06:54 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2024, 06:51 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]While I disagree with the call, I see good qbs/wrs run those kind of plays with plenty of success all the time.
You have 2 shots up the gut with either ETN or Tank..
No rollout necessary..
Some of this season's playcalling was just flat out too cute and they failed to execute in crucial moments.
And when the first one loses 3 yards the complaint is that they ran it up the middle. No matter what the call it's the wrong one if it does t work, that's how these people legitimately think.
I think I can safely say that if you performed your job as well as some of these guys have this year, you would have been fired. We need to root out those who have been "stealing money" and send them packing. Coaches, administrators, and players.
(01-07-2024, 06:51 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2024, 06:46 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Playcalling cost us this game..
That 3&1 rollout at the goal line.
That sealed it.
While I disagree with the call, I see good qbs/wrs run those kind of plays with plenty of success all the time.
We do but have we seen our QB/WRs do that with success this season. I feel we haven't which is why it was a bad playcall. The big difference to me with playcalling this year is they kept trying to make players fit the scheme, where as last year I feel like they made the scheme fit the players.
(01-07-2024, 07:07 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]I think I speak for a lot of people out there in saying that if you performed your job as well as some of these guys have this year, you would have been fired. We need to root out those who have been "stealing money" and send them packing. Coaches, administrators, and players.
This 100% I don't care who it is as long as it gets fixed.