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Quote:No.  But if one has the time and resources ($), getting a masters at NDSU is; especially the MS degree that he was pursuing.  

 

Let's face it, the average SAT there is 1439, the average ACT is 22, and the average GPA is 2.75.  They're not actually pulling out top scholars and it's not like the dude was taking top flight physics & engineering courses.

 

So then he is dumb?  I didn't realize physics and engineering were necessities to coach in the NFL.

 

"Bradley played college football at North Dakota State University from 1984 to 1988, where he was a <a class="" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_safety' title="Free safety">free safety</a> and <a class="" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punter_(American_football)' title="Punter (American football)">punter</a>. In 1988, he helped the Bison win the NCAA Division II Football Championship. He also was a four-time academic all-North Central Conference selection."

Quote:Just re-watched the defensive series of first 3 quarters.  There were a number of things going on that freed up the middle, but it was largely poor coverage by the linebackers. (as you suggested)

  I only saw Poz bite hard on the run fake once, but while he'd cover his guy he also allowed the catch fairly uncontested most times. 

Interestingly - Telvin is sneaky at watching the QB's eyes, but it got him into trouble a few times as he'd break towards the "look-off" and be caught unable to cover ground towards the throw. 

 

One big play to Walker that sort-of looked like it was on Poz was actually sort-of scheme-related as Sergio was lined up over the TE and blitzed releasing him totally uncovered or for a big gain.

 

It's looks like the one below that make me think "scheme" is also part of the problem.

 Telvin, Poz and the SS  are cheating forward at the snap despite a 4 receiver set - and Armbrister is up near the line. I feel like that's not respecting the middle properly.  This one ended up an incompletion over the middle due to a dropped pass by Wright. (It was not a 3rd down BTW.)

 

 

Do you have pre-snap and post snap? Looking at the alignment, are they perhaps disguising blitz? I think that's Sergio(?) near the LOS.

Quote:Do you have pre-snap and post snap? Looking at the alignment, are they perhaps disguising blitz? I think that's Sergio(?) near the LOS.

Did that on desktop... On mobile now.

I'll try later.

Quote:Welcome to the club. 

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Yours

Umm... Bortles threw for 5 tds. Broke the record for franchise tds and has 4 more games to go. Could get to 30 tds as soon as Sunday. Robinson went over 1k for the season. With 4 games left. He also broke the franchise record for receiving tds. The future of this team is white hot.


Regarding the coaching:


From today's article from Vito:


Tripp said being cut by the Dolphins was a “blessing in disguise’’ because he likes playing for the Jaguars.


“The coaches here and Paul have helped me learn a lot about football, a lot more than I have in the past,’’ he said.


“The coaches make it very simple, very understanding for you so you can go out and play fast and do your job.’’


“They’re going to coach you hard and they’re going to hold you accountable,’’ he said.


“The high energy, it’s special. It’s not like this everywhere else. It allows you to be the best player you can be. You see the guys rallying around the coaches. We’re keeping it tight and continue to press forward.’’


...


Compare that to the article about Demario Murray goin to the owner to complain because he is unhappy with chip Kelly's offense.


Here's another thing.


I want yall to think about this.


I think we can all agree that David Caldwell is superior judge of talent.


That being said, he must recognize the inferior level of players on the defensive side of the ball. We do. He must.


Therefore, he will not scapegoat Gus. He knows what the real problem is.

Quote:That being said, he must recognize the inferior level of players on the defensive side of the ball. We do. He must.


Therefore, he will not scapegoat Gus. He knows what the real problem is.

 

The offense got both better players and better coaches. It's not just that the players are better, otherwise Dead Fish would still be here. The defensive staff needs a shake up too, starting with the Head Coach.

Logic...I like it.  Sometimes hard to find in these boards.

I don't know what's right or wrong anymore. 

Quote:So then he is dumb?  I didn't realize physics and engineering were necessities to coach in the NFL.

 

"Bradley played college football at North Dakota State University from 1984 to 1988, where he was a free safety and punter. In 1988, he helped the Bison win the NCAA Division II Football Championship. He also was a four-time academic all-North Central Conference selection."

 

We hired a punter to be our head coach.  All is clear now.

Quote:Umm... Bortles threw for 5 tds. Broke the record for franchise tds and has 4 more games to go. Could get to 30 tds as soon as Sunday. Robinson went over 1k for the season. With 4 games left. He also broke the franchise record for receiving tds. The future of this team is white hot.


Regarding the coaching:


From today's article from Vito:


Tripp said being cut by the Dolphins was a “blessing in disguise’’ because he likes playing for the Jaguars.


“The coaches here and Paul have helped me learn a lot about football, a lot more than I have in the past,’’ he said.


“The coaches make it very simple, very understanding for you so you can go out and play fast and do your job.’’


“They’re going to coach you hard and they’re going to hold you accountable,’’ he said.


“The high energy, it’s special. It’s not like this everywhere else. It allows you to be the best player you can be. You see the guys rallying around the coaches. We’re keeping it tight and continue to press forward.’’


...


Compare that to the article about Demario Murray goin to the owner to complain because he is unhappy with chip Kelly's offense.


Here's another thing.


I want yall to think about this.


I think we can all agree that David Caldwell is superior judge of talent.


That being said, he must recognize the inferior level of players on the defensive side of the ball. We do. He must.


Therefore, he will not scapegoat Gus. He knows what the real problem is.

Good post. I think the main issue with Bradley at this point is just bad decisions. Bad timeouts, bad challenges, Gerhart 4 times straight up the middle...


He can get better. The defense definitely needs more talent, but I don't think babich is good. I'd actually rather see Gus call the defense and let olson/marrone have control of the offense.

Quote:Good post. I think the main issue with Bradley at this point is just bad decisions. Bad timeouts, bad challenges, Gerhart 4 times straight up the middle...


He can get better. The defense definitely needs more talent, but I don't think babich is good. I'd actually rather see Gus call the defense and let olson/marrone have control of the offense.

 

I'd rather Gus keep his "gameday" hands, for want of a better term, off the Defense. I am not a fan of the scheme right now as I don't like the predominance of Outside Leverage on just about every Pass Catcher, so I wouldn't mind upgrading Babich. Maybe promote Wash to DC or just flat out bring in some new blood with new ideas. The Defense needs a talent upgrade but I also feel like they need a new perspective. Now, that might just be the fan tunnel vision speaking since I watch a lot of them, but I would really like some new ideas on the Defense.

Quote:Good post. I think the main issue with Bradley at this point is just bad decisions. Bad timeouts, bad challenges, Gerhart 4 times straight up the middle...


He can get better. The defense definitely needs more talent, but I don't think babich is good. I'd actually rather see Gus call the defense and let olson/marrone have control of the offense.

 

Eh its a double edged sword. I think one of the things that Gus struggles with is game-day decision making stuff, like you mentioned. Clock management, timeouts, challenges (though supposedly they have someone who reviews and gives Gus a yay/nay. In which case they need to fire that guy).. 

 

The problem is, while Gus may improve the defensive playcalling (which badly needs improvement), doing so will take away further from what he needs to do as a coach...manage the team during game day.

 

I rather we get someone to replace Babich and allow Gus to continue to grow into his role as a HC.

 

It's almost...kind of a forgotten or ignored thing. The roster (esp the offense) has gotten a pass for being young. DC got a pass for basically throwing two years down the drain as a 1st time GM. But Gus is also a first time HC, yet very few are willing to give him the time that they have no problem affording to the roster or the guy who built the roster.

Quote:Eh its a double edged sword. I think one of the things that Gus struggles with is game-day decision making stuff, like you mentioned. Clock management, timeouts, challenges (though supposedly they have someone who reviews and gives Gus a yay/nay. In which case they need to fire that guy).. 

 

<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">I think Gus has gotten better with some of those decisions. I remember us getting robbed on a challenge in the last few games, and don’t remember any terrible decisions recently. On the one we got robbed on, it was good even just to get us some time to try to regroup on D and get a rest. And I thought he did a good job on the timeouts in the last game. Not perfect by any means, but not fire him kind of bad. 


 

 

The problem is, while Gus may improve the defensive playcalling (which badly needs improvement), doing so will take away further from what he needs to do as a coach...manage the team during game day.

I rather we get someone to replace Babich and allow Gus to continue to grow into his role as a HC.

 

<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">Agreed. I could see him bringing in new blood at DC like he did on the offensive side, but he needs to stay above the defensive play-calling.


 

 

It's almost...kind of a forgotten or ignored thing. The roster (esp the offense) has gotten a pass for being young. DC got a pass for basically throwing two years down the drain as a 1st time GM. But Gus is also a first time HC, yet very few are willing to give him the time that they have no problem affording to the roster or the guy who built the roster.

 

<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">And Gus gets a great deal of blame for defensive struggles, but doesn’t seem to get credit for offensive success. While Vic Ketchman and his shtick could get old, I agree that to a large extent it is players not plays, or more accurately players then plays. Olsen helped, but we needed the players and their development as well. The same is true defensively. I believe that with a bit more depth on the offensive line, we will be good for a top ten on offense for years to come. I think that with one more off-season we can be decent on defense, and in three years, can be top ten there as well. And top ten might be conservative on both sides. One thing Gus has done well is keep the players that we have buying in, and making necessary changes as needed. Replacing Fisch was big, his message is believed, and with a few more stars on defense, we will be fine. He deserves at least one more year. 


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<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">One final thing. Think of the young guys we have that look to be very good to great. Bortles, A-Rob, Hurns, Thomas, Yeldon, Linder, and maybe next year we can add Cann and/or Lee, heck, maybe Greene. On defense you have Smith, Marks. Maybe next year Colvin and Cyp will look better with pass rush, and maybe even a few more OK guys like House or Sample with take a step. Odrick isn't bad, and Skuta is decent. But clearly the focus has been on offense, and with a year or two focusing on defense, why shouldn't we expect 
similar<span style="font-size:10.5pt;"> gains? By the end of next year I think we will be in a better place to evaluate Gus, and we don't gain much by replacing him before then. I am tired of rebuilding bad situations. We have what looks to be a good one growing, let's give it one more year.</span>

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Quote:Eh its a double edged sword. I think one of the things that Gus struggles with is game-day decision making stuff, like you mentioned. Clock management, timeouts, challenges (though supposedly they have someone who reviews and gives Gus a yay/nay. In which case they need to fire that guy)..


The problem is, while Gus may improve the defensive playcalling (which badly needs improvement), doing so will take away further from what he needs to do as a coach...manage the team during game day.


I rather we get someone to replace Babich and allow Gus to continue to grow into his role as a HC.


It's almost...kind of a forgotten or ignored thing. The roster (esp the offense) has gotten a pass for being young. DC got a pass for basically throwing two years down the drain as a 1st time GM. But Gus is also a first time HC, yet very few are willing to give him the time that they have no problem affording to the roster or the guy who built the roster.

Either way but I was thinking marrone handles the game day decision making stuff and Gus handles the defense and we have everyone on the payroll already.


A new d coordinator would be totally welcome though.

Quote:But Bradley was supposed to be this defensive guru. The defense has stunk since he's been here. That zone defense design is crap. Recievers were wide open all day yesterday.

This zone defense has been around long before Gus...JDR was famous for the 10 yard cushion "bend don't break" (all the way down the field until they score) crap...

Quote:So, you're saying we start 3rd and lower depth chart players, practice squad players, the talent drop off is a lot. Score wont even be close. We wont even be in the game

uh, no; all I said was 'precisely'.

Shad Khan is cool, I like him. Silly me thinking this thread was about him.

 

Hey!!! I'm going to start another fire Gus thread, herp, derp. and disguise it, herp, yeah that's what I'll do.

Quote:I'm not a Gus defender, but I think this statement is unfair.  His first two years, we couldn't expect much and I feel like every fan I spoke with agreed with that, so those were not "*absolutely zero excuses"* years.  Those first two years were overflowing with excuses. 

 

This year was the first one where we expected the Jags were supposed to turn the corner (though personally I expected 6-10), so if anything next year would be the second zero excuses year.

I didn't say anything about the first 2 being zero excuse years. Anybody with a little bit of sense knows this team was complete garbage when they took over and they completely tore the team apart for a rebuild. I'm not too concerned about what they did those first two years.

 

Before this season started, I figured a 6-10 record while not being completely blown out in 1/2 of the games, would keep Gus' job. After the way this season played out and how we were handed such an easy schedule, full of injured teams and back up QBs. 6 wins should have been very easy to achieve.

 

I like Gus, but this team just cannot get out of it's own way. It's something different every week it seems, but we almost never fail to screw it up somehow. There's only so much blame to go around before there's only 1 thing left to point at. Coaching, as we all know and we all hear about after a loss. I know it isn't all Gus and it's unfair to pile all of the blame on him, but guys have come and gone from this roster, yet the same stupid mistakes seem to keep happening.

 

They preach patience and say Gus is safe for another year. Obviously they aren't going to throw him under the bus, so we'll have to wait until the end of the season to see if they really mean it. Personally, I believe they do. We can see blatant signs of this team improving and this team is not void of talent like a lot of people might think.

 

Last year people wanted Fisch gone because it was clear he was in over his head at the NFL level. Boom, Fisch fired and in comes Olson. Our Offense actually looks like a real Offense now (most of the time anyways). This season its the Defense and Babich's head everybody wants. If they do indeed tend to keep Gus, I think Gus will make the decision to either go after a new DC in the off season, or take over the DC himself.

 

Personally, I'd like to see him take full control of the Defense himself, since he's suppose to be a Defensive guru or something like that. But at the same time, can he be a HC and run the D at the same time? We've seen some of his blunders while just trying to manage the game as the HC.

 

I agree with you saying that this current season should have been the no excuses year, seeing as it's year 3. Some of the things that costed us games this year, he absolutely had no control over though. Myers missing multiple game winning kicks against the colts and this past week against the tacks instantly come to mind. Nobody expected Wiz to try and play long snapper and try to snap the ball 4 rows into the crowd.

 

My whole point with saying that next year would be his official zero excuses year, because it would be exactly that. It's not going to matter next year if it's him screwing up, or the players. Every coach gets to a certain point where you better win, no matter what, or else. If Gus gets another year, which again, I think they'll stay true to him for one more year. This team better really be pushing for the Division title and playoffs. And not in the running because the Division leader only has 4-5 wins again like this season.

Great win today.


 

Nice to see some seldom seen players step up, and awesome 2nd half adjustments.


 

 

Gus needs one more win in these final three games and he's safe.

Quote:Great win today.


 

Nice to see some seldom seen players step up, and awesome 2nd half adjustments.


 

 

Gus needs one more win in these final three games and he's safe.

 

I don't think it should be on number of wins he gets this late in the game.  It should be more about how players develop and how the product on the field looks.

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Nice to see some seldom seen players step up

 

It's things like that, that make me slightly skeptical that it isn't just a total failure on the other team....but I'll take it, I'll tip my hat to Bradley for how his team responded after that dreadful first half. 

Quote:I don't think it should be on number of wins he gets this late in the game.  It should be more about how players develop and how the product on the field looks.

 

 

I feel like they have done this much considering they've at least been in virtually every game (the Patriots game got away from them, but the Pats were unstoppable early) and we are seeing younger players develop this season. Getting one more win is just the final step to reach a minimum acceptable number, and it's nothing new... We've been saying six wins since the Preseason. Simply put, if we end on a three-game losing streak, even if the games are close, it would be tough to say their arrow is truly pointed up.