Quote:I thought they could be 7-9 with a good year. Once the season started and the schedule started falling apart I had hopes that they could be over .500.
Having watched them look bad over and over, week in and out for 10 games now I'm convinced that the coach must go but that the next guy won't have a lot of work to do to make them respectable.
I was also someone who thought we could win 8 games. And after the season began and I saw the state of affairs in our division, 8 games was an attainable goal for a even moderately capable head coach.
Quote:wait a tick.....
was this loss really on Gus?
Is it really Bradley's fault that Clem and Branch collectively suck really bad?
On defense, the lack off a pass rush, and STUPID offsides penalties really hurt us.
And on offense, well...
Bortles has to shoulder this one. And I'm a big pro-Bortles guy. But twice throwing from beyond the LOS.... smh, can't do that dude.
And the INTs right before half gifting the opponents points....
All-in-all, however, this season is going about how I expected it. And while a win (surely possible) would have been nice...
I think it's nicer to let all the AFCS division title/playoffs go on that back burner.... (that is off)
we're not there. We're good in spots. Good in spurts, love what I see between the 20's (mostly)
I don't know what changes will take place... but next year is gonna a good year for us. Bortles, Yeldon, the Allens....
couple spots on D are shining stars too, just surrounded by too much inept talent.
I would be OK with drafting 6 D-linemen and a FS this offseason.
Ok if branch and Clemons suck so bad, where are Davis and Smith?
I have 3 issues with Gus.
1) I do not believe for a second he is a good judge of talent, especially on the defensive side of the ball
2)'I do not believe he actually gets the best out of what players he has
And 3) he is not able to change tactically to prevent what the other team is doing
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<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,248,250);">Gus says Clemons and Branch played solid on Sunday when asked about their total of 3 penalties and one tackle by <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/HaysCarlyon'>@HaysCarlyon</a>. <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/oh?src=hash'>#oh</a>
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<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,248,250);">What?!
Quote:He's learning? Wow. Most people are not calibrated to that fine tune level of minutia to be able to recognize the amount of "learning" Gus Bradley has done over the last 3 years.
this team is getting better in spite of the Head Coach, not because of the things he does. I'm glad you're able to find the tiny speckles of learning and positive coaching adjustments that Gus had made.
I, for one, cannot see it. But then again, I don't have the visual capabilities of an electron microscope as it appear you do. Kudos to you!
you can't see anything good in Gus because all you look for is a reason to complain about him...I don't think you have made a post in your last 100 posts that isn't finding something to [BLEEP] about against Gus. One can't find anything positive when all you look for is negative... The players are behind him and that means a lot when your team has been losing for nearly a decade, even if you don't want to believe it
Quote:I was also someone who thought we could win 8 games. And after the season began and I saw the state of affairs in our division, 8 games was an attainable goal for a even moderately capable head coach.
8 wins was a lot to hope for...I said 5-6 wins and next year 7-9...offenses with 2nd/3rd year players don't win many games and the defense is pretty young too...time and experience is what will make this team as a whole better
If they feel Gus is not getting the most out of this team, then they'll move on and this may ultimately be what the problem is...... What I fear though is we get a new coach, new offense and the same results because really, the problem is the team just needs more experience on offense and more play makers on defense and then UH OH we need another new coach. Round and round we go..... Then you know what we are then????
The Browns.
This whole "He's 11 of 32" crap is just that... crap. What part of our roster was completely gutted led you to think we would be competitive these last two years as we put together a new team? As far as I'm concerned, Gus gets a pass. I can see the improvement from last year to this one and can also see that we're headed in the right direction. Rome wasn't built in a day... Give it time.
And this is what im talking about with Gus :
Gus says Clemons and Branch played solid on Sunday when asked about their total of 3 penalties and one tackle by @HaysCarlyon. #oh
Solid, really Gus. The dude is an idiot.
Quote:Seriously?
Who do they have? McLellan? I know they were trading away lots of pieces earlier in the year.
Seriously.
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Bunch of whiners in this thread, Gus deserves 10 years
Quote:And this is what im talking about with Gus :
Gus says Clemons and Branch played solid on Sunday when asked about their total of 3 penalties and one tackle by @HaysCarlyon. #oh
Solid, really Gus. The dude is an idiot.
Well, no they didn't. But that comment is how Gus always handles questions from the press. It's only very annoying, because you want him to blast the players. He won't and it doesn't make him an idiot, it's just how he handles the pressers.
Bradley lacks the brains to be an NFL HC.
Quote:Well, no they didn't. But that comment is how Gus always handles questions from the press. It's only very annoying, because you want him to blast the players. He won't and it doesn't make him an idiot, it's just how he handles the pressers.
No, he just really believes they played solid.
Quote:Seriously.
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Yea. Thats my point. They are playing solid defense with less pieces.
Is there personnel better than ours? I highly doubt they have a Telvin Smith or a Poz or a Colvin or a House.
Quote:No, he just really believes they played solid.
Use your brain for a change. What would throwing one of your players under the bus in a press conference accomplish.
Quote:Use your brain for a change. What would throwing one of your players under the bus in a press conference accomplish.
He's called out House and Bortles at times. Branch and Clemons are untouchable.
Not much will change until the D gets a pass rush and the O gets a running game.
You can only cover in the NFL for so long. Give a good QB time and he will pick you apart.
And every offense needs balance. It's great we have a functional pass offense now, but you can't win consistently throwing 50 times a game unless you're Tom Brady playing dink and dunk.
Quote:This whole "He's 11 of 32" crap is just that... crap. What part of our roster was completely gutted led you to think we would be competitive these last two years as we put together a new team? As far as I'm concerned, Gus gets a pass. I can see the improvement from last year to this one and can also see that we're headed in the right direction. Rome wasn't built in a day... Give it time.
This team this year has shown improvement. However I think that's a product of the young talent Dave has put together. The coaching and opportunities to improve have proven to be a lot to be desired. The offense lacks creativity and there has not been any improvement in the redzone. As for a defensive game plan it's a joke. They put the secondary in failing situation s on 3rd down. How many times have you seen the secondary play off then give up a 3rd and long. This team is not coached well. I can go on and on. But people like your self will continue to look the other way. Gus has this team playing preseason style football and a lot of fans think it's just magically going to change from one year to the next.
Quote:No, he just really believes they played solid.
They stunk, he can't really believe that
Quote:They stunk, he can't really believe that
That's what our hc is trying to sell us. Sad thing is some people eat it up.