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Quote:How 'bout that Mularkey. Gets his lousy team to beat the Saints..in Nawlins. I know, one game...but is it temporary that teams that have recently did some coaching changes have played better? Fins, Colts...just gave Denver their first loss, Titans looked like a new team yesterday. The players like Gus. I like his enthusiasm. But man, his record would have him canned in most teams. The question is...will 4 wins this year get him fired? Thats a pretty dismal record considering the team should have improved along with a weak schedule?
I am fairly confident Doug Marrone would have this team (4-4). Marrone did way more with less in Buffalo. They had no offense in Buffalo and he still went (9-7).


Del Rio is doing a good job in Oakland as well. They are actually progressing. Del Rio has improved the offense and defense there. Gus has made our defense worse.
pleeeease fire gus he is sooooooooo bad

Quote:pleeeease fire gus he is sooooooooo bad


Agreed. Its time. I think with a good coach this team can maximize there level of play.
This is Scott Skiles after his win last night against the Lakers.  Cant imagine how he would of been if we lost.  I wish Gus could be more like this.  Skiles gets more pissed off on a bad win than Gus ever has after a loss

 

https://youtu.be/np7nYo3_wnQ

I guess I'll add my two cents to this 93 page behemoth...


Coaching changes on young teams are always a bit risky. The last thing we need is someone who wants to come in, blow everything up and start building a new team in their image. The Jaguars are undeniably heading in the right direction, and as long as we keep showing improvement it's tempting to just leave things as they are.


That being said...


If you objectively analyse Gus's performance as head coach its hard to reach anything but a negative grade, even if you decide (with good reason) to overlook his overwhelmingly negative win-loss ratio because, frankly, no coach in history could come through a total tear-down like we did with a winning record.


As far as the x's and o's and game management go, even Gus supporters will have been frustrated at times. The list is long and has been repeated ten billion times on here, but its fair to say there have been some baffling personnel decisions, poor game management with timeouts and challenges, and a reoccurring theme of being unable to adjust in games. However, I think these things are always overplayed and over analysed when the spotlight is on a coach. Pretty much every team in the NFL will have questionable moments that the fans get annoyed with every week. Just think of the end of the last Superbowl... If Gus was responsible for something like that then it would be painted on here as further evidence of his total and utter ineptness, yet nobody really questions Pete Carrol's coaching ability.


Perhaps more damning is the team mentality aspect. It might seem like I'm contradicting myself a bit here, but first I want to give Gus some credit. The job he took on was pretty daunting. He was facing at least two guaranteed losing seasons while we rebuilt. I think, and some will argue with this, that Gus has actually done a good job throughout this time. We needed a positive, energetic, optimistic and enthusiastic atmosphere to carry the players through that period, and to create an environment where the players are in a position to focus on improving. I thing Gus was successful with that, and its credit to him as a coach and a man that the players still seem to have so much respect for him. Most coaches with a record like that would lose the respect of the players. Gus hasn't.


However... Now that we are emerging from the rebuild with an impressive core of young players expectations have rightly changed. We have talent. We want victories. It can be argued that Gus's friendly and supportive approach is no longer the right vibe for this team. Up to this point the priority has been on commitment, effort and improvement, and mistakes have been excused as growing pains. Now we need to switch to a culture where we demand results, and failure is not accepted. Look at the Patriots... You perform or you're out.


The question is whether Gus can switch from being the 'everybody's best friend' coach to the hard taskmaster that people are afraid to cross... Personally, I don't get the feeling that he will be able to do that.


So where does that leave us? Obviously the next move is an important one, and for that reason I believe we wait until the end of the season before we do anything. Gus has 8 games left to prove he can get results with this team. If, and I acknowledge this is unlikely, he has a winning record over the second half of the season then he will probably deserve another year. Anything less and I think he should be out, and replaced with someone who will be committed to continuing to build around the core of young players we have. That person will need to come in and immediately establish a culture that puts the priority on winning. Considering the young talent we have at key areas, and the cap situation and owner, it should be a very appealing position.

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He's hit a wall. He can't get this team any higher. There's a clear lack of talent but how many losses will it take to move on?


5-11 is probable. Not to mention playing in the AFC South we are a doormat.
Can't. The culture will be ruined.
Fire Gus Bradley...

 

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Brother, its been time for Gus to go for a long time now.
I wonder who voted no, need public polls lulz

Quote:He's hit a wall. He can't get this team any higher. There's a clear lack of talent but how many losses will it take to move on?


5-11 is probable. Not to mention playing in the AFC South we are a doormat.
 

LMAO...hit a wall?  That implies he was making progress
Quote:Can't. The culture will be ruined.
Love that losing culture
Quote:Can't. The culture will be ruined.
 

This is actually the only arguement that can be made.

 


Keeping Gus after this year means that the front office believes in the direction Gus is taking the defense and the offense.

 

It's clear we are not winners under this Regime.  But if we keep Gus, it means that the Owner and the GM think that this current direction will get us to the playoffs.

 

After this loss, it's clear that talent alone will not win us games.
Let's have a Royal Rumble with Gus, Babich, Blake, Olson, etc. and whoever is the last man standing gets to stay. The rest get fired.

Quote:[BAD WORD REMOVED]...hit a wall?  That implies he was making progress
 

No progress has been made.  We won 2 game in a row against to sorry sack teams.  That's not progress.

 

The fact that we look lost in the red zone means we aren't practicing things that matter.  
Quote:Let's have a Royal Rumble with Gus, Babich, Blake, Olson, etc. and whoever is the last man standing gets to stay. The rest get fired.
 

That's actually an awesome idea.
It was cool seeing the defense stand there like statues as Rivers called audible after audible. Why is nothing disguised? Why are we playing soft zone when they're inside our 10 and 7 yards off the receivers? Scared of getting beat for a 40 yarder when it's first and goal from the 7?
Quote:Let's have a Royal Rumble with Gus, Babich, Blake, Olson, etc. and whoever is the last man standing gets to stay. The rest get fired.
 

Negative:

 

We need something more like this:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCXbib9MahE 
Fire Gus
Keeping Gus just ensures another losing season...unless we play backup qb's for all 16 games next season, we might go 8-8.