Quote:Someone needs to tell Hays Carlyon that nobody gives a damn about his "top 20 free agent rankings". This fat lard would be more useful giving us his top 20 sandwich rankings
Top 20 sandwich rankings. You may be on to something there.
Hays Carlyon. Football expert.
Quote:The truth that we are at a disadvantage when it comes to attracting top talent. Players want to go to a premier city and not a hick town like Jax.
Maybe you should root for the giants.
Quote:How often are playoff teams 'made' by free Agency?
Aqib Talib, Demarcus Ware, Peyton Manning, Ward, Sanders
5 KEY FA additions to the Broncos during their 4 year playoff/SB runs.
Quote:@HaysCarlyon My free agent Top 20: Giants have signed 4, Raiders 3, Texans 2, #Jaguars have 1. Which team had the most cap space again?
Dude loses all credibility if he is including Brock Osweiler in his top 20 free agents.
Matt freakin Flynn anyone?
Why do the same people cry every year about FA when we don't land the mega fish? Would I like to have landed Vernon? Yes, but not at that price. He's not worth that much. And I think we did a great job so far with what we have. I wanted Gipson from the get-go, check. Jackson will have a huge impact on defense, so great get; check. Ivory is the heavy hitter RB we need to have with Yeldon running point; check. We still have the draft. Be happy people. Geeze. It's not like we traded away our best players for nothing. We got some great players to help make this defense much better. Let's get a good Guard or Center and get ol' Jack and we'll be nice on defense.
So much whining...........
GO JAGS!!
Quote:Aqib Talib, Demarcus Ware, Peyton Manning, Ward, Sanders
5 KEY FA additions to the Broncos during their 4 year playoff/SB runs.
How are they looking long term now?
Quote:How are they looking long term now?
They were also a totally different team than we are.
They were in SB or bust mode. Peyton was aging and they knew their window was about to close.
Quote:How are they looking long term now?
They won the Super Bowl...what's the main goal of playing in the NFL?
Quote:How are they looking long term now?
4 Playoffs, 2 SB's and 1 SB victory...
I'd say the plan worked. Doesn't matter if they have to start over. At some point, every team does.
Packers never dabble in FA.... they haven't exactly strung together a dynasty.
Hays Carlyon was a hack writing for the St. Augustine Record and is still a hack after his graduation to the T-U.
Quote:4 Playoffs, 2 SB's and 1 SB victory...
I'd say the plan worked. Doesn't matter if they have to start over. At some point, every team does.
Packers never dabble in FA.... they haven't exactly strung together a dynasty.
For the Packers:
2015- NFC Championship Game
2014- Playoffs
2013- Playoffs
2012- Playoffs
2011- Superbowl Victory
2010- Playoffs
Comparable to the Broncos, and in a position to compete again for years to come.
Is it that hard to envision at least mild disappointment in the Jaguars not getting a pass rusher?
Quote:And where do you live? New York? Miami? Once again ya bash Jax. You do know the Giants play in Jersey Right? Ever been there?
I have and its trash. Compared to Jax. Ever lived in Miami? I have been there. And its trash as well.
Tebow seen what Jersey was like. Vernon will see the mess next. Giants fans have no heart. The papers have no heart. The city unless ya a superstar ya a bum.
For what it's worth, I live in NY. I hate NYC. I don't hate other big cities. I love philly, and I like Jacksonville.
It's different for everyone. Vernon was used to Florida life and wanted to try something new. Good for him, I hope he likes it. He saved us a lot of money. As much of a nice addition he would have been, that contract was ludicrous.
Quote:@HaysCarlyon Not getting Vernon wouldn't be a disaster had #Jaguars landed Janoris Jenkins. Needed to get at least two dynamic defenders. No excuses.
Gipson should count. Janoris Jenkins contract was too much, even for Overpaying in free agency standards, just like Vernon's was.
Caldwell has been tremendous at getting high profile free agents and also being smart with money.
Gipson meant more to Jacksonville than Jenkins would have anyway.
Quote:Is it that hard to envision at least mild disappointment in the Jaguars not getting a pass rusher?
Mild disappointment is a completely normal feeling! A pass rusher would have been fantastic, and gone a long ways to towards suring up our defense. But it didn't happen. Dave chose his targets, and assigned a fiscal cap that he would not surpass. Even throwing everything at Vernon, he choose NYC. This whole "we suck and are a flaming dumpster fire" is not an appropriate response to day 1 of the new league year.
Quote:Gipson should count. Janoris Jenkins contract was too much, even for Overpaying in free agency standards, just like Vernon's was.
Caldwell has been tremendous at getting high profile free agents and also being smart with money.
Gipson meant more to Jacksonville than Jenkins would have anyway.
We need a Gipson more than a Jenkins. Aaron Colvin is basically our version of Jenkins. That playmaker type of corner that can line up inside and out.
Quote:Exactly. We are a joke. Just leverage. Why go lose in podunk jacksonville when you can be a star under the bright lights in NYC?
yo why u keep askin why, bud?
Quote:For the Packers:
2015- NFC Championship Game
2014- Playoffs
2013- Playoffs
2012- Playoffs
2011- Superbowl Victory
2010- Playoffs
Comparable to the Broncos, and in a position to compete again for years to come.
Sure....
The Broncos have yet to replace some pieces lost... but that D will still be stellar. Bring in Kap at QB, and they are contenders again.
My point was that there are plenty of good uses for free agency, and steering clear doesn't guarantee any more or less than buying in big on FA.
It's how the GM works it all, including drafts, that makes a team.
At this point, I'd take 4 really good years, including a SB victory, and then having to start over again.
Would be so worth it after the last 8 seasons.