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Quote:In 2011 and 2012 he split carries with Felix Jones and still produced great numbers. Saying "one career year" doesn't tell the whole story. 2023 -14 were the only years he was really the clear centerpiece back.

I don't get what the argument here is. I am not saying he isn't good. I am saying that at 10 million per year, he is way too much risk, especially if it precludes us from drafting a stud running back if one is staring at us come our pick.


He has suffered through lots of nagging injuries. He was behind a dominant offensive line. He has only had one truly elite year. Compare that to the other top paid running backs who have had multiple elite years. You have to not want to see the risks to not see them.

Quote:What do you want? [BAD WORD REMOVED] is the language filter.

I want to see that bad word lol....i'm not scared of profanity

Quote:I wouldn't lose sleep over missing out on Murray. I have to say Gurley is likely to be a better back. This is similar to the Cardinals passing on Peterson when they signed Edgerrin James a year earlier. James had just ran for 1500 yards the year he hit FA and the Cardinals got two years of okay production while Peterson would rise to the elite level of players in the league.

 

Similarly Murray may have had one of  the best seasons he could ever have behind one of the best lines in football. It's no secret that his production would slip behind the young Jaguar Line. I'm not doubting Murray's talent, however there is a price point where I would say, nah Gurley is worth either trading back or trading up for. 

Its not a huge loss, its just we want to know so we can move on

Quote:I want to see that bad word lol....i'm not scared of profanity

 

If you like profanity, go somewhere else. Here you have to guess what the bad word is.

Quote:The Cowboys can't outbid us. If the decision is about money, we win this game.

 Free agency isnt an auction. 

Quote:I wouldn't lose sleep over missing out on Murray. I have to say Gurley is likely to be a better back. This is similar to the Cardinals passing on Peterson when they signed Edgerrin James a year earlier. James had just ran for 1500 yards the year he hit FA and the Cardinals got two years of okay production while Peterson would rise to the elite level of players in the league.


Similarly Murray may have had one of the best seasons he could ever have behind one of the best lines in football. It's no secret that his production would slip behind the young Jaguar Line. I'm not doubting Murray's talent, however there is a price point where I would say, nah Gurley is worth either trading back or trading up for.

Exactly this. Thank you.

Quote:<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/fishsports'>mike fisher @fishsports
</a> · <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/fishsports/status/575497271086747648'>31m31 minutes ago</a>


<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/DeMarcoMurray?src=hash'>#
DeMarcoMurray</a> night in DFW not done. Met in private room w Jason Garrett after <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mavs?src=hash'>#
Mavs</a> game. Sources: meeting to continue at another site.

 

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/fishsports'>mike fisher @fishsports
</a> · <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/fishsports/status/575497455950635008'>30m30 minutes ago</a>


One <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash'>#
Cowboys</a> friend of DeMarco tells me the Garrett meeting lasted 10 minutes and was 'significant.' <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/1053thefan'>@
1053thefan</a>

 

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/fishsports'>mike fisher @fishsports
</a> · <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/fishsports/status/575498140129828864'>27m27 minutes ago</a>


Smart bet: <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/DeMarco?src=hash'>#
DeMarco</a>'s feathers ruffled by rough negotiations. In process of being smoothed by friend Garrett as you read this. <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/1053thefan'>@
1053thefan</a>

 

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/fishsports'>mike fisher @fishsports
</a> · <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/fishsports/status/575499253491064832'>23m23 minutes ago</a>


The Garrett/Romo/Witten/DeMarco public appearances were never photo-ops. sincere <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/cowboys?src=hash'>#
cowboys</a> friendships. now time to play that card

The fact that after all we've done that this is taking place means he's going back to me. If so, I'm not upset....would be a great get but not a heart wrenching lost

Quote:I don't get what the argument here is. I am not saying he isn't good. I am saying that at 10 million per year, he is way too much risk, especially if it precludes us from drafting a stud running back if one is staring at us come our pick.


He has suffered through lots of nagging injuries. He was behind a dominant offensive line. He has only had one truly elite year. Compare that to the other top paid running backs who have had multiple elite years. You have not not want to see the risks to not see them.

Thank you. He is not worth what hes asking.

Quote:I agree - but it's only about 300K per year more than minimum - and that's not a ton in NFL dollars these days.

 

While it's a contract the 49ers can afford,  it makes me wonder if the people now running their organization are getting even close to maximizing their resources and making overall good decisions.

Quote:The fact that after all we've done that this is taking place means he's going back to me. If so, I'm not upset....would be a great get but not a heart wrenching lost

 

 

I agree with this assessment.  

Quote:Its not a huge loss, its just we want to know so we can move on

 

I hear you there. I do just wanna know.. Am I buying a Murray Jersey or not?

Well goodnight people. I completely expect to wake up tomorrow with Murray headed back to Dallas.


It was fun while it lasted.

Quote:I don't get what the argument here is. I am not saying he isn't good. I am saying that at 10 million per year, he is way too much risk, especially if it precludes us from drafting a stud running back if one is staring at us come our pick.


He has suffered through lots of nagging injuries. He was behind a dominant offensive line. He has only had one truly elite year. Compare that to the other top paid running backs who have had multiple elite years. You have not not want to see the risks to not see them.

I see your points - and don't really disagree much - I was just pointing out something missing from your prior post. 

 

I never really expected or wanted the Jags to go after Murray.  But I do think he and D-Rob would be a ridiculous combo with Gerhart being a wildcard contributor if the new offensive regime can use them properly. The only reason I remotely condone it is the crazy cap space we have at the moment.

 

(yes a draft pick makes more sense $$-wise  -  if they are willing to spend an early pick - depends on their draft strategy)

Quote:I don't get what the argument here is. I am not saying he isn't good. I am saying that at 10 million per year, he is way too much risk, especially if it precludes us from drafting a stud running back if one is staring at us come our pick.


He has suffered through lots of nagging injuries. He was behind a dominant offensive line. He has only had one truly elite year. Compare that to the other top paid running backs who have had multiple elite years. You have to not want to see the risks to not see them.

 

There is absolutely no risk at all of missing out on a good running back in the draft by signing DeMarco Murray. Getting him would prevent us from needing to draft one.

Quote:I see your points - and don't really disagree much - I was just pointing out something missing from your prior post.


I never really expected or wanted the Jags to go after Murray. But I do think he and D-Rob would be a ridiculous combo with Gerhart being a wildcard contributor if the new offensive regime can use them properly. The only reason I remotely condone it is the crazy cap space we have at the moment.

I agree. He would be a definite upgrade if he were on the roster, no doubt.

Jason Worilds retired?!

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora'>Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/575510488198545411' title="12:16 AM - 11 Mar 2015">40s41 seconds ago</a>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Former Steelers pass rusher Jason Worilds is retiring from the game per a release by his agents. Several teams wanted him in free agency....

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JB_XAM'>Jason Bernstein ‏@JB_XAM </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JB_XAM/status/575509968369139712' title="12:14 AM - 11 Mar 2015">2m2 minutes ago</a>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,248,250);">(1/4) From Jason Worilds: "I appreciate all of the interest from the organizations that have reached out to us the past few days.

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JB_XAM'>Jason Bernstein ‏@JB_XAM </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JB_XAM/status/575510123617128448' title="12:14 AM - 11 Mar 2015">2m2 minutes ago</a>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,248,250);">(2/4)...With that being said, after much thought & consideration I have chosen to step away from football as I have opted to pursue other

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JB_XAM'>Jason Bernstein ‏@JB_XAM </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JB_XAM/status/575510265053253632' title="12:15 AM - 11 Mar 2015">2m2 minutes ago</a>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,248,250);">(3/4) interests. I am especially grateful of the opportunity to play before some of the greatest fans in football today.

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JB_XAM'>Jason Bernstein ‏@JB_XAM </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JB_XAM/status/575510339665719297' title="12:15 AM - 11 Mar 2015">1m1 minute ago</a>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,248,250);">(4/4) Despite any concern and speculation that may ensue, I appreciate those that are respectful of my decision."

Quote:Jason Worilds retired?!

 

Wow. The insanity continues.

Shocking