(08-11-2021, 02:26 AM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-10-2021, 02:19 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Lookup the i-mask+ protocol for prevention. All readily available otc except for the ivermectin. Will help with all kinds of sickness. Designed to help you absorb everything as the zinc and vitamin d can have issues getting into your system. I'm looking for something with quercetin but haven't found a gummy version with everything.
From what I've read, people on that or the math+ hospital protocol have a much lower risk of having a severe case. Supposed to stop it from multiplying and/or making you sick.
If you are sick and go to the hospital, you will test positive, they will keep testing at the 40 cycles until you do test positive. Then they get their government check. Doesn't matter that the tests are recalled and can't tell the difference from the flu. I don't know what the treatment protocol in the area is but I would demand they start large dose vitamins immediately. Then do whatever you have to do to not let them put you on a ventilator.
Saw a video today of a wife talking about the treatment protocol and what they tried to do for her husband, she demanded they give him vitamins and some steroids and he was out in 3.5 days from the ICU when they said 7-10 days.
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PRushing- sorry about the below if it comes across as a personal attack. It’s not meant to be, I am just very frustrated as someone ‘on the front lines’ who constantly deals with the fallout of the information your helping to spread right now. I can’t talk my own father into getting a COVID vaccine despite the fact he would likely die if he got a moderate case cause he believes much of the same things your putting out. Please stop, because once people decide, especially people who think they aren’t high risk but are, that they aren’t getting vaccines and focusing on vitamins they end up with some of the worst outcomes. Not all of them, but it’s really really taxing a patient is saying you made up his COVID while he can’t even breath and starts heading down the toilet. Especially when you know they likely wouldn’t even be in the hospital and certainly not the ICU if they got the vaccine.
I am very familiar with COVID testing at my hospital. The only thing that these conspiracy theories get right is the cycle number being 40. We absolutely test for the variants, the standard swab at my hospital automatically includes Flu and RSV. COVID is able to be tested separately. Heck we even do a panel with 20 different viruses on it sometimes. You do not automatically test positive for COVID when you are admitted inpatient. My hospital would be screwed if this was true due to staffing and ppe.
This qanon BS is just ridiculous. People are making terrible decisions based on information that is no more informed than CNN. Just cause they root for your team doesn’t make them more reliable. If you want actual broken down information I suggest medcram COVID videos. They address most questions that are out there with actual EDM and studies, not conspiracy’s and misinformation. Vitamins are not gonna save you from COVID, and while you absolutely should try to hold off on intubation if possible, it often isn’t possible in severe cases. Delta has absolutely caused a huge spike in admissions in my hospital.
Anyway this is all I got for now. I leave the rest upto FSG.
I can appreciate this position, but don't you think your view can be tainted by the very fact that you are on the front line? All you see are the people who are seriously ill from Covid, but you're not seeing the many, many more that are handling this with no problem. There is a very low death rate for this disease. If we did not live at a time of 24 our news, people would not even know there was a pandemic, especially considering that this has disproportionately affected the very weak and sick. I know that sounds callous, but that should be taken into consideration when doing a global rollout for a vaccine. Optional? Sure. Strongly suggest for the people who are at risk, definitely. But mandates?
Literally every single justification for taking it, outside of the immediate use of reducing severity for the individual, is rendered useless by the way covid is mutating. Don't get me wrong, reducing severity is VERY important, and it's probably the reason we are going to make it through the delta variant alright, but the vaccine is not going to end Covid. We're not going to achieve herd immunity with it. We aren't going to have permanent immunity from the vaccine. We aren't going to stop variants from popping up. We aren't going to stop spreading it to others. The only communal benefit to taking the vaccine is reducing burdens on hospitals, and that is only going to last as long as the shot stays effective, and the data is not looking good on that. We are most likely going to have to take regular boosters. This might have to be something seasonal that hospitals need to prepare for. Until this vaccine gets some time under it's belt, any mandates are reactionary, imo.
I have no doubt about the efficacy of the Covid vaccine, but the simple fact is that this shouldn't be the primary concern as it pertains to a global rollout. There is a whirlwind of information that surrounds every topic, and, at time when people have instant access to whatever strikes there fancy, it's can be hard for people to stay on point in a debate. The concern for the vaccine and the conversation surrounding it should always take place IN THE FUTURE. The problem of the future is NEVER talked about. It can't be, because they have never done a study on it.
The hubris of assuming that science got this right and there can be no possible fallout out dumbfounds me. Just in the last few years, there was a H1N1 vaccine recalled for causing narcolepsy. That took over a year to discover. There was a polio outbreak in the Sudan, Chad, and Camaroon caused by the very vaccine that was supposed to inoculate against it. There have been 5 examples of vaccine recalls due to unintended side affects in the last 20 years, but the Covid vaccine is infallible? The one that was funded by darpa and pushed through production at record-breaking speed. The one that didn't do adequate biodistribution studies? The one that has zone zero long-term studies over 10 months? This one? We're going to just shoot this into the arm of every human being alive and remove the control group that might help link any ties back to the vaccine? For a disease where 99.9% of people survive? How is that not nuts to you?
I can promise you, if this was the Spanish Flu, we'd all be lining up for a novel vaccine because the risk would be worth it. We wouldn't need the media to scare us. We wouldn't need mandates. We would all have watched a love one die and seen, firsthand, the fallout of people losing this battle. This is just not common for the average person with regards to Covid. We should be prudent in how we roll out this vaccine. Period. Only give it to the At risk and volunteers. There are plenty of them. For everyone else, this should fall on the hospitals, just like it does for every other virus. We are more than capable of figuring out how to mitigate the affects of seasonal covid. But throwing out a global rollout this early into the process is it's own form or recklessness.
Personally, I believe if it weren't for the affect of the media, the medical community would not be making this decision. This is why we end up with well-meaning people like p_rush, who start looking to alternate sources for truth. Clean up the institutions. I have never seen such group think in my entire life, because people are scared into making decision based in the present only. Take a step back. Stop having the debate in the present, and let's use our evolved brain to make healthy, long-term decisions. You guys better be right about this vaccine.
And, just to be clear, I have watched every single Medcram video he's posted on coronavirus. I started watching shortly after his first video on the subject. I agree that he is one of the best voices on YouTube wrt Covid, and he's been my go-to for most of my Covid information. That doesn't change anything I wrote.