(10-26-2022, 03:04 PM)jagfan0728 Wrote: [ -> ]Here is a screening of a documentary called "The Real Anthony Fauci". It only remains free for a little over a day, so watch it soon if you're interested.
The Real Anthony Fauci
Interesting watch. Let's hope that a lot of this is brought to light during the Fauci/Big Tech investigations.
The biggest takeaway (and there are many) for me after watching this is how Gates/Zuckerberg and others hide behind foundations. They avoid taxes, come off looking like true philanthropists, and at the same time, can support companies via foundation donations that can then effect changes that make companies that they are indirectly invested in (via the Blackstock and Vanguard's of the world) wildly profitable. It's deviously brilliant. Considering that they are playing with public health in a lot of recent instances, some might say devilishly manipulative.
My husband has Covid. He had it last year too but his symptoms were very mild and lasted two days. This time it's doing him so wrong. Highly symptomatic and probably highly contagious. The symptoms are different as well.
Last year it was a little sinus pressure and congestion, no taste and no smell and some fatigue. This time it's full on chest and sinus congestion, fever, chills, fatigue, sour stomach, elevated heart rate though his blood pressure is not high.
Has anyone here had it more than once and have completely different symptoms?
(11-11-2022, 04:50 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]My husband has Covid. He had it last year too but his symptoms were very mild and lasted two days. This time it's doing him so wrong. Highly symptomatic and probably highly contagious. The symptoms are different as well.
Last year it was a little sinus pressure and congestion, no taste and no smell and some fatigue. This time it's full on chest and sinus congestion, fever, chills, fatigue, sour stomach, elevated heart rate though his blood pressure is not high.
Has anyone here had it more than once and have completely different symptoms?
I had it in 2020 in Oct and then in July of 2022. Less prolonged the 2nd time, with milder symptoms, and a shorter duration. Similar symptoms both times tho; chest congestion, fever, lethargy. Just not as pronounced the 2nd time. No vaccines, no boosters, and if I've had it since July, its been so asymptomatic as not to notice. He probably has the 1st Detla variant. That was the bad one.
(11-11-2022, 05:44 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ] (11-11-2022, 04:50 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]My husband has Covid. He had it last year too but his symptoms were very mild and lasted two days. This time it's doing him so wrong. Highly symptomatic and probably highly contagious. The symptoms are different as well.
Last year it was a little sinus pressure and congestion, no taste and no smell and some fatigue. This time it's full on chest and sinus congestion, fever, chills, fatigue, sour stomach, elevated heart rate though his blood pressure is not high.
Has anyone here had it more than once and have completely different symptoms?
I had it in 2020 in Oct and then in July of 2022. Less prolonged the 2nd time, with milder symptoms, and a shorter duration. Similar symptoms both times tho; chest congestion, fever, lethargy. Just not as pronounced the 2nd time. No vaccines, no boosters, and if I've had it since July, its been so asymptomatic as not to notice. He probably has the 1st Detla variant. That was the bad one.
Thanks! Doc prescribed paxlovid and we'll see how it works. Hubby's dad said it helped him. Neither of us were vaccinated. I think I may have had it last week. Similar symptoms to when I had it last year which was all sinus but 95% milder. I didn't give it a second thought since it's allergy season here and my sinuses always react to that.
(11-11-2022, 07:00 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-11-2022, 05:44 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]I had it in 2020 in Oct and then in July of 2022. Less prolonged the 2nd time, with milder symptoms, and a shorter duration. Similar symptoms both times tho; chest congestion, fever, lethargy. Just not as pronounced the 2nd time. No vaccines, no boosters, and if I've had it since July, its been so asymptomatic as not to notice. He probably has the 1st Detla variant. That was the bad one.
Thanks! Doc prescribed paxlovid and we'll see how it works. Hubby's dad said it helped him. Neither of us were vaccinated. I think I may have had it last week. Similar symptoms to when I had it last year which was all sinus but 95% milder. I didn't give it a second thought since it's allergy season here and my sinuses always react to that.
Look it up before taking it. They are finally admitting it causes people to get covid again 1-2 weeks later. The efficacy looks to be minimal at best.
I know doctors usually won't give it to you but ivermectin and hcq actually work. If it were me, I'd take the horse paste or drive to Tennessee and get the pills OTC. It works if you take it in the first few days, sooner the better. Everyone I know who took it were better within 24 hours.
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6 weeks immune after getting xovid
(11-11-2022, 09:11 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (11-11-2022, 07:00 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks! Doc prescribed paxlovid and we'll see how it works. Hubby's dad said it helped him. Neither of us were vaccinated. I think I may have had it last week. Similar symptoms to when I had it last year which was all sinus but 95% milder. I didn't give it a second thought since it's allergy season here and my sinuses always react to that.
Look it up before taking it. They are finally admitting it causes people to get covid again 1-2 weeks later. The efficacy looks to be minimal at best.
I know doctors usually won't give it to you but ivermectin and hcq actually work. If it were me, I'd take the horse paste or drive to Tennessee and get the pills OTC. It works if you take it in the first few days, sooner the better. Everyone I know who took it were better within 24 hours.
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Ridiculous.
It looks like my hubby shared his sickness though I haven't tested yet I feel rough. Gotta love him! If I have it it is definitely different symptoms than my first go round so I'm thinking a different variant.
I have to say this is different than the flu, though I 100% see it as the new flu. As in it's here to stay. I've had the flu maybe once in my life and now I have Covid twice in 17 months. Persistent bugger.
(11-12-2022, 08:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-11-2022, 09:11 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Look it up before taking it. They are finally admitting it causes people to get covid again 1-2 weeks later. The efficacy looks to be minimal at best.
I know doctors usually won't give it to you but ivermectin and hcq actually work. If it were me, I'd take the horse paste or drive to Tennessee and get the pills OTC. It works if you take it in the first few days, sooner the better. Everyone I know who took it were better within 24 hours.
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Ridiculous.
“I won’t post the link but you can look it up for yourself. I know what I’m talking about”
(11-12-2022, 12:02 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2022, 08:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Ridiculous.
“I won’t post the link but you can look it up for yourself. I know what I’m talking about”
Ivermectin is the new Al Gore. Every three months or so we'll get another story about how after another recount he still didn't win the election.
For those still worried about post vaccine illness concerns here's a good rundown:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna55666
In every case the risks with contracting Covid-19 far exceed those associated with the vaccine. Don't let the misinformation specialists fool you.
Lol. Was myocarditus in men under 40 on that list?
(11-12-2022, 02:42 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]For those still worried about post vaccine illness concerns here's a good rundown:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna55666
In every case the risks with contracting Covid-19 far exceed those associated with the vaccine. Don't let the misinformation specialists fool you.
As one who works in the medical industry and supported the vaccine mandates in real time; in hindsight is there anything you would change? More specifically how do you feel about natural immunity now?
(11-12-2022, 05:47 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2022, 02:42 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]For those still worried about post vaccine illness concerns here's a good rundown:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna55666
In every case the risks with contracting Covid-19 far exceed those associated with the vaccine. Don't let the misinformation specialists fool you.
As one who works in the medical industry and supported the vaccine mandates in real time; in hindsight is there anything you would change? More specifically how do you feel about natural immunity now?
As one who works in the medical industry the most basic fact is that we half-[BLEEP] the response. Standard Precautions only work if they are used in controlled environments where everyone knows and follows the guidelines. For instance, despite the nonsense to the contrary, we know that masks do in fact work but only when everyone agrees to use them correctly. Our collective actions in the months of 2020 were not close to stringent enough but what we did manage to do prevented our medical facilities from being overwhelmed for the most part. It should be noted for future pandemics that the politicization of just about everything will prevent us from implementing such protective measures widescale in our communities. An example of where they realized full implementation is Australia and we can do pretty simple comparisons to see the difference. We also have to plan for the stratification of our healthcare system into the various national, federal, federal, state, and local organizations, something that countries with nationalized healthcare systems didn't have to deal with. For instance, although we all agree that physical space helps reduce transmission, many different recommendations came out in such a way that it was inconsistent and seemed capricious. The same with contract and post-illness guidance, the evolution of the recommendations for how many days to isolate gave the Conspiracy Theorists something to grab onto to sow doubts. I'm not saying we have to socialize everything but we have to improve the mechanisms that allow those various organizations to communicate and collaborate together. Natural Immunity is a double-edged sword, in order to have it you have to get the disease and we all agree that treating those who contracted the serious versions of this disease was costly and resource intensive. As for supporting the mandates, I supported the employer's right to mandate; I didn't support the government mandating that everyone must get the shot.
(11-12-2022, 05:15 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. Was myocarditus in men under 40 on that list?
Lol, yes, and the number is still less than cases associated with contracting the virus itself.
"The vast majority of cases occur in young men, ages 16 to 24, according to the CDC. The agency did not have data available on the total number of cases in young adults 24 and younger, but it estimates there have been 52.4 cases and 56.3 cases per million doses of Pfizer's and Moderna's vaccines, respectively."
(11-12-2022, 08:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-11-2022, 09:11 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Look it up before taking it. They are finally admitting it causes people to get covid again 1-2 weeks later. The efficacy looks to be minimal at best.
I know doctors usually won't give it to you but ivermectin and hcq actually work. If it were me, I'd take the horse paste or drive to Tennessee and get the pills OTC. It works if you take it in the first few days, sooner the better. Everyone I know who took it were better within 24 hours.
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Ridiculous.
Its worked in Africa but i guess it cant in Amerika.
(11-12-2022, 11:39 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]It looks like my hubby shared his sickness though I haven't tested yet I feel rough. Gotta love him! If I have it it is definitely different symptoms than my first go round so I'm thinking a different variant.
I have to say this is different than the flu, though I 100% see it as the new flu. As in it's here to stay. I've had the flu maybe once in my life and now I have Covid twice in 17 months. Persistent bugger.
Get a zpac, and a steroid shot if you are having breathing diffuculties.
(11-12-2022, 07:52 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2022, 05:47 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]As one who works in the medical industry and supported the vaccine mandates in real time; in hindsight is there anything you would change? More specifically how do you feel about natural immunity now?
As one who works in the medical industry the most basic fact is that we half-[BLEEP] the response. Standard Precautions only work if they are used in controlled environments where everyone knows and follows the guidelines. For instance, despite the nonsense to the contrary, we know that masks do in fact work but only when everyone agrees to use them correctly. Our collective actions in the months of 2020 were not close to stringent enough but what we did manage to do prevented our medical facilities from being overwhelmed for the most part. It should be noted for future pandemics that the politicization of just about everything will prevent us from implementing such protective measures widescale in our communities. An example of where they realized full implementation is Australia and we can do pretty simple comparisons to see the difference. We also have to plan for the stratification of our healthcare system into the various national, federal, federal, state, and local organizations, something that countries with nationalized healthcare systems didn't have to deal with. For instance, although we all agree that physical space helps reduce transmission, many different recommendations came out in such a way that it was inconsistent and seemed capricious. The same with contract and post-illness guidance, the evolution of the recommendations for how many days to isolate gave the Conspiracy Theorists something to grab onto to sow doubts. I'm not saying we have to socialize everything but we have to improve the mechanisms that allow those various organizations to communicate and collaborate together. Natural Immunity is a double-edged sword, in order to have it you have to get the disease and we all agree that treating those who contracted the serious versions of this disease was costly and resource intensive. As for supporting the mandates, I supported the employer's right to mandate; I didn't support the government mandating that everyone must get the shot.
(11-12-2022, 05:15 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. Was myocarditus in men under 40 on that list?
Lol, yes, and the number is still less than cases associated with contracting the virus itself.
"The vast majority of cases occur in young men, ages 16 to 24, according to the CDC. The agency did not have data available on the total number of cases in young adults 24 and younger, but it estimates there have been 52.4 cases and 56.3 cases per million doses of Pfizer's and Moderna's vaccines, respectively."
Are you a medical provider?
(11-12-2022, 08:43 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2022, 08:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Ridiculous.
Its worked in Africa but i guess it cant in Amerika.
(11-12-2022, 11:39 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]It looks like my hubby shared his sickness though I haven't tested yet I feel rough. Gotta love him! If I have it it is definitely different symptoms than my first go round so I'm thinking a different variant.
I have to say this is different than the flu, though I 100% see it as the new flu. As in it's here to stay. I've had the flu maybe once in my life and now I have Covid twice in 17 months. Persistent bugger.
Get a zpac, and a steroid shot if you are having breathing diffuculties.
(11-12-2022, 07:52 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]As one who works in the medical industry the most basic fact is that we half-[BLEEP] the response. Standard Precautions only work if they are used in controlled environments where everyone knows and follows the guidelines. For instance, despite the nonsense to the contrary, we know that masks do in fact work but only when everyone agrees to use them correctly. Our collective actions in the months of 2020 were not close to stringent enough but what we did manage to do prevented our medical facilities from being overwhelmed for the most part. It should be noted for future pandemics that the politicization of just about everything will prevent us from implementing such protective measures widescale in our communities. An example of where they realized full implementation is Australia and we can do pretty simple comparisons to see the difference. We also have to plan for the stratification of our healthcare system into the various national, federal, federal, state, and local organizations, something that countries with nationalized healthcare systems didn't have to deal with. For instance, although we all agree that physical space helps reduce transmission, many different recommendations came out in such a way that it was inconsistent and seemed capricious. The same with contract and post-illness guidance, the evolution of the recommendations for how many days to isolate gave the Conspiracy Theorists something to grab onto to sow doubts. I'm not saying we have to socialize everything but we have to improve the mechanisms that allow those various organizations to communicate and collaborate together. Natural Immunity is a double-edged sword, in order to have it you have to get the disease and we all agree that treating those who contracted the serious versions of this disease was costly and resource intensive. As for supporting the mandates, I supported the employer's right to mandate; I didn't support the government mandating that everyone must get the shot.
Lol, yes, and the number is still less than cases associated with contracting the virus itself.
"The vast majority of cases occur in young men, ages 16 to 24, according to the CDC. The agency did not have data available on the total number of cases in young adults 24 and younger, but it estimates there have been 52.4 cases and 56.3 cases per million doses of Pfizer's and Moderna's vaccines, respectively."
Are you a medical provider?
No I'm not. And no, it didn't do anything in Africa.
https://africacdc.org/download/statement...-covid-19/
(11-12-2022, 01:05 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-12-2022, 12:02 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]“I won’t post the link but you can look it up for yourself. I know what I’m talking about”
Ivermectin is the new Al Gore. Every three months or so we'll get another story about how after another recount he still didn't win the election.
(11-12-2022, 08:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-11-2022, 09:11 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Look it up before taking it. They are finally admitting it causes people to get covid again 1-2 weeks later. The efficacy looks to be minimal at best.
I know doctors usually won't give it to you but ivermectin and hcq actually work. If it were me, I'd take the horse paste or drive to Tennessee and get the pills OTC. It works if you take it in the first few days, sooner the better. Everyone I know who took it were better within 24 hours.
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Ridiculous.
Did you take it or know anyone that did? If not, then shutup about it as you have no knowledge about it. You are relying on corrupt people to tell you that they did it for you. How many times have they been proven wrong in the last 2 years?
I have firsthand knowledge that within 24 hours people who took it were better. You can quote whatever made up study you want. The real studies that didn't wait until people were on their deathbed or purposely overdose them all showed minimum +60s%. Most studies showed in the 80s%. Those studies weren't paid for by the people benefiting from there being no treatments so they could get EUAs.
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Bull [BLEEP] conspiracy nutter.
I have finally seen some well-done studies that support what FSG is claiming. Ivermectin is probably useful in very specific instances that aren't really common in the US, which is why we have gotten different data than some of these other places in the world. Also, I think there is a placebo effect that is probably not showing up in these studies because most of them contain a placebo. It's well known that stress plays a role in exacerbating Covid, so giving people anything that might reduce their stress might come in handy in reducing severity. Unfortunately, that's not going to be super distinguishable in many of these studies. Regardless, my problem with Ivermectin was ALWAYS that it is a safe and essentially harmless drug and shouldn't EVER have been denied as a trial treatment.
So, what data overrides the study I posted about myocarditis in men under 40?
(11-13-2022, 01:12 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I have finally seen some well-done studies that support what FSG is claiming. Ivermectin is probably useful in very specific instances that aren't really common in the US, which is why we have gotten different data than some of these other places in the world. Also, I think there is a placebo effect that is probably not showing up in these studies because most of them contain a placebo. It's well known that stress plays a role in exacerbating Covid, so giving people anything that might reduce their stress might come in handy in reducing severity. Unfortunately, that's not going to be super distinguishable in many of these studies. Regardless, my problem with Ivermectin was ALWAYS that it is a safe and essentially harmless drug and shouldn't EVER have been denied as a trial treatment.
So, what data overrides the study I posted about myocarditis in men under 40?
I don't know if it was ivermectin or hcq, or could have been the combination but it definitely wasn't a placebo. It could also be other aspects that helped it work in these people. Unfortunately we probably won't ever have a study that can prove exactly what works best. And like you said it's harmless though so you may as well try it. The hcq is harmless as long as you stay in the proper dosage. Doctors have also had success with zpak and one or both of those.
It's too bad no one wanted to listen to the people treating the patients and instead listened to Fauci and others who had already killed a bunch of gay men with his failed aids treatment and drugs.
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