(07-09-2020, 02:05 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Don't fall for his feint! He already knows your point, and is just baiting you, bro. Don't you know?
No, in this case I'm politely telling him that he failed to make any point.
(07-09-2020, 02:17 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ] (07-09-2020, 12:29 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]If our hospitals and ICU's are supposedly struggling THIS badly with what most would consider a minor pandemic, can you imagine if something catastrophic hit this country?
My girlfriend is a scientist working for the military on COVID treatments. And she tells me that yes, this is in fact the military's greatest concern-- our susceptibility to bioterrorism.
Although many would argue that this qualifies as something major, despite what you may think.
Yes, lots of people make of poor arguments all the time.
(07-09-2020, 02:17 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ] (07-09-2020, 12:29 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]If our hospitals and ICU's are supposedly struggling THIS badly with what most would consider a minor pandemic, can you imagine if something catastrophic hit this country?
My girlfriend is a scientist working for the military on COVID treatments. And she tells me that yes, this is in fact the military's greatest concern-- our susceptibility to bioterrorism.
Although many would argue that this qualifies as something major, despite what you may think.
Imagine a pandemic that impacts over 1% of people under 35. Then our healthcare system has a REAL problem.
But hey, maybe the government can run it better. That is the end goal of all this, right?
(07-09-2020, 08:37 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-09-2020, 02:17 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ]My girlfriend is a scientist working for the military on COVID treatments. And she tells me that yes, this is in fact the military's greatest concern-- our susceptibility to bioterrorism.
Although many would argue that this qualifies as something major, despite what you may think.
Imagine a pandemic that impacts over 1% of people under 35. Then our healthcare system has a REAL problem.
But hey, maybe the government can run it better. That is the end goal of all this, right?
That's still not really a big deal. Imagine an Ebola outbreak where the CFR is regularly between 40$ and 90%. That's a pandemic that would destroy our civilization, especially if it mutated into aerosolized transmission. Peking Lung AIDS is a minor irritant in comparison.
The Democrats figured out a way to fix the overcrowding ICU/hospital issue. Let millions of illegals past our border and give them free healthcare.
(07-09-2020, 05:46 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-09-2020, 02:05 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Don't fall for his feint! He already knows your point, and is just baiting you, bro. Don't you know?
No, in this case I'm politely telling him that he failed to make any point.
Are you sure? Oh, is this a feint? Mikesez, the last stylebender, just coming at this from all the angles.
Since so many here vehemently value reopening Applebee's over human lives, I'm listing some of the recent obituaries of Floridians lost to COVID-19:
Wayne Sternberg, 71, Lakeland:
Wayne Sternberg spent his career in banking but was a woodworker at heart. At 9, he built his first rabbit hutch and a dog house. Later, he progressed to model sailboats. When his two grandsons came along, he shared his passion for building with LEGO boat model projects.
In retirement, he loved to golf, visit car and plane shows with his wife, or spend time riding bikes and hanging out by the pool with his grandsons. A Disney enthusiast since the 1980s, Disney World was the go-to vacation spot for celebrations over the years. He and his wife took the entire family on a three-day trip there earlier this year.
“Wayne had a beautiful and loving smile, twinkling eyes, and one of the kindest souls,” his family wrote.
Birdie Eileen Williams Underwood, 71, Tampa
Birdie Eileen Williams Underwood, a Tampa native, spent 40 years teaching children at J.R. Booker Elementary School. She was a proud graduate of Bethune-Cookman University and an active member in the Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority.
Even after retiring from the Hillsborough County school district, Ms. Underwood still wanted to help children and worked as a part-time reading tutor.
[Hillsborough County medical examiner, Aikens Funeral Home]
Sandra Aprilah, 64, West Palm Beach
Not long after they met on a dating app three or four years ago, Sandra Aprilah asked John Cole Jr. to move in with her. Both were looking for companionship, and they developed a quick bond. They fished off a bridge — Cole doing the baiting, Ms. Aprilah the reeling — and took their catch home to clean and cook. They went to church and the movies together, and he brought her bagels and sausage sandwiches.
Earlier this year, Ms. Aprilah told an old friend to look after Cole if anything happened to her, and in March, she came down with a fever. She died April 5, with Cole caring for her until the end.
Lynann Seymour, 68, Tampa
Lyn Seymour got her start at WEDU in Tampa. She never stopped working in public media, her career taking her from Gainesville to Dallas. At PBS, she worked on shows like Zoboomafoo and Calliou.
At work, she was a mentor to other women, many of whom say they owe her a debt. She and her husband loved to travel. Seymour fell sick after the two returned from a trip to Egypt.
Lois Renz, 73, Tampa
Lois Renz moved to Tampa in the late 1960s after serving in the U.S. Air Force, and quickly made it her home. Her kids called her “Mez,” and her grandkids called her Grammy. She stayed close with her friends, better known as “The Group.” Every month, all 14 of them got together, knowing they could look forward to Ms. Renz’s funny stories and her laugh.
Sheila Remley [Remley family]
Sheila Remley died at Morton Plant Hospital with a nurse holding her hand. She was popular at her mobile home park community, hosting parties and dinners. According to her daughter, she had just started dating a fellow resident, Jim Ayotte. He, too, died after contracting the virus.
Ms. Remley loved to travel. In May, she had planned a cruise to Amsterdam.
Darla Perry, 56, Tampa
She poured her creativity into scrapbooks, sewing projects and her famous pumpkin oatmeal raisin cookies. She was a generous friend and mother, up for early-morning phone calls. On beach trips and Disney cruises to Castaway Cay, she loved most of all to see the water.
[Hillsborough medical examiner, obituary and virtual visitation]
Nicholas Pape III, 52, St. Petersburg
Nicholas Pape grew up moving from place to place, bounced by his dad’s military job. He went to the University of Connecticut, fell in love with the Huskies men’s basketball team, pledged Sigma Phi Epsilon. He fell in love, married Charisse and, a few cities later, found St. Petersburg. He was “loved by everybody,” his obituary says, kind and gentle.
George “Moose” Near, 72, Zephyrhills
George Near, Moose as he was known to friends, died on June 28. His friends and family plan to have a “drive-thru” memorial. Near leaves behind his wife, Poppy, and two sons.
There are literally 4000 more just like these in FL alone...
Sorry for those lives lost, but can you post the lives lost to other illnesses as well? Maybe the people who skipped routine screening that could have caught a cancer? Also, nobody under 50 in there.
You can still be sad for people losing their lives to illness yet aware of the damage to the economy. It isn't one or the other.
(07-10-2020, 11:18 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Since so many here vehemently value reopening Applebee's over human lives, I'm listing some of the recent obituaries of Floridians lost to COVID-19:
Wayne Sternberg, 71, Lakeland:
Wayne Sternberg spent his career in banking but was a woodworker at heart. At 9, he built his first rabbit hutch and a dog house. Later, he progressed to model sailboats. When his two grandsons came along, he shared his passion for building with LEGO boat model projects.
In retirement, he loved to golf, visit car and plane shows with his wife, or spend time riding bikes and hanging out by the pool with his grandsons. A Disney enthusiast since the 1980s, Disney World was the go-to vacation spot for celebrations over the years. He and his wife took the entire family on a three-day trip there earlier this year.
“Wayne had a beautiful and loving smile, twinkling eyes, and one of the kindest souls,” his family wrote.
Birdie Eileen Williams Underwood, 71, Tampa
Birdie Eileen Williams Underwood, a Tampa native, spent 40 years teaching children at J.R. Booker Elementary School. She was a proud graduate of Bethune-Cookman University and an active member in the Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority.
Even after retiring from the Hillsborough County school district, Ms. Underwood still wanted to help children and worked as a part-time reading tutor.
[Hillsborough County medical examiner, Aikens Funeral Home]
Sandra Aprilah, 64, West Palm Beach
Not long after they met on a dating app three or four years ago, Sandra Aprilah asked John Cole Jr. to move in with her. Both were looking for companionship, and they developed a quick bond. They fished off a bridge — Cole doing the baiting, Ms. Aprilah the reeling — and took their catch home to clean and cook. They went to church and the movies together, and he brought her bagels and sausage sandwiches.
Earlier this year, Ms. Aprilah told an old friend to look after Cole if anything happened to her, and in March, she came down with a fever. She died April 5, with Cole caring for her until the end.
Lynann Seymour, 68, Tampa
Lyn Seymour got her start at WEDU in Tampa. She never stopped working in public media, her career taking her from Gainesville to Dallas. At PBS, she worked on shows like Zoboomafoo and Calliou.
At work, she was a mentor to other women, many of whom say they owe her a debt. She and her husband loved to travel. Seymour fell sick after the two returned from a trip to Egypt.
Lois Renz, 73, Tampa
Lois Renz moved to Tampa in the late 1960s after serving in the U.S. Air Force, and quickly made it her home. Her kids called her “Mez,” and her grandkids called her Grammy. She stayed close with her friends, better known as “The Group.” Every month, all 14 of them got together, knowing they could look forward to Ms. Renz’s funny stories and her laugh.
Sheila Remley [Remley family]
Sheila Remley died at Morton Plant Hospital with a nurse holding her hand. She was popular at her mobile home park community, hosting parties and dinners. According to her daughter, she had just started dating a fellow resident, Jim Ayotte. He, too, died after contracting the virus.
Ms. Remley loved to travel. In May, she had planned a cruise to Amsterdam.
Darla Perry, 56, Tampa
She poured her creativity into scrapbooks, sewing projects and her famous pumpkin oatmeal raisin cookies. She was a generous friend and mother, up for early-morning phone calls. On beach trips and Disney cruises to Castaway Cay, she loved most of all to see the water.
[Hillsborough medical examiner, obituary and virtual visitation]
Nicholas Pape III, 52, St. Petersburg
Nicholas Pape grew up moving from place to place, bounced by his dad’s military job. He went to the University of Connecticut, fell in love with the Huskies men’s basketball team, pledged Sigma Phi Epsilon. He fell in love, married Charisse and, a few cities later, found St. Petersburg. He was “loved by everybody,” his obituary says, kind and gentle.
George “Moose” Near, 72, Zephyrhills
George Near, Moose as he was known to friends, died on June 28. His friends and family plan to have a “drive-thru” memorial. Near leaves behind his wife, Poppy, and two sons.
There are literally 4000 more just like these in FL alone...
Yes, people have died. Each one is a tragedy to someone, but every one is also irrelevant to the individual needs of nearly everyone else, especially people who need Applebee's to be open so they can eat. If the world must stop because people die then the world can never start.
So now we are spamming the board with random obits? That is just ridiculous.
(07-10-2020, 12:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2020, 11:18 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Since so many here vehemently value reopening Applebee's over human lives, I'm listing some of the recent obituaries of Floridians lost to COVID-19:
Wayne Sternberg, 71, Lakeland:
Wayne Sternberg spent his career in banking but was a woodworker at heart. At 9, he built his first rabbit hutch and a dog house. Later, he progressed to model sailboats. When his two grandsons came along, he shared his passion for building with LEGO boat model projects.
In retirement, he loved to golf, visit car and plane shows with his wife, or spend time riding bikes and hanging out by the pool with his grandsons. A Disney enthusiast since the 1980s, Disney World was the go-to vacation spot for celebrations over the years. He and his wife took the entire family on a three-day trip there earlier this year.
“Wayne had a beautiful and loving smile, twinkling eyes, and one of the kindest souls,” his family wrote.
Birdie Eileen Williams Underwood, 71, Tampa
Birdie Eileen Williams Underwood, a Tampa native, spent 40 years teaching children at J.R. Booker Elementary School. She was a proud graduate of Bethune-Cookman University and an active member in the Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority.
Even after retiring from the Hillsborough County school district, Ms. Underwood still wanted to help children and worked as a part-time reading tutor.
[Hillsborough County medical examiner, Aikens Funeral Home]
Sandra Aprilah, 64, West Palm Beach
Not long after they met on a dating app three or four years ago, Sandra Aprilah asked John Cole Jr. to move in with her. Both were looking for companionship, and they developed a quick bond. They fished off a bridge — Cole doing the baiting, Ms. Aprilah the reeling — and took their catch home to clean and cook. They went to church and the movies together, and he brought her bagels and sausage sandwiches.
Earlier this year, Ms. Aprilah told an old friend to look after Cole if anything happened to her, and in March, she came down with a fever. She died April 5, with Cole caring for her until the end.
Lynann Seymour, 68, Tampa
Lyn Seymour got her start at WEDU in Tampa. She never stopped working in public media, her career taking her from Gainesville to Dallas. At PBS, she worked on shows like Zoboomafoo and Calliou.
At work, she was a mentor to other women, many of whom say they owe her a debt. She and her husband loved to travel. Seymour fell sick after the two returned from a trip to Egypt.
Lois Renz, 73, Tampa
Lois Renz moved to Tampa in the late 1960s after serving in the U.S. Air Force, and quickly made it her home. Her kids called her “Mez,” and her grandkids called her Grammy. She stayed close with her friends, better known as “The Group.” Every month, all 14 of them got together, knowing they could look forward to Ms. Renz’s funny stories and her laugh.
Sheila Remley [Remley family]
Sheila Remley died at Morton Plant Hospital with a nurse holding her hand. She was popular at her mobile home park community, hosting parties and dinners. According to her daughter, she had just started dating a fellow resident, Jim Ayotte. He, too, died after contracting the virus.
Ms. Remley loved to travel. In May, she had planned a cruise to Amsterdam.
Darla Perry, 56, Tampa
She poured her creativity into scrapbooks, sewing projects and her famous pumpkin oatmeal raisin cookies. She was a generous friend and mother, up for early-morning phone calls. On beach trips and Disney cruises to Castaway Cay, she loved most of all to see the water.
[Hillsborough medical examiner, obituary and virtual visitation]
Nicholas Pape III, 52, St. Petersburg
Nicholas Pape grew up moving from place to place, bounced by his dad’s military job. He went to the University of Connecticut, fell in love with the Huskies men’s basketball team, pledged Sigma Phi Epsilon. He fell in love, married Charisse and, a few cities later, found St. Petersburg. He was “loved by everybody,” his obituary says, kind and gentle.
George “Moose” Near, 72, Zephyrhills
George Near, Moose as he was known to friends, died on June 28. His friends and family plan to have a “drive-thru” memorial. Near leaves behind his wife, Poppy, and two sons.
There are literally 4000 more just like these in FL alone...
Yes, people have died. Each one is a tragedy to someone, but every one is also irrelevant to the individual needs of nearly everyone else, especially people who need Applebee's to be open so they can eat. If the world must stop because people die then the world can never start.
Please don’t eat at Applebee’s.
Applebee's ain't what it used to be.
(07-10-2020, 02:43 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2020, 12:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, people have died. Each one is a tragedy to someone, but every one is also irrelevant to the individual needs of nearly everyone else, especially people who need Applebee's to be open so they can eat. If the world must stop because people die then the world can never start.
Please don’t eat at Applebee’s.
Insert any restaurant name here.*
(07-10-2020, 03:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2020, 02:43 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Please don’t eat at Applebee’s.
Insert any restaurant name here.*
*insert most chain restaurants here
When everything opens up at full capacity, just promise me you won’t go to Applebee’s. PROMISE ME!
(07-10-2020, 03:29 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2020, 03:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Insert any restaurant name here.*
*insert most chain restaurants here
When everything opens up at full capacity, just promise me you won’t go to Applebee’s. PROMISE ME!
I really can't remember that last time I went to an Applebee's TBH. I don't know that I ever will again in any case.
(07-10-2020, 03:29 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2020, 03:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Insert any restaurant name here.*
*insert most chain restaurants here
When everything opens up at full capacity, just promise me you won’t go to Applebee’s. PROMISE ME!
BRING BACK THE LIKE BUTTON!
Applebee’s is still around? ...peasants
Houston hospitals are overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients.
https://www.click2houston.com/news/local...ncy-rooms/
"Houston hospitals have been forced to treat hundreds of COVID-19 patients in their emergency rooms — sometimes for several hours or multiple days — as they scramble to open additional intensive care beds for the wave of seriously ill people streaming through their doors, according to internal numbers shared with NBC News and ProPublica.
"At the same time, the region’s 12 busiest hospitals are increasingly telling emergency responders that they cannot safely accept new patients, at a rate nearly three times that of a year ago, according to data reviewed by reporters."
It's notable- if you go to Foxnews.com, all they cover is the culture war, because that is the Trump campaign's strategy. I don't see anything about the Covid-19 crisis, and that is because the Trump campaign wants to act like it doesn't exist.