(02-27-2020, 01:30 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (02-27-2020, 01:16 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]More new cases in South Korea than China - or perhaps the reporting is more accurate in SK
China and Japan have closed schools nationwide.
The Iranian VP has been diagnosed with the virus and the Iranian Ambassador to the Vatican has died.
And the stock market is puking another 300+ points...
Went to Costco Tuesday, saw several Asians stocking up heavily on dry goods, etc.
I bought a lot of batteries and cooking oil.
Do you not visit Costco that often? Every time I'm go there are Asians stocking up on dry goods by the cart load.
I can't afford to go as often as I'd like. I figure most people buying 50# sacks of rice are reselling it in a restaurant or grocery. But Chinese restaurants are in total freefall, with traffic down 30% - 70% and commerce in Chinatowns worldwide is dropping off a cliff. So maybe they are stocking up for self-quaranteen.
(02-27-2020, 01:54 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ] (02-27-2020, 01:30 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Do you not visit Costco that often? Every time I'm go there are Asians stocking up on dry goods by the cart load.
I can't afford to go as often as I'd like. I figure most people buying 50# sacks of rice are reselling it in a restaurant or grocery. But Chinese restaurants are in total freefall, with traffic down 30% - 70% and commerce in Chinatowns worldwide is dropping off a cliff. So maybe they are stocking up for self-quaranteen.
I know one Asian really well, and that is my wife, and she buys the big bags of rice from Costco because she likes to eat rice, and even more than that, she likes a good deal. That's all there is to it.
(02-27-2020, 11:10 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]325,000 people enter the United States by air every day. There are also people driving cars and trucks across the border legally, people working on cargo ships, and basically so many more people entering the United States legally compared to illegally, so this is not an issue of controlling illegal immigration.
I was careful with my words. I am talking about regulation. You have no ability to screen illegal immigration. I don't think this is THE reason to increase border security, but it is a contributing factor on why a nation should be able to account for people coming in and out of the country.
As for the vaccine. I agree that we are still a ways out. It's just a positive sign that they should start human trials soon. If this is a virus that mutates and prevents the body from building a natural immunity, it is at least hopeful that we have something on the horizon that may help protect against waves of deaths year after year.
(02-27-2020, 10:25 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (02-27-2020, 10:22 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Are potentially infected people entering our country undetected not a legitimate issue of concern? I’m sure the CDC, and any other agency tasked with controlling this virus, would be keenly interested in preventing this type of spread.
But I get it, it’s an election year, so even the prevention of a potential pandemic is political fodder. Laugh away.
Fund the CDC first. You know, the organization tasked with curing this [BLEEP]? Yes, I think it's hilarious that this potential pandemic is being turned into political fodder by those on the right who just can't get their panties un-bunched about Americans not wanting their white picket fence.
Why we are 20 plus trillion in debt.
(02-27-2020, 10:25 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (02-27-2020, 10:22 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Are potentially infected people entering our country undetected not a legitimate issue of concern? I’m sure the CDC, and any other agency tasked with controlling this virus, would be keenly interested in preventing this type of spread.
But I get it, it’s an election year, so even the prevention of a potential pandemic is political fodder. Laugh away.
Fund the CDC first. You know, the organization tasked with curing this [BLEEP]? Yes, I think it's hilarious that this potential pandemic is being turned into political fodder by those on the right who just can't get their panties un-bunched about Americans not wanting their white picket fence.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/ap-fact-ch...oronavirus
FYI...I would say a large majority of the panic and political pandering was started and is still being perpetrated by the left political leadership and their sheep.
You have left wing radicals ignoring health professionals and putting panic in people because they hate the president.
If there is a hell, these people are going to it. What a bizarre time in our country. Gotta wonder what would happen if we had a terrorist attack on US soil, God forbid.
Gavin Newsome claims they are "monitoring" 8400 people in California
The numbers just don't support this panic we are seeing...
More people are stricken by and die from the Flu each year than Covid 19 or any of the past viral outbreaks. China is a nation of around a billion people. The rate of infection based upon reports is 0.00005 percent of their population. To compare that to the United States population, the impact in China as of yesterday would be the equivalent to less than 20,000 people out of 330,000,000 being infected. Why are the markets in panic over these numbers? Influenza, which strikes every year infects far more (and kills far more) than Covid 19 ever will, but yet the Market does not flux 10% in two days when flu breaks out.
(02-27-2020, 06:01 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]The numbers just don't support this panic we are seeing...
More people are stricken by and die from the Flu each year than Covid 19 or any of the past viral outbreaks. China is a nation of around a billion people. The rate of infection based upon reports is 0.00005 percent of their population. To compare that to the United States population, the impact in China as of yesterday would be the equivalent to less than 20,000 people out of 330,000,000 being infected. Why are the markets in panic over these numbers? Influenza, which strikes every year infects far more (and kills far more) than Covid 19 ever will, but yet the Market does not flux 10% in two days when flu breaks out.
"It's not about numbers. It's about Donald Trump!"
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(02-27-2020, 06:01 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]The numbers just don't support this panic we are seeing...
More people are stricken by and die from the Flu each year than Covid 19 or any of the past viral outbreaks. China is a nation of around a billion people. The rate of infection based upon reports is 0.00005 percent of their population. To compare that to the United States population, the impact in China as of yesterday would be the equivalent to less than 20,000 people out of 330,000,000 being infected. Why are the markets in panic over these numbers? Influenza, which strikes every year infects far more (and kills far more) than Covid 19 ever will, but yet the Market does not flux 10% in two days when flu breaks out.
The big thing is that not only the U.S., but many countries depend on product from China. It's not just the cheap toys, tools or other products that come from there it's also the parts and materials that come from there. Did you know that ingredients and drugs for medications also come from China? Their means of production have pretty much been halted as well as imports/exports.
Companies are affected ranging from clothing stores to auto parts to farm equipment to pharmaceuticals... you get the idea. It's going to hurt the bottom line of many companies and in turn be reflected in the stock market.
The biggest threat and problem from the disease is not what it does to humans, it's what it does to the world economy.
People will be complacent until they can't buy parts to fix their toilet. Then you'll see some action...or more likely, smell it.
(02-27-2020, 06:40 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]People will be complacent until they can't buy parts to fix their toilet. Then you'll see some action...or more likely, smell it.
You describe a socialist society... what the leader of the democrat party stands for. How anyone can back someone that praises Fidel Castro is beyond me. If crazy Bernie is still somewhat relevant in the democrat primary after Super Tuesday he still won't win. He's lost South Florida and pretty much every Cuban family there. Florida will turn from "swing state" to "red state".
What amazes me and is sad is how someone that identifies as a socialist (really communist) gets so much support. The lemmings on the left have Cuba and Venezuela as clear examples of what this guy (Sanders) and Pocahontas want to turn this country in to. The lemmings on the left are fine with taking what is earned from hard working people and giving it to people that haven't done anything. The result is what Venezuela is today. A powerful dictator that refuses to step down and the country in extreme poverty.
The democrat party is done. The only candidate that could/would appeal to center or center/right people like me they shut down and edged out (Tulsi Gabbard). The only "moderates" left are a old senile fool (Joe Biden) and a gay inexperienced mayor from a small town around the size of Palatka (Buttigeg). The DNC is trying their hardest to put one of the two baffoons from their caucus up there (either Biden or Bloomberg) and both are failures. They are being beaten by 2 communists (Warren and Sanders) and there is nothing that the DNC can do about it.
With that being said, I predict that it's going to come down to a brokered convention and one of the two "chosen ones" (Biden or Bloomberg) is going to get the nod. Any way that you look at it, President Trump will win in a landslide.
Good opportunity to rethink our supply chain and maybe start moving it to places that don't actually hate us
(02-27-2020, 09:28 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Good opportunity to rethink our supply chain and maybe start moving it to places that don't actually hate us
Bingo.
Warren and Bernie don't have much in common. They're both all-in for national health insurance, but Warren isn't praising dictators or Communists. Other than healthcare, Warren sincerely believes that competition will do more good than government control. Her whole thing is to break up companies that are "too big to fail" and expose price-fixing schemes. Bernie is not likely to put effort into things like that.
(02-27-2020, 06:17 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (02-27-2020, 06:01 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]The numbers just don't support this panic we are seeing...
More people are stricken by and die from the Flu each year than Covid 19 or any of the past viral outbreaks. China is a nation of around a billion people. The rate of infection based upon reports is 0.00005 percent of their population. To compare that to the United States population, the impact in China as of yesterday would be the equivalent to less than 20,000 people out of 330,000,000 being infected. Why are the markets in panic over these numbers? Influenza, which strikes every year infects far more (and kills far more) than Covid 19 ever will, but yet the Market does not flux 10% in two days when flu breaks out.
"It's not about numbers. It's about Donald Trump!"
Careful there, Mikesez will report you for posting his picture.
(02-27-2020, 10:09 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (02-27-2020, 10:04 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]While everyone agrees there will be more infections in the U.S., as long as it’s contained and traceable there will be little worry.
What troubles me is that given the porosity of our borders, someone will emerge as infected who has had untraceable contact with a wide array of potential hosts. If a school child becomes infected the panic button will be pushed through the wall.
This is not a border security/"build the wall" issue, and any attempt to make it a push for wall funding while the CDC staff and funding remain slashed--you know, the guys actually tasked with curing the damn thing--will make me piss myself laughing while I decide that maybe it's worth my time to vote in the Democratic primary after all.
The CDC funding does not "remain slashed." You are reading the lies of the Left. It's true that Trump asked for cuts, but he did not get them. The CDC funding increased in the last budget.
I agree with a few others that there will no doubt be panic and people will freak out but that's all there is to see here. People's reactions are the far bigger threat than "insert name of virus here". No one learned anything from the swine flu, bird flu, ebola, H1N1, zika, etc. and this is coming from someone who once bought into the swine flu and bird flu way back when. Propaganda is a hell of a drug and mix it with fear mongering and this is what you get. Whether it's an attempt to hurt the economy or make Trump look bad who knows. Can I get dibs on naming the next one though? I'd like to call it the chicken little flu.
Man, I got swine flu BAD. This is not to undermine your point, just thought id share. Pretty sure I came close to dying.