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(12-26-2021, 07:25 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Milk and Benadryl…interesting.


https://news.yahoo.com/early-stage-resea...25317.html
(12-26-2021, 07:37 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-26-2021, 07:25 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Milk and Benadryl…interesting.


https://news.yahoo.com/early-stage-resea...25317.html

They cautioned against using these 2 over the counter drugs until Pfizer can secure a patent and lobby to make Benedryl a prescription only drug and ban doctors from prescribing it for COVID.
(12-26-2021, 07:43 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-26-2021, 07:37 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]They cautioned against using these 2 over the counter drugs until Pfizer can secure a patent and lobby to make Benedryl a prescription only drug and ban doctors from prescribing it for COVID.

The hell with that. I guess I better stock up. I don't care about using it for Covid, I need it for allergies. And banning doctors from prescribing it is bs. Police state much?
It's really any allergy medication that you are assumed to be a drug dealer if you buy.

The milk part I think has to be sourced from a cow and not a supermarket. By the time it gets to the store, all the good stuff is removed.

FDA is already on top of keeping you safe from all the harmful stuff that keeps you safe.

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Yet another independent study confirms over 150K Americans killed by the COVID vaccines


https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/yet-a...y-confirms
(12-27-2021, 12:55 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]Yet another independent study confirms over 150K Americans killed by the COVID vaccines


https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/yet-a...y-confirms

Yet another study based on Rose and Crawford's flawed analysis of "underreporting" in VAERS data.
(12-27-2021, 02:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 12:55 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]Yet another independent study confirms over 150K Americans killed by the COVID vaccines


https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/yet-a...y-confirms

Yet another study based on Rose and Crawford's flawed analysis of "underreporting" in VAERS data.

Flawed by who's standards? And what proof is there specifically that the study is "flawed".. Please enlighten me..
Slow Joe just wanted the white flag. Worst president on our nation's history.
(12-27-2021, 12:55 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]Yet another independent study confirms over 150K Americans killed by the COVID vaccines


https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/yet-a...y-confirms

So let me get this right

COVID kills 2% of people who get it = no big deal

Vaccine kills 0.07% of people who receive it = BIG DEAL
(12-27-2021, 03:28 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 02:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Yet another study based on Rose and Crawford's flawed analysis of "underreporting" in VAERS data.

Flawed by who's standards? And what proof is there specifically that the study is "flawed".. Please enlighten me..

VAERS data is not for statistical analysis. This is well known and has been forever. Every one of these people who present a "study" based on that data is presenting an interpretation of bad data, no matter how statistically sound they attempt to make their interpretation. That's the end of it really, nothing more is needed. But if you really want to know you can just read McGill's primer on the anti-vaxxers' scare tactic. 

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-...are-tactic
(12-27-2021, 04:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 03:28 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]Flawed by who's standards? And what proof is there specifically that the study is "flawed".. Please enlighten me..

VAERS data is not for statistical analysis. This is well known and has been forever. Every one of these people who present a "study" based on that data is presenting an interpretation of bad data, no matter how statistically sound they attempt to make their interpretation. That's the end of it really, nothing more is needed. But if you really want to know you can just read McGill's primer on the anti-vaxxers' scare tactic. 

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-...are-tactic

 LOL... so you admit, they are putting bad data out there regarding vaccine deaths? Who are we to believe? The study appears to be based off of sound principals. Not to mention, there's no billion dollar incentive to lie to anyone.

(12-27-2021, 04:03 PM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 12:55 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]Yet another independent study confirms over 150K Americans killed by the COVID vaccines


https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/yet-a...y-confirms

So let me get this right

COVID kills 2% of people who get it = no big deal

Vaccine kills 0.07% of people who receive it = BIG DEAL

2%? bwhahahaahaha... you mean man in motorcycle accident dies of covid? Or woman dies of covid after being stabbed 30 times from spouse. Ya... I don't buy any of those numbers either.
(12-27-2021, 04:26 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 04:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]VAERS data is not for statistical analysis. This is well known and has been forever. Every one of these people who present a "study" based on that data is presenting an interpretation of bad data, no matter how statistically sound they attempt to make their interpretation. That's the end of it really, nothing more is needed. But if you really want to know you can just read McGill's primer on the anti-vaxxers' scare tactic. 

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-...are-tactic

 LOL... so you admit, they are putting bad data out there regarding vaccine deaths? Who are we to believe? The study appears to be based off of sound principals. Not to mention, there's no billion dollar incentive to lie to anyone.

(12-27-2021, 04:03 PM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]So let me get this right

COVID kills 2% of people who get it = no big deal

Vaccine kills 0.07% of people who receive it = BIG DEAL

2%? bwhahahaahaha... you mean man in motorcycle accident dies of covid? Or woman dies of covid after being stabbed 30 times from spouse. Ya... I don't buy any of those numbers either.

It's a reporting system not a stats machine; anyone can (and does) use VAERS for any reason. It doesn't matter how sound the principles are if the source data lacks integrity, but you know this, you just like playing Mr. Obstinate. And if you think the anti-vaxxers aren't doing this to make bank then I've got a bit of oceanfront property in Kansas you might be interested in.
(12-27-2021, 04:26 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 04:03 PM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]So let me get this right

COVID kills 2% of people who get it = no big deal

Vaccine kills 0.07% of people who receive it = BIG DEAL

2%? bwhahahaahaha... you mean man in motorcycle accident dies of covid? Or woman dies of covid after being stabbed 30 times from spouse. Ya... I don't buy any of those numbers either.

So if you don't buy those vaccine death numbers, then why post a link to an article with phony numbers? You don't need to answer. It's rhetorical as we all know the answer.
(12-27-2021, 04:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 03:28 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]Flawed by who's standards? And what proof is there specifically that the study is "flawed".. Please enlighten me..

VAERS data is not for statistical analysis. This is well known and has been forever. Every one of these people who present a "study" based on that data is presenting an interpretation of bad data, no matter how statistically sound they attempt to make their interpretation. That's the end of it really, nothing more is needed. But if you really want to know you can just read McGill's primer on the anti-vaxxers' scare tactic. 

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-...are-tactic

They don't use vaers, they use the vfr produced by the CDC and it shows the numbers are at least 20 times below where they should be in vaers. They also show the vfr from the CDC is too low. They have also looked at the excess deaths for all causes and it shows 200,000 or so deaths caused by the vaccine.

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(12-27-2021, 05:08 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 04:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]VAERS data is not for statistical analysis. This is well known and has been forever. Every one of these people who present a "study" based on that data is presenting an interpretation of bad data, no matter how statistically sound they attempt to make their interpretation. That's the end of it really, nothing more is needed. But if you really want to know you can just read McGill's primer on the anti-vaxxers' scare tactic. 

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-...are-tactic

They don't use vaers, they use the vfr produced by the CDC and it shows the numbers are at least 20 times below where they should be in vaers. They also show the vfr from the CDC is too low. They have also looked at the excess deaths for all causes and it shows 200,000 or so deaths caused by the vaccine.

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(12-27-2021, 01:12 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 12:14 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]It's what I take at night when my Claritin-D has worn off and my eyes start itching. It does help with the sleep too.


Who cares what it's called if it works? There are alternative remedies I use often that would be considered 'old wives tales' by you but they work for me and I don't have to see or pay a doctor for it.

And yet whiskey on the gums doesn't in fact work and accidently using too much (like there's actually a dosage in the tale) causes hypoglycemia in infants and toddlers.

That's why I said if it works. Some stuff works, some stuff doesn't. Alternative medicine isn't for everyone. Traditional medicine isn't for everyone either. Folks should be able to choose what works for them without getting berated by those who disagree with their choices. 

I've been screwed over several times in the last five years by traditional medical doctors and specialists who supposedly knew what they're talking about and I'm pretty pissed about it because I am affected daily by their lack of care but you don't hear me telling people to not seek medical treatment.
A Little Humor to lighten the mood here.....

I’m so freaking pissed right now. I hope these people get caught!
Dr AnthonyFauci Fanpage doesn't deserve this! He gets up every day and works his butt off for the things he has. I hope he gets everything back!
Someone broke into his vehicle and stole a bunch of his personal stuff. If anyone comes across any garage sales or Facebook posts selling any of it or is offered any of the listed items, please let us know.
A $2500 reward has been offered for information leading to the recovery of these items.
Items stolen:
1 x large tube of strawberry flavored lube
1 x signed photo of a shirtless Justin Bieber
1 x bag of cable ties
1 x roll of gaffer tape
2 x pink fur lined handcuffs
1 x Paddle
1 x deluxe inflatable sheep
1 x I love Joe Biden T-shirt (autographed by Joe)
1x pink mid-thigh skirt
1x of pair of black hooker boots size 14 in Women's

Come on People, we can't be serious all of the time......
(12-27-2021, 05:08 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 04:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]VAERS data is not for statistical analysis. This is well known and has been forever. Every one of these people who present a "study" based on that data is presenting an interpretation of bad data, no matter how statistically sound they attempt to make their interpretation. That's the end of it really, nothing more is needed. But if you really want to know you can just read McGill's primer on the anti-vaxxers' scare tactic. 

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-...are-tactic

They don't use vaers, they use the vfr produced by the CDC and it shows the numbers are at least 20 times below where they should be in vaers. They also show the vfr from the CDC is too low. They have also looked at the excess deaths for all causes and it shows 200,000 or so deaths caused by the vaccine.

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Uh huh.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/d...ia-reports
(12-27-2021, 04:35 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 04:26 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ] LOL... so you admit, they are putting bad data out there regarding vaccine deaths? Who are we to believe? The study appears to be based off of sound principals. Not to mention, there's no billion dollar incentive to lie to anyone.


2%? bwhahahaahaha... you mean man in motorcycle accident dies of covid? Or woman dies of covid after being stabbed 30 times from spouse. Ya... I don't buy any of those numbers either.

It's a reporting system not a stats machine; anyone can (and does) use VAERS for any reason. It doesn't matter how sound the principles are if the source data lacks integrity, but you know this, you just like playing Mr. Obstinate. And if you think the anti-vaxxers aren't doing this to make bank then I've got a bit of oceanfront property in Kansas you might be interested in.

Not real sure how anti-vaxxers are 'making bank' by not wanting a vaccine to be forced upon them. It's a whole lot easier to understand how Pharma is making huge bank via vaccine mandates. Please elaborate.
(12-27-2021, 11:19 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 05:08 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]They don't use vaers, they use the vfr produced by the CDC and it shows the numbers are at least 20 times below where they should be in vaers. They also show the vfr from the CDC is too low. They have also looked at the excess deaths for all causes and it shows 200,000 or so deaths caused by the vaccine.

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Uh huh.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/d...ia-reports
Read the study yourself, they aren't making up the data. The problem is no one that sees the patients firsthand will talk because they don't want to give up their nice jobs making a lot of money.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication...ality_risk

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(12-28-2021, 02:10 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-27-2021, 11:19 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Uh huh.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/d...ia-reports
Read the study yourself, they aren't making up the data. The problem is no one that sees the patients firsthand will talk because they don't want to give up their nice jobs making a lot of money.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication...ality_risk

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I did and Morris addressed the concerns about their methodology in the link I posted.
LOL, Fauci Video, see this before its removed.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/ho...isappears/
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