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This is the guy that the "trust the science" Bro's champion as well. What a [BLEEP] joke...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7ysO64t0...dWNlNGIwcA==

Should have every supporter of his go door to door and apologize to anybody who was injured or lost somebody due to this [BLEEP] poison they pimped out.

Fauci should have to face the public and physically figure out a way to kiss his own [BLEEP] before apologizing.

If he can't do that? Jail. Straight to jail.

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(06-04-2024, 10:56 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7ysO64t0...dWNlNGIwcA==

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This is the guy that the "trust the science" Bro's champion as well. What a [BLEEP] joke...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7ysO64t0...dWNlNGIwcA==

Should have every supporter of his go door to door and apologize to anybody who was injured or lost somebody due to this [BLEEP] poison they pimped out.

Fauci should have to face the public and physically figure out a way to kiss his own [BLEEP] before apologizing.

If he can't do that? Jail. Straight to jail.

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I remember watching that game he attended.. It was a Nationals game. That was all the proof I needed to call him a fraud. That pissed off a lot of people..

Rules for thee but not for me..

[BLEEP] that piece of [BLEEP]..
(06-04-2024, 10:56 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7ysO64t0...dWNlNGIwcA==

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This is the guy that the "trust the science" Bro's champion as well. What a [BLEEP] joke...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7ysO64t0...dWNlNGIwcA==

Should have every supporter of his go door to door and apologize to anybody who was injured or lost somebody due to this [BLEEP] poison they pimped out.

Fauci should have to face the public and physically figure out a way to kiss his own [BLEEP] before apologizing.

If he can't do that? Jail. Straight to jail.

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I wish my representative represented me like this in Washington.  We need more of this.
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Someone seems to be missing in here lately.
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(06-06-2024, 08:48 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Someone seems to be missing in here lately.

Jabbing at me I see. No reason for me to object, you guys made up your minds from the sound bites.
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Just to update a previous argument on here that I'm sure you guys ignored, golfer Grayson Murray did in fact commit suicide. A tragic ending for a talented but troubled young man. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/golf/a...orida.html

Likewise, to update the Billy Price retirement story, I found a study from 2022 that mentions a case of "unprovoked Submassive Saddle Clot Embolism" that is likely attributable to the Pfizer vaccine. The patient in the case study is a 67 year old with no history of cardiac issues who presented with SBE two days after his second shot. Fortunately the patient recovered with blood thinners but there aren't many other case studies around this specific condition in that time frame. It's possible the Price's issue (same diagnosis) could be similarly related though we don't actually know his vaccine status nor the timing. However...there are a couple studies of that diagnosis related to actual Covid infection from 2020 and 2021 prior to the vaccine being available, so it's also possible that Price is suffering some effect from catching the virus.
(06-07-2024, 07:56 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Just to update a previous argument on here that I'm sure you guys ignored, golfer Grayson Murray did in fact commit suicide. A tragic ending for a talented but troubled young man. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/golf/a...orida.html

Likewise, to update the Billy Price retirement story, I found a study from 2022 that mentions a case of "unprovoked Submassive Saddle Clot Embolism" that is likely attributable to the Pfizer vaccine. The patient in the case study is a 67 year old with no history of cardiac issues who presented with SBE two days after his second shot. Fortunately the patient recovered with blood thinners but there aren't many other case studies around this specific condition in that time frame. It's possible the Price's issue (same diagnosis) could be similarly related though we don't actually know his vaccine status nor the timing. However...there are a couple studies of that diagnosis related to actual Covid infection from 2020 and 2021 prior to the vaccine being available, so it's also possible that Price is suffering some effect from catching the virus.

Would it be possible to avoid complications with the vaccine if they lowered the dosage amount per round and spread out the frequency of the boosters or does it have to remain static as the protocol calls for today? 

I know it's not going to be 100% guaranteed that nothing can go wrong. Life is a roll of the dice. We all have to make decisions and so forth. However, I am just curious if these pharmaceutical companies are taking these reports seriously and using it to fix or adjust their products. 

People trusted them four years ago, these reports are now creating even bigger rifts and concerns with those who did follow the protocol and for those who ignored it from the very beginning. I only bring this up, because, it seems like we're due for another viral outbreak of some nature. 

Possibly the Bird Flu again if reports and predictions are accurate. With the Bird Flu, we already have practice and vaccines in place for that today as it stands, correct? So, adequate studies and trials should be available to the public to make better educated decisions, correct?
(06-07-2024, 08:08 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2024, 07:56 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Just to update a previous argument on here that I'm sure you guys ignored, golfer Grayson Murray did in fact commit suicide. A tragic ending for a talented but troubled young man. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/golf/a...orida.html

Likewise, to update the Billy Price retirement story, I found a study from 2022 that mentions a case of "unprovoked Submassive Saddle Clot Embolism" that is likely attributable to the Pfizer vaccine. The patient in the case study is a 67 year old with no history of cardiac issues who presented with SBE two days after his second shot. Fortunately the patient recovered with blood thinners but there aren't many other case studies around this specific condition in that time frame. It's possible the Price's issue (same diagnosis) could be similarly related though we don't actually know his vaccine status nor the timing. However...there are a couple studies of that diagnosis related to actual Covid infection from 2020 and 2021 prior to the vaccine being available, so it's also possible that Price is suffering some effect from catching the virus.

Would it be possible to avoid complications with the vaccine if they lowered the dosage amount per round and spread out the frequency of the boosters or does it have to remain static as the protocol calls for today? 

I know it's not going to be 100% guaranteed that nothing can go wrong. Life is a roll of the dice. We all have to make decisions and so forth. However, I am just curious if these pharmaceutical companies are taking these reports seriously and using it to fix or adjust their products. 

People trusted them four years ago, these reports are now creating even bigger rifts and concerns with those who did follow the protocol and for those who ignored it from the very beginning. I only bring this up, because, it seems like we're due for another viral outbreak of some nature. 

Possibly the Bird Flu again if reports and predictions are accurate. With the Bird Flu, we already have practice and vaccines in place for that today as it stands, correct? So, adequate studies and trials should be available to the public to make better educated decisions, correct?

I don't know much about the dosing schedule, so I have no idea if different volumes or timeframes would matter either way. I know that the manufacturers are constantly working on the vaccines much like they work on the annual flu vaccine. Vaccines are never really a finished product, they keep reworking and revising them to improve efficacy and efficiency. We still get new version of the Polio vaccine pretty regularly even though we've had a vaccine for it for decades. I think you vastly overestimate the general public's feelings about these vaccines, you are victimized by your perspective which is mostly limited to the extremes of the American political landscape. Billions of doses given around the world and still nothing major has come from any of the various brands or versions, regardless of how certain blowhorns fixate on statistically miniscule cases. And you're right, we are always on the verge of an outbreak, Nature is brutal.
(06-07-2024, 10:00 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2024, 08:08 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Would it be possible to avoid complications with the vaccine if they lowered the dosage amount per round and spread out the frequency of the boosters or does it have to remain static as the protocol calls for today? 

I know it's not going to be 100% guaranteed that nothing can go wrong. Life is a roll of the dice. We all have to make decisions and so forth. However, I am just curious if these pharmaceutical companies are taking these reports seriously and using it to fix or adjust their products. 

People trusted them four years ago, these reports are now creating even bigger rifts and concerns with those who did follow the protocol and for those who ignored it from the very beginning. I only bring this up, because, it seems like we're due for another viral outbreak of some nature. 

Possibly the Bird Flu again if reports and predictions are accurate. With the Bird Flu, we already have practice and vaccines in place for that today as it stands, correct? So, adequate studies and trials should be available to the public to make better educated decisions, correct?

I don't know much about the dosing schedule, so I have no idea if different volumes or timeframes would matter either way. I know that the manufacturers are constantly working on the vaccines much like they work on the annual flu vaccine. Vaccines are never really a finished product, they keep reworking and revising them to improve efficacy and efficiency. We still get new version of the Polio vaccine pretty regularly even though we've had a vaccine for it for decades. I think you vastly overestimate the general public's feelings about these vaccines, you are victimized by your perspective which is mostly limited to the extremes of the American political landscape. Billions of doses given around the world and still nothing major has come from any of the various brands or versions, regardless of how certain blowhorns fixate on statistically miniscule cases. And you're right, we are always on the verge of an outbreak, Nature is brutal.

I think the general public has an interesting landscape when it comes to the Covid vaccine. Especially now. You're either in the:

A. Never vaxed camp. I told you so all along stance. 
B. Been vaxed. Have had no issues with it nor the boosters. Therefore, not my problem.
C. Have been vaxed. Felt complications, lost someone or something to that effect. Now pissed off with the reports coming out.
D. Silent majority that could be in either camp but just don't want to get belittled or beaten into the ground verbally for speaking up. 

We had decisions to make four years ago when our son was born. He's up to date and current with Doctor recommendations vax wise. It's not like all of us have a problem with trusting the science. It was, like most things in life, the timing of it all. 

It was mostly new to the market, there was widespread panic with widespread money to be had, the odds of the products having issues were there probability wise and now we're seeing some reports in the mainstream media to support it. Fauci's soundbites have done him absolutely no favors and the other side of this whole problem, is that, have we agreed or come to a consensus on the true origin and nature of Covid?

Conspiracy or not. It did come from Wuhan. It did come from China. It came at a very pivotal moment politically and it had and continues to have a lasting effect on society and various economies as a whole. So, that was always the interesting part to it for me. 

How to create a vaccine or solution for something that may or may not have been man made? How do you study, practice or prepare for something like that? If they were able to produce it in a lab, add manipulating factors to it, to where it did seem to morph rather consistently, etc. 

As you said, Nature is brutal. However, so is power and greed. And that's been in the equation with humanity now forever, but, now more than ever with advancements being made in various fields and tensions heating up, globally, in a literal and geopolitical sense.
(06-08-2024, 07:58 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/toobaffled/status/17...Guynw&s=19

"Yes Drew, you've had diagnosed metastatic colon cancer for a decade and you're approaching 60 years of age. It's going to kill you soon, but certain people will try to pin it on something entirely different to satisfy their internal political narrative."

I'm sure that doctor said something like that, yes?
(06-07-2024, 11:47 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2024, 10:00 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know much about the dosing schedule, so I have no idea if different volumes or timeframes would matter either way. I know that the manufacturers are constantly working on the vaccines much like they work on the annual flu vaccine. Vaccines are never really a finished product, they keep reworking and revising them to improve efficacy and efficiency. We still get new version of the Polio vaccine pretty regularly even though we've had a vaccine for it for decades. I think you vastly overestimate the general public's feelings about these vaccines, you are victimized by your perspective which is mostly limited to the extremes of the American political landscape. Billions of doses given around the world and still nothing major has come from any of the various brands or versions, regardless of how certain blowhorns fixate on statistically miniscule cases. And you're right, we are always on the verge of an outbreak, Nature is brutal.

I think the general public has an interesting landscape when it comes to the Covid vaccine. Especially now. You're either in the:

A. Never vaxed camp. I told you so all along stance. 
B. Been vaxed. Have had no issues with it nor the boosters. Therefore, not my problem.
C. Have been vaxed. Felt complications, lost someone or something to that effect. Now pissed off with the reports coming out.
D. Silent majority that could be in either camp but just don't want to get belittled or beaten into the ground verbally for speaking up. 

We had decisions to make four years ago when our son was born. He's up to date and current with Doctor recommendations vax wise. It's not like all of us have a problem with trusting the science. It was, like most things in life, the timing of it all. 

It was mostly new to the market, there was widespread panic with widespread money to be had, the odds of the products having issues were there probability wise and now we're seeing some reports in the mainstream media to support it. Fauci's soundbites have done him absolutely no favors and the other side of this whole problem, is that, have we agreed or come to a consensus on the true origin and nature of Covid?

Conspiracy or not. It did come from Wuhan. It did come from China. It came at a very pivotal moment politically and it had and continues to have a lasting effect on society and various economies as a whole. So, that was always the interesting part to it for me. 

How to create a vaccine or solution for something that may or may not have been man made? How do you study, practice or prepare for something like that? If they were able to produce it in a lab, add manipulating factors to it, to where it did seem to morph rather consistently, etc. 

As you said, Nature is brutal. However, so is power and greed. And that's been in the equation with humanity now forever, but, now more than ever with advancements being made in various fields and tensions heating up, globally, in a literal and geopolitical sense.

I'd add one more group to your list there.

E. The 7,000,000 folks that died from Covid

Regarding the blue, it is my understanding that the virus is suspected of having only been manipulated rather than manufactured - and consistent mutation is common amongst nearly all viruses whether from a lab or otherwise. Some are simply more effective in their mutations than others. 

The vaccine always had a head start in development because COVID-19 was a variant of something previously well studied along with its corresponding antigens.
(06-08-2024, 01:55 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2024, 11:47 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I think the general public has an interesting landscape when it comes to the Covid vaccine. Especially now. You're either in the:

A. Never vaxed camp. I told you so all along stance. 
B. Been vaxed. Have had no issues with it nor the boosters. Therefore, not my problem.
C. Have been vaxed. Felt complications, lost someone or something to that effect. Now pissed off with the reports coming out.
D. Silent majority that could be in either camp but just don't want to get belittled or beaten into the ground verbally for speaking up. 

We had decisions to make four years ago when our son was born. He's up to date and current with Doctor recommendations vax wise. It's not like all of us have a problem with trusting the science. It was, like most things in life, the timing of it all. 

It was mostly new to the market, there was widespread panic with widespread money to be had, the odds of the products having issues were there probability wise and now we're seeing some reports in the mainstream media to support it. Fauci's soundbites have done him absolutely no favors and the other side of this whole problem, is that, have we agreed or come to a consensus on the true origin and nature of Covid?

Conspiracy or not. It did come from Wuhan. It did come from China. It came at a very pivotal moment politically and it had and continues to have a lasting effect on society and various economies as a whole. So, that was always the interesting part to it for me. 

How to create a vaccine or solution for something that may or may not have been man made? How do you study, practice or prepare for something like that? If they were able to produce it in a lab, add manipulating factors to it, to where it did seem to morph rather consistently, etc. 

As you said, Nature is brutal. However, so is power and greed. And that's been in the equation with humanity now forever, but, now more than ever with advancements being made in various fields and tensions heating up, globally, in a literal and geopolitical sense.

I'd add one more group to your list there.

E. The 7,000,000 folks that died from Covid

Regarding the blue, it is my understanding that the virus is suspected of having only been manipulated rather than manufactured - and consistent mutation is common amongst nearly all viruses whether from a lab or otherwise. Some are simply more effective in their mutations than others. 

The vaccine always had a head start in development because COVID-19 was a variant of something previously well studied along with its corresponding antigens.

The problem with that number of 7M is that it gets hotly contested due to how it was considered as an indicator of death. "Died in a car accident, had covid though" +1 Covid. That was a running gag for a little while. Plus previously known and documented health conditions making you susceptible to it, etc. 

Honest question though, do you not find the timing of it all breaking loose just a little odd? Between the policies, the economy, the stances that were being taken, along with the John Hopkins and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation having a mock trial run of this very exact scenario occurring just a few months prior to it actually happening?
(06-08-2024, 02:18 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2024, 01:55 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I'd add one more group to your list there.

E. The 7,000,000 folks that died from Covid

Regarding the blue, it is my understanding that the virus is suspected of having only been manipulated rather than manufactured - and consistent mutation is common amongst nearly all viruses whether from a lab or otherwise. Some are simply more effective in their mutations than others. 

The vaccine always had a head start in development because COVID-19 was a variant of something previously well studied along with its corresponding antigens.

The problem with that number of 7M is that it gets hotly contested due to how it was considered as an indicator of death. "Died in a car accident, had covid though" +1 Covid. That was a running gag for a little while. Plus previously known and documented health conditions making you susceptible to it, etc. 

Honest question though, do you not find the timing of it all breaking loose just a little odd?
Between the policies, the economy, the stances that were being taken, along with the John Hopkins and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation having a mock trial run of this very exact scenario occurring just a few months prior to it actually happening?

Not at all. 

SARS has been studied since 2002 and coronaviruses since 1965. 

Epidemiologists have speculated about potential for pandemic for some time.  If you analyzed geo-politics at the time of any historical virus/disease outbreak you could probably find coinciding dynamics that would allow folks to speculate that they were nefariously initiated. 

I find any such scenario in this case to be coincidental, not correlated. 

If COVID-19 was released intentionally by the Chinese, what do you think the goal was?
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