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(02-02-2022, 11:11 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]Why is that being "busted"? I'm not hiding anything. In fact, I was enjoying becoming familiar with the Jags.

Ok, Darrell. You can stop now. Lol

(01-31-2022, 12:40 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]Uh.... he's in the Superbowl now.

He made the right choice regardless of how he went about it. This place is a dumpster fire. It stinks like Baltimore (if you've ever been there you know)

(02-02-2022, 10:50 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]hahahah, Eddie Farah with a nice one liner...

https://twitter.com/RealEddieFarah/statu...3108185105

Leftwich probably has him on retainer in case he want to go all Flores.

Anyway, this coaching/gm search has been embarrassing. There is zero reason for baalke to have anything to do with this team and I don't know how or why shad is the only one that doesn't see that. Having baalke sit in on interviews and asking the interviewing coach if they would work with them? Just pathetic.

(02-02-2022, 11:11 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]Why is that being "busted"? I'm not hiding anything. In fact, I was enjoying becoming familiar with the Jags.

FWIW, I don't think your dad is necessarily a *terrible* coach, I'm sure he tries hard. He's just not someone we Jag fans see as having the ability to lead us out of this mess we're in at present.

(02-02-2022, 10:34 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-02-2022, 10:30 AM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]Wait, you're calling that dumb and you're the only one here pushing Bevell?

I think you need to re-evaluate what is dumb.

I have a hunch there are more who wish to remain silent. After all, you only have about 20 posters on here who regularly contribute, so my token support for Bevell isn't that out of skew.

Bevell seems like a great guy, very upbeat without being a rah rah guy, and he would certainly have a calming effect on any team he coaches. But he's an average OC at best, and that's with talented players. Legion of Boom was the reason that Seattle team did as well as they did.

(02-02-2022, 11:20 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-02-2022, 11:11 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]Why is that being "busted"? I'm not hiding anything. In fact, I was enjoying becoming familiar with the Jags.

FWIW, I don't think your dad is necessarily a *terrible* coach, I'm sure he tries hard. He's just not someone we Jag fans see as having the ability to lead us out of this mess we're in at present.

I understand that. He more or less has the underdog role unfortunately due to his association with Meyer, but I truly think he has what it takes to make the Jags relevant again.
As I've said before, players everywhere he went had the utmost respect for him. Russell Wilson and Matt Stafford both expressed gratitude to Bevell. Trevor likes him. Not sure what more you need.

(02-02-2022, 11:26 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-02-2022, 11:20 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]FWIW, I don't think your dad is necessarily a *terrible* coach, I'm sure he tries hard. He's just not someone we Jag fans see as having the ability to lead us out of this mess we're in at present.

I understand that. He more or less has the underdog role unfortunately due to his association with Meyer, but I truly think he has what it takes to make the Jags relevant again.
As I've said before, players everywhere he went had the utmost respect for him. Russell Wilson and Matt Stafford both expressed gratitude to Bevell. Trevor likes him. Not sure what more you need.

Now we know you’re someone close to him, can you at least tell us what you’re hearing regarding the search

(02-02-2022, 11:24 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-02-2022, 10:34 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]I have a hunch there are more who wish to remain silent. After all, you only have about 20 posters on here who regularly contribute, so my token support for Bevell isn't that out of skew.

Bevell seems like a great guy, very upbeat without being a rah rah guy, and he would certainly have a calming effect on any team he coaches.  But he's an average OC at best, and that's with talented players.  Legion of Boom was the reason that Seattle team did as well as they did.

The Legion was awesome, you are correct. But you needed an offense, as well, to get to consecutive Super Bowls, and Bevell was instrumental in facilitating that. He's also the one who more or less brought Wilson in to the Seahawks fold with his ties to Wisconsin.

(02-02-2022, 11:30 AM)Craigukjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-02-2022, 11:26 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]I understand that. He more or less has the underdog role unfortunately due to his association with Meyer, but I truly think he has what it takes to make the Jags relevant again.
As I've said before, players everywhere he went had the utmost respect for him. Russell Wilson and Matt Stafford both expressed gratitude to Bevell. Trevor likes him. Not sure what more you need.

Now we know you’re someone close to him, can you at least tell us what you’re hearing regarding the search

I opined earlier that after the last debacle, Shad is just trying hard to get it right this time for the fanbase. He's weighing all options even at the risk of losing one or two candidates due to the delay.
Realistically, I think he targets O'Connell after the Super Bowl, with the chief competition being the Dolphins. Sounds like O'Connell really wants to work with Trevor. I don't think an extra couple weeks hurts too much in the grand scheme of things if it pays off.
That's looking at the picture realistically. From my heart, I think taking a chance on Bevell would ultimately be the most rewarding for all involved.

By all accounts, Bevell is a very good person, and very well liked and respected. He definitely belongs in the NFL. The problem is that we have a QB entering his second year, some other pieces on offense and defense, and the rest is a dumpster fire. He’s in over his head here as an OC, much less a HC. If it actually was Bevell/Balkee, Baalke would eat him alive, and Bevell would be the scapegoat for every thing that could and did go wrong.

If you really like Bevell, you possibly know him on some sort of personal level, and you want nothing but the best for him, you should be hoping for a plane ticket out of this mess and a job on a good coaching staff with a good organization where he can resurrect his career instead of staying here and getting buried once and for all.

(02-02-2022, 11:40 AM)tomfin2022 Wrote: [ -> ]By all accounts, Bevell is a very good person, and very well liked and respected.  He definitely belongs in the NFL.  The problem is that we have a QB entering his second year, some other pieces on offense and defense, and the rest is a dumpster fire.  He’s in over his head here as an OC, much less a HC.  If it actually was Bevell/Balkee, Baalke would eat him alive, and Bevell would be the scapegoat for every thing that could and did go wrong.

If you really like Bevell, you possibly know him on some sort of personal level, and you want nothing but the best for him, you should be hoping for a plane ticket out of this mess and a job on a good coaching staff with a good organization where he can resurrect his career instead of staying here and getting buried once and for all.

Thanks Tom, but I think Bev has a little tougher skin than you are giving him credit. As far as Baalke, they had to forge some kind of relationship thus far, whether that be filling out a roster due to the covid outbreak before the Patriots game or getting management's input during the Meyer meltdown.
As far as Trevor's tutelage, wow, I don't think he could be in better hands. Just an aside: In every stop he's been at before Duval, Bev has been on the sideline during games. You could always find him sitting next to the QB, whether that be Wilson or Stafford, going over plays on the Surface laptop while that team was on defense. It was a constant learning process. This year, Urban forced him up to the booth, limiting all of those potential learning opportunities.

(02-02-2022, 11:55 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-02-2022, 11:40 AM)tomfin2022 Wrote: [ -> ]By all accounts, Bevell is a very good person, and very well liked and respected.  He definitely belongs in the NFL.  The problem is that we have a QB entering his second year, some other pieces on offense and defense, and the rest is a dumpster fire.  He’s in over his head here as an OC, much less a HC.  If it actually was Bevell/Balkee, Baalke would eat him alive, and Bevell would be the scapegoat for every thing that could and did go wrong.

If you really like Bevell, you possibly know him on some sort of personal level, and you want nothing but the best for him, you should be hoping for a plane ticket out of this mess and a job on a good coaching staff with a good organization where he can resurrect his career instead of staying here and getting buried once and for all.

Thanks Tom, but I think Bev has a little tougher skin than you are giving him credit. As far as Baalke, they had to forge some kind if relationship thus far, whether that be filling out a roster due to the covid outbreak before the Patriots game or getting management's input during the Meyer meltdown.
As far as Trevor's tutelage, wow, I don't think he could be in better hands. Just an aside: In every stop he's been at before Duval, Bev has been on the sideline during games. You could always find him sitting next to the QB, whether that be Wilson or Stafford, going over plays on the Surface laptop while that team was on defense. It was a constant learning process. This year, Urban forced him up to the booth, limiting all of those potential learning opportunities.

I mean, was he also banned from practice?

Bevell is not the worst choice in the world. However, we need to try to find the best choice. He is not that unfortunately for him. He needs to go somewhere else and reestablish a successful track record before he is considered for a head-coaching gig.

(02-02-2022, 11:26 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-02-2022, 11:20 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]FWIW, I don't think your dad is necessarily a *terrible* coach, I'm sure he tries hard. He's just not someone we Jag fans see as having the ability to lead us out of this mess we're in at present.

I understand that. He more or less has the underdog role unfortunately due to his association with Meyer, but I truly think he has what it takes to make the Jags relevant again.
As I've said before, players everywhere he went had the utmost respect for him. Russell Wilson and Matt Stafford both expressed gratitude to Bevell. Trevor likes him. Not sure what more you need.

The fear I have is that by dragging his hind end on this matter, Shad is encouraging players to choose their factions, and if the wrong coach (in their eyes) is hired, we end up back where we started with the players failing to give any respect to the coach in charge of the team. That's plagued us for the end of Marrone's run, Urbz's brief stay, and I do not want to see that again.

I wasn't a big fan of the clowning, but at this point Khan is doing himself no favors.

I hate getting into this kind of stuff and I think Cleatwood mentioned this first, but can you imagine if Shad Khan had gotten wind of the upcoming Flores lawsuit, delayed things and then, BAM!, hires both Leftwich and Wilson on the spot. He would in many ways save the face of the NFL and be looked upon by many as a hero.
Can you imagine???!!!
(For the record, I still want Bevell to get the job.)

(02-02-2022, 12:19 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]I hate getting into this kind of stuff and I think Cleatwood mentioned this first, but can you imagine if Shad Khan had gotten wind of the upcoming Flores lawsuit, delayed things and then, BAM!, hires both Leftwich and Wilson on the spot. He would in many ways save the face of the NFL and be looked upon by many as a hero.
Can you imagine???!!!
(For the record, I still want Bevell to get the job.)

Good thing you are telling us we were starting to wonder... 

Bevell sucks as a Coach and he is not getting this job nor any other opening for HC. He will be lucky to get one as a OC but I doubt he gets one.

If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, then I’m guilty as charged because I have been logging on each morning for the last nine days and hitting refresh throughout the day like a rat hitting a feeder bar thinking that today is the day we get some clarity on where this coaching search is ultimately headed.

Khan could pull the ultimate coup by hiring Flores. That move would create a tidal wave of new Jaguars fans.

(02-02-2022, 12:52 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ]Khan could pull the ultimate coup by hiring Flores. That move would create a tidal wave of new Jaguars fans.

Have you seen what Miami fans think of Flores? No thanks

(02-02-2022, 12:08 PM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]Bevell is not the worst choice in the world. However, we need to try to find the best choice. He is not that unfortunately for him. He needs to go somewhere else and reestablish a successful track record before he is considered for a head-coaching gig.

This was in essence my take when Darrell Bevell was a candidate to become the Lions HC after the 2020 season and the take definitely fits the Jaguars current situation as well. 

When a team comes off a nightmarish season that included a HC change during the season,  a fresh start at the HC position ( and with the GM position ) is in the best interest of the franchise.  In the Jaguars case,  this probably is even that much more pronounced because of the ultra importance of the development of Trevor Lawrence.