(01-12-2022, 04:20 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]How about Spielman?
I don't see him as a head coach.
(01-12-2022, 03:14 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2022, 03:07 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]I've never understood that...
Part of it stems from when he was here and the team offered to send him to a QB camp, on their dime, to help him improve. He turned it down.
People change, I get it, but I always received the impression from him that he was more for himself than the team. Some will argue it is unfounded, and they’re likely right, but that’s what I remember about his time here.
I don't remember the thing about QB camp and I don't see anything on Google...although it's quite possibly buried somewhere.
(01-12-2022, 04:22 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2022, 03:14 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Part of it stems from when he was here and the team offered to send him to a QB camp, on their dime, to help him improve. He turned it down.
People change, I get it, but I always received the impression from him that he was more for himself than the team. Some will argue it is unfounded, and they’re likely right, but that’s what I remember about his time here.
I don't remember the thing about QB camp and I don't see anything on Google...although it's quite possibly buried somewhere.
It was something to do with working on his windup. I think he basically said it was fine and he didn't need to change anything if I remember correctly. It rubbed a lot of people because he was refusing to put in the work to get better and add in his mannerisms and personality and you end up with a person that appears to be lazy and doesn't care much.
(01-12-2022, 04:18 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2022, 04:13 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I question whether he has what it takes to be a HC. It's more than being a film rat and putting a priority on giving game time to players with performance incentives in their contracts.
Which is totally fair.
But calling him “lackadaisical” seems farfetched and you even said it’s unfounded. No reason to bring up something that’s most likely not true.
It's just what I remember my impression was of him at the time.
Regardless, the team is in too precarious of a position (developing Trevor Lawrence and the team around him) to trust it to a first time HC. Maybe Leftwich will turn out to be good, maybe he won't, but it seems too risky for an experiment. I realize all HCs start somewhere, and if we weren't fielding a QB with huge potential at the crux of his development, Leftwich would be more agreeable.
(01-12-2022, 04:33 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2022, 04:22 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]I don't remember the thing about QB camp and I don't see anything on Google...although it's quite possibly buried somewhere.
It was something to do with working on his windup. I think he basically said it was fine and he didn't need to change anything if I remember correctly. It rubbed a lot of people because he was refusing to put in the work to get better and add in his mannerisms and personality and you end up with a person that appears to be lazy and doesn't care much.
Yes, this is what it was.
(01-12-2022, 04:33 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2022, 04:22 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]I don't remember the thing about QB camp and I don't see anything on Google...although it's quite possibly buried somewhere.
It was something to do with working on his windup. I think he basically said it was fine and he didn't need to change anything if I remember correctly. It rubbed a lot of people because he was refusing to put in the work to get better and add in his mannerisms and personality and you end up with a person that appears to be lazy and doesn't care much.
Mannerisms and personality?
I guess I’m not remembering any of this due to the fact I didn’t live in Jacksonville and social media wasn’t a thing.
Regardless of these opinions, if Leftwich helps the Jags get rid of Baalke and he can bring in a veteran defensive coordinator (Fangio, Zimmer) then I think it could certainly work.
(01-12-2022, 04:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2022, 04:27 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]Who? .gif "Laughing")
He's better than Wash
What the hell does that matter? I couldn't have even told you he was a coach.
(01-12-2022, 04:51 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2022, 04:33 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]It was something to do with working on his windup. I think he basically said it was fine and he didn't need to change anything if I remember correctly. It rubbed a lot of people because he was refusing to put in the work to get better and add in his mannerisms and personality and you end up with a person that appears to be lazy and doesn't care much.
Mannerisms and personality?
I guess I’m not remembering any of this due to the fact I didn’t live in Jacksonville and social media wasn’t a thing.
Regardless of these opinions, if Leftwich helps the Jags get rid of Baalke and he can bring in a veteran defensive coordinator (Fangio, Zimmer) then I think it could certainly work.
Oh, I remember it and it's [BLEEP]. One of a thousand things people made up or saw on their own because they didn't like the idea of him taking over for Brunell. I heard some of the most ridiculous [BLEEP] to put him down. He was doomed from the start. And before anybody gets a wild hair and starts accusing me of being a 'Leftwich lover', the guy just didn't have what it takes to be a successful NFL QB. But the other statements stand, nonetheless.
(01-12-2022, 10:25 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Why it's so important to get this coaching hire right.
People here tend to think I'm crazy when I'm always talking about stability.
https://twitter.com/TonyDungy/status/148...92260?s=20
Bortles dealt with the same thing with OCs his first 3/4 years. Jedd Fisch, Greg Olson and Nathaniel Hackett.
Obviously Bortles had some of his own issues, like barely being able to throw a football at times, but the constant turnover definitely doesn't help.
(01-12-2022, 04:51 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2022, 04:33 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]It was something to do with working on his windup. I think he basically said it was fine and he didn't need to change anything if I remember correctly. It rubbed a lot of people because he was refusing to put in the work to get better and add in his mannerisms and personality and you end up with a person that appears to be lazy and doesn't care much.
Mannerisms and personality?
I guess I’m not remembering any of this due to the fact I didn’t live in Jacksonville and social media wasn’t a thing.
Regardless of these opinions, if Leftwich helps the Jags get rid of Baalke and he can bring in a veteran defensive coordinator (Fangio, Zimmer) then I think it could certainly work.
He has a laid back personality and was terrible in interviews, just came off like he didn't care. It was like he was just happy getting paid and didn't care much about winning.
I don't know him so it could just be the way he comes off. He seems to have put in a lot a work in coaching and has the respect of some great players and coaches. As long as they feel he is prepared, I'm fine with hiring him. I would like someone like Caldwell to be on staff to help out Leftwich if he needs it.
It should get rid of Baalke if Leftwich is the coach.
I'm definitely getting behind Leftwich as HC. Being able to bring in Caldwell as Assistant HC/QB Coach would be icing on the cake as well.
Pederson is fine as long as he won't keep Baalke. Hoping for Leftwich.
(01-12-2022, 06:01 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Pederson is fine as long as he won't keep Baalke. Hoping for Leftwich.
I am fine with either coach at this point. Regardless of Baalke.
Bill O’Brien Is a hard no from the entire fan base. I haven’t heard a single person advocating for him.
(01-12-2022, 06:44 PM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]Bill O’Brien Is a hard no from the entire fan base. I haven’t heard a single person advocating for him.
What the texan people on the board would love us to go for BoB. We all have stockholm syndrome and just figure that is what we deserve it seems.
(01-12-2022, 06:07 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2022, 06:01 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Pederson is fine as long as he won't keep Baalke. Hoping for Leftwich.
I am fine with either coach at this point. Regardless of Baalke.
This is where I’m at as well. I’ve come to terms with it expecting Baalke to be retained. Let’s at least bring in a good coach.
(01-12-2022, 03:14 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2022, 03:07 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]I've never understood that...
Part of it stems from when he was here and the team offered to send him to a QB camp, on their dime, to help him improve. He turned it down.
People change, I get it, but I always received the impression from him that he was more for himself than the team. Some will argue it is unfounded, and they’re likely right, but that’s what I remember about his time here.
Adding to that, he never really seemed to try to fix his wind up. I would say he came across more hard-headed than anything, but I could see how you might say lackadaisical. I also didn't like the way he interviewed as a player, but I've listened to him recently and he comes across more thoughtful. He also seems to mumble less, which shouldn't matter, but it does.