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(01-16-2022, 09:05 PM)Sibelius Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-16-2022, 09:04 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]If that play call was on Kellen Moore then I've moved him behind Byron for sure. What a terrible play call.

The pass into the sun?

The run up the middle with 14 seconds left and no timeouts.
(01-16-2022, 09:04 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]If that play call was on Kellen Moore then I've moved him behind Byron for sure. What a terrible play call.

Dumb take. Dak didn’t execute. Went too far and was horrible getting lined back up.
(01-16-2022, 09:08 PM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-16-2022, 09:04 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]If that play call was on Kellen Moore then I've moved him behind Byron for sure. What a terrible play call.

Dumb take. Dak didn’t execute. Went too far and was horrible getting lined back up.

It was an extremely risky call. Even executed perfectly it still would have been extremely close. He was at least 1-2 seconds after game end of snapping since it had to be set.
Look at he entirety of his work. It has been great. They just were not on today and the 49ers were.
(01-16-2022, 09:21 PM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]Look at he entirety of his work. It has been great. They just were not on today and the 49ers were.

I'm not saying Kellen Moore sucks, but I think it was a bad call.

All I said was that it moves him behind Byron for me.
(01-16-2022, 09:22 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-16-2022, 09:21 PM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]Look at he entirety of his work. It has been great. They just were not on today and the 49ers were.

I'm not saying Kellen Moore sucks, but I think it was a bad call.

All I said was that it moves him behind Byron for me.

Byron's offenses seem to always be aggressive, and it's amazing they're still functional with Godwin and Brown gone. Evans coming back was good timing; however, there were a couple games without any of them, and the offense still scored points. How much is Brady?
Judging coaches on one game or worse one play call? Not Smart!

That means Bellicheat sucks because the Bills spanked the pats!

I do not understand people's way of thinking.
(01-16-2022, 09:59 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-16-2022, 09:22 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying Kellen Moore sucks, but I think it was a bad call.

All I said was that it moves him behind Byron for me.

Byron's offenses seem to always be aggressive, and it's amazing they're still functional with Godwin and Brown gone. Evans coming back was good timing; however, there were a couple games without any of them, and the offense still scored points. How much is Brady?

It's Brady buy it takes a coach calling the right plays. If you look how things are different each year, it shows Leftwich is using his players talents instead of forcing an offense.

The fact that he can do that shows he is above a lot of the NFL coordinators. I imagine the current Jags WRs would all of a sudden be running open in space as opposed to 3 of them running into each other.
(01-16-2022, 10:04 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-16-2022, 09:59 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: [ -> ]Byron's offenses seem to always be aggressive, and it's amazing they're still functional with Godwin and Brown gone. Evans coming back was good timing; however, there were a couple games without any of them, and the offense still scored points. How much is Brady?

It's Brady buy it takes a coach calling the right plays. If you look how things are different each year, it shows Leftwich is using his players talents instead of forcing an offense.

The fact that he can do that shows he is above a lot of the NFL coordinators. I imagine the current Jags WRs would all of a sudden be running open in space as opposed to 3 of them running into each other.

He was always a very cerebral quarterback who could sling it. But in the NFL, his windmill windup and statue style kept him from success. I'd love to see Trevor in the Arians offense.
(01-16-2022, 10:04 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Judging coaches on one game or worse one play call?  Not Smart!

That means Bellicheat sucks because the Bills spanked the pats!

I do not understand people's way of thinking.

Again, I'm not saying Kellen Moore is bad. I'm saying that he moves behind Byron for sure on my list.

And I stand by it being a stupid call.

(01-16-2022, 10:04 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-16-2022, 09:59 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: [ -> ]Byron's offenses seem to always be aggressive, and it's amazing they're still functional with Godwin and Brown gone. Evans coming back was good timing; however, there were a couple games without any of them, and the offense still scored points. How much is Brady?

It's Brady buy it takes a coach calling the right plays. If you look how things are different each year, it shows Leftwich is using his players talents instead of forcing an offense.

The fact that he can do that shows he is above a lot of the NFL coordinators. I imagine the current Jags WRs would all of a sudden be running open in space as opposed to 3 of them running into each other.

I'm sure Brady has a lot to do with the success of that offense, but the more you look at it the more you see that Byron just seems to understand the game from an offensive standpoint and does a great job utilizing the strengths of his weapons. Look how much different Fournette looked playing for them this year before he got injured.

My only reservation with Byron is his lack of experience, but at this point I'm willing to ride it out and I think I'm starting to prefer him as the option.
I justed watched a press conference that Byron did. This is my first time hearing him talk (ever). He sounds totally different to me than anyone else I've ever heard. I am not talking his tone or anything like that. He, I don't know he just sounds like he's not exactly a coach speak type of guy. Honest, no nonsense gets into the information, will call out the problem when he sees it. 

I wasn't sure who I wanted before but now, God Byron just screams success to me. I really hope he is our coach and I really do feel like he's going to be great. Watching videos of other players talking about him he seems to be extremely well respected. I know people were concerned about players wanting to come here in FA but I get the sense if Byron is here it will actually attract FAs.
What worried me about cowboys OC is they played a very week schedule this year, and when they did play good teams they struggled offensively. As many have mentioned the weapons they have it’s hard to know how good he is. I just hear Brady and Rodgers a lot more vocal about there support of there OC than I do dak. Cowboys also seek to have as many offensive penalties as we do, and we’re quick to blame coaches for a lot of penalties on our team so have to hold Moore to the same standard.
That said non of us really know what each coach is like as leader and how he commands a room. Caldwell would still be my preference but Hackett and leftwhich are my favourite options if we’re going for a young O’c approach
(01-17-2022, 07:09 AM)Craigukjag Wrote: [ -> ]What worried me about cowboys OC is they played a very week schedule  this year, and when they did play good teams they struggled offensively. As many have mentioned the weapons they have it’s hard to know how good he is. I just hear Brady and Rodgers a lot more vocal about there support of there OC than I do dak. Cowboys also seek to have as many offensive penalties as we do, and we’re quick to blame  coaches for a lot of penalties on our team so have to hold Moore to the same standard.
That said non of us really know what each coach is like as leader and how he commands a room. Caldwell would still be my preference but Hackett and leftwhich are my favourite options if we’re going for a young O’c approach

It's hard to know how good Prescott really is or if this is on the coaches. His stats are good but I see what you see about not being able to beat good teams. 

Don't forget that all OC's except Leftwich will end the season with a loss.
Seems like all the news and speculation has dropped off.
(01-16-2022, 08:28 PM)Sibelius Wrote: [ -> ]Still hoping for an experienced HC for the Jags.

I'm with ya, but if they do go with a coordinator Leftwich is probably the best choice.
(01-17-2022, 09:17 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Seems like all the news and speculation has dropped off.

Media focused on playoffs - but I'm sure the JLCs and Rapaports of the world will wind up the rumor mill again soon.

One thing we know for certain - Leftwich stock is booming.

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(01-17-2022, 09:17 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Seems like all the news and speculation has dropped off.

It has played itself out after the first round of interviews. Once the first team announces its hire, the speculation locomotive will fire up again.
(01-17-2022, 09:36 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-17-2022, 09:17 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Seems like all the news and speculation has dropped off.

It has played itself out after the first round of interviews. Once the first team announces its hire, the speculation locomotive will fire up again.
I would guess Flores to Houston is the first domino to fall.
Right now. I think it's still Leftwich for me at this point if Caldwell and Pederson are out of the running.

Cowboys played flat, sloppy and out of sync yesterday. Not impressed with either candidate there.

Daboll. I think he needs a revisit. Lawrence has the same mold as Allen. Wouldn't mind a carbon copy of Allen in Lawrence here in Jacksonville.

Think we can all agree on that.

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(01-17-2022, 09:39 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Right now. I think it's still Leftwich for me at this point if Caldwell and Pederson are out of the running.

Cowboys played flat, sloppy and out of sync yesterday. Not impressed with either candidate there.

Daboll. I think he needs a revisit. Lawrence has the same mold as Allen. Wouldn't mind a carbon copy of Allen in Lawrence here in Jacksonville.

Think we can all agree on that.

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Yes.
Daboll stock is high as well.

They also have an interesting QB coach there in Dorsey that likely has helped Allen a great deal.
He spent four years coaching Newton in Carolina during his productive years - including the year Cam Newton won the MVP.