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(12-31-2021, 11:46 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Pederson interviewed yesterday. I wonder if we'll hear any word on how it went. Hopefully:

(during interview)

Khan holds up depleted drinking glass with ice inside and quickly rattles it: "Trent, get me a refill, please."
Baalke: "Yes, sir." Takes glass and walks out of room.
Khan to Pederson: "He won't be here much longer."

I don't see that happening. According to Dilla on twitter, Pederson is the one candidate that would actually want to work with Baalke. They actually get along, so hiring Pederson would mean keeping Baalke. I don't want Baalke running our draft.

My vote is for Pederson. I love how he criticized Marrone when Marrone was too chicken to try to drive the offense on the last drive of the AFC championship game. He spared no words later and spoke his mind. And said what we all knew Doug Marrone should have done by not taking his foot off of the gas when he had a chance. This is the type of head coach that we need. One with some intestinal fortitude on offense.

^^ yep.

(12-31-2021, 12:47 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-31-2021, 12:16 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]What do you mean? Parcells and Gibbs are perfect examples when you mention generational gaps and the NFL moving fast or changing. Gibbs went from 80's to early 00's. Parcells took a few 3 - 4 years off inbetween the Giants, Patriots, Jets and Cowboys.

Good coaches adapt or die in the NFL. Caldwell, again, plenty capable. Is he as decorated as those guys I mentioned? No. A lot of guys aren't. But, those are examples nonetheless.

However, look, he had Detroit consistently winning or at least decent looking three years in a row. This was after people thought he was a fluke with the clots because of Manning.

He also had Flacco playing optimally in Baltimore that earned them a title. He can coach. Most importantly. He understands the QB position and how to maximize what he has to work with there.

Listen. If Dungy or Cowher came out of broadcasting and publicly stated they wanted to coach again. Would you shun them or give them a call?

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For Caldwell, he isn't a long term solution so you need to prepare for the next hire. He also would need some good coordinators.

It doesn't happen much but I would look to have Caldwell and Leftwich if they fell in love with Leftwich. Leftwich would be the HC but have Caldwell with some higher title so he can help and tutor Leftwich. That way Leftwich isn't stuck on his own in a brand new role.

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Leftwich is being penicled in already to replace Arians in Tampa when he retires. Which could be after this year or next year possibly. Brady probably goes with him.

McDaniels is probably hanging on for the same opportunity in New England. If age is a concern. Then, why not just go for Kellen Moore? He's 33. No age concerns there.

Still really surprised Joe Lombardi's name has not come up yet. He's done great in L.A with Herbert already. He was with Caldwell in Detroit. Payton in New Orleans. Very good mix of run and pass philosophically on offense.

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I like the attitude that he should be concentrating on his next opponent. 

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/bucs-byro...respectful

I, personally, would not mind him as coach. He's always been considered a film junkie.

Honestly I doubt it will happen though.  I think if they take a young guy it will be Moore.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jagua...m=news_tab

Baalke has also recently been pushing Alabama offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien to ownership as a possible candidate. O'Brien earned accolades as a play-caller under Nick Saban and has previous experience as head coach in Houston. However, the bitter end to his time there, and his history of power struggles and personality clashes, won't likely do much to stem the tide of public sentiment in Jacksonville against the early stages of this hiring process.

(01-02-2022, 10:19 AM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jagua...m=news_tab

Baalke has also recently been pushing Alabama offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien to ownership as a possible candidate. O'Brien earned accolades as a play-caller under Nick Saban and has previous experience as head coach in Houston. However, the bitter end to his time there, and his history of power struggles and personality clashes, won't likely do much to stem the tide of public sentiment in Jacksonville against the early stages of this hiring process.

The same guy who stripped the Texans and no one wanted to play for there?

(01-02-2022, 10:19 AM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jagua...m=news_tab

Baalke has also recently been pushing Alabama offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien to ownership as a possible candidate. O'Brien earned accolades as a play-caller under Nick Saban and has previous experience as head coach in Houston. However, the bitter end to his time there, and his history of power struggles and personality clashes, won't likely do much to stem the tide of public sentiment in Jacksonville against the early stages of this hiring process.

Suggesting 'Bill O'Brien' as head coach should be a fireable offense. 

Judge: "And why did you fire Mr. Baalke, Mr. Khan?"
Khan: "He suggested Bill O'Brien as Head Coach."
Judge: Is this true, Mr. Baalke?
Trent: "Yes. Bill O'brien is..."
Judge: *bangs gavel* I'm already ready to rule. This was a 'for cause' firing. I'm awarding the Jacksonville Jaguars 2 million in mental damages just for suggesting such a thing.

(01-02-2022, 10:19 AM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jagua...m=news_tab

Baalke has also recently been pushing Alabama offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien to ownership as a possible candidate. O'Brien earned accolades as a play-caller under Nick Saban and has previous experience as head coach in Houston. However, the bitter end to his time there, and his history of power struggles and personality clashes, won't likely do much to stem the tide of public sentiment in Jacksonville against the early stages of this hiring process.

From the article:

The presence of 2021 top overall pick Trevor Lawrence certainly is attractive, but the latest Jaguars' coaching search is already off to an unusual start, and generating controversy within the sport.

Another half measure by Khan which will ensure another half [BLEEP] result. The man needs to step away from the process and let someone else run it. Pick up the phone and call Tony Dungy. That would provide a needed and immediate infusion of legitimacy to the GM/HC hiring process.

Jacksonville is only attractive to head coaches if the GM is not a Teflon type guy who is a partner. Not someone that behind the scenes throw 2 coaches under the bus to save his own skin. The good coaches don't want to work with a snake like that.

(01-02-2022, 10:29 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-02-2022, 10:19 AM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jagua...m=news_tab

Baalke has also recently been pushing Alabama offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien to ownership as a possible candidate. O'Brien earned accolades as a play-caller under Nick Saban and has previous experience as head coach in Houston. However, the bitter end to his time there, and his history of power struggles and personality clashes, won't likely do much to stem the tide of public sentiment in Jacksonville against the early stages of this hiring process.

From the article:

The presence of 2021 top overall pick Trevor Lawrence certainly is attractive, but the latest Jaguars' coaching search is already off to an unusual start, and generating controversy within the sport.

Another half measure by Khan which will ensure another half [BLEEP] result. The man needs to step away from the process and let someone else run it. Pick up the phone and call Tony Dungy. That would provide a needed and immediate infusion of legitimacy to the GM/HC hiring process.

Maybe Tony can step in. “Dad, let’s step away from the front office for just a second. I’ll take it from here”

(01-02-2022, 10:19 AM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jagua...m=news_tab

Baalke has also recently been pushing Alabama offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien to ownership as a possible candidate. O'Brien earned accolades as a play-caller under Nick Saban and has previous experience as head coach in Houston. However, the bitter end to his time there, and his history of power struggles and personality clashes, won't likely do much to stem the tide of public sentiment in Jacksonville against the early stages of this hiring process.

Suggesting another college coach after the Meyer debacle suggests that Baalke doesn't need to be fired - he should be committed.

(01-02-2022, 01:21 PM)Sibelius Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-02-2022, 10:19 AM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jagua...m=news_tab

Baalke has also recently been pushing Alabama offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien to ownership as a possible candidate. O'Brien earned accolades as a play-caller under Nick Saban and has previous experience as head coach in Houston. However, the bitter end to his time there, and his history of power struggles and personality clashes, won't likely do much to stem the tide of public sentiment in Jacksonville against the early stages of this hiring process.

Suggesting another college coach after the Meyer debacle suggests that Baalke doesn't need to be fired - he should be committed.

I think of Bill O'Brien as more of an NFL coach, personally.

For what it's worth he'd probably be on a similar level to Marrone, which is clearly better than Meyer, but I'd rather someone like Pedersen.

(01-02-2022, 01:25 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-02-2022, 01:21 PM)Sibelius Wrote: [ -> ]Suggesting another college coach after the Meyer debacle suggests that Baalke doesn't need to be fired - he should be committed.

I think of Bill O'Brien as more of an NFL coach, personally.

For what it's worth he'd probably be on a similar level to Marrone, which is clearly better than Meyer, but I'd rather someone like Pedersen.

Perhaps. But to me it's a perception thing. Get someone in the NFL with a record with success.

(01-02-2022, 01:32 PM)Sibelius Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-02-2022, 01:25 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]I think of Bill O'Brien as more of an NFL coach, personally.

For what it's worth he'd probably be on a similar level to Marrone, which is clearly better than Meyer, but I'd rather someone like Pedersen.

Perhaps. But to me it's a perception thing. Get someone in the NFL with a record with success.

He has a winning regular season record as the Houston coach and four playoffs appearances. Not that I want the guy, but like I said, I think he's more an NFL guy than a college guy.

I have decided I want Moore or Eberflus.

(01-02-2022, 01:38 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I have decided I want Moore or Eberflus.

I'm in Dallas so I get to see Moore's work every week. He does a lot of good stuff with the Cowboys. He's just so young! LOL I started with DaBoll as my top choice but I think I've moved to Pederson.

(01-02-2022, 01:38 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I have decided I want Moore or Eberflus.

I used to want Caldwell or Pederson but after seeing your post, I too want Moore or Eberflus.

(01-02-2022, 01:42 PM)Sibelius Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-02-2022, 01:38 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I have decided I want Moore or Eberflus.

I'm in Dallas so I get to see Moore's work every week. He does a lot of good stuff with the Cowboys. He's just so young! LOL I started with DaBoll as my top choice but I think I've moved to Pederson.

Daboll and McDaniels might have been my top 2 options if we were interviewing them.

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(01-02-2022, 01:55 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-02-2022, 01:38 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I have decided I want Moore or Eberflus.

I used to want Caldwell or Pederson but after seeing your post, I too want Moore or Eberflus.

Pederson was near the top of my list until people started saying he would likely keep Baalke around.

(01-02-2022, 01:57 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-02-2022, 01:42 PM)Sibelius Wrote: [ -> ]I'm in Dallas so I get to see Moore's work every week. He does a lot of good stuff with the Cowboys. He's just so young! LOL I started with DaBoll as my top choice but I think I've moved to Pederson.

Daboll and McDaniels might have been my top 2 options if we were interviewing them.

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(01-02-2022, 01:55 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]I used to want Caldwell or Pederson but after seeing your post, I too want Moore or Eberflus.

Pederson was near the top of my list until people started saying he would likely keep Baalke around.

This is so maddening. Baalke gets to pick out another volatile personality, like Bill O’Brien, whom he’ll later clash with.